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GPU drivers are still notoriously bad. I also havent had that great of a luck with Ryzen Master and uninstalled it within 2 hours and did all my tweaks in bios afterwards. Other than that my Ryzen experience have been 3/4 of the way smooth (considering USB dropout issues, audio crackling issues).

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This entire thread after only 2 posts is full of misinformation. AMD's GPU drivers are as good as Nvidia's (with a much better interface, I might add). And their CPUs have been great for years now. FULL SYSTEM stability is a whole different matter, typically coming down to poor motherboard hardware/software implementations - a problem that affects both CPU vendors.

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2 minutes ago, aDoomGuy said:

A bit rude, innit? 😂

Bit rewd of y'h innit bruv?

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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I've just came back to AMD CPUs - from a 7700k to R5 5600x - no problems at all.

 

Still Nvidia for GPU

 

AMD GPU Drivers are a lot better now.

 

just go for whatever is best for you

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I can't speak for AMD GPUs, but I've never had any meaningful issues with any of my Ryzen systems (1700 and 3600 on X370, and 5600X on X570), except for problems that were obviously my own fault (I dropped my 3600 and bent a pin, leading to memory stability issues, hence needing to buy the 5600X - which has been 100% stable since I installed it). 

 

I had way more crashing and stability issues with my last pre-Ryzen Intel system, running an i5-3470. So I don't buy into this idea that AMD CPUs are inherently more crash-prone.

 

 

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42 minutes ago, Wictorian said:

I know AMD is infamous for crashes.

 

No, they're not.

 

 

42 minutes ago, Wictorian said:

But I wonder if it is only for CPUs or can AMD GPUs also cause crashes. Or have they fixed this?

 

To the extent AMD is "notorious" for anything, more people have problems with their GPU's than their CPU's. 

Corps aren't your friends. "Bottleneck calculators" are BS. Only suckers buy based on brand. It's your PC, do what makes you happy.  If your build meets your needs, you don't need anyone else to "rate" it for you. And talking about being part of a "master race" is cringe. Watch this space for further truths people need to hear.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Wictorian said:

I know AMD is infamous for crashes. But I wonder if it is only for CPUs or can AMD GPUs also cause crashes. Or have they fixed this?

In my case I have experienced 0 problems with my 3600 that is overclocked and undervolted. 

 

However... my 5700 (XT Bios) gives me headaches sometimes. Nothing to be worried but, atleast once or twice every two months I have to restart my PC because the GPU decides to stop giving image to the monitor. 

 

But well, once every two months and solved with a restart and in change I get:

 

Easy OC/UV options in Radeon Software

AMD Link

And a GPU that performs as well as the competition but for 120€ less hahaha

 

But If you want to stay trouble-free dont go Radeon

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16 minutes ago, LordWk said:

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However... my 5700 (XT Bios) gives me headaches sometimes. Nothing to be worried but, atleast once or twice every two months I have to restart my PC because the GPU decides to stop giving image to the monitor.
[...]

But If you want to stay trouble-free dont go Radeon

I appreciate your candor, but this is the kind of disingenuous information that spreads FUD. A card that has been custom flashed to run outside of its intended specs cannot be blamed on the manufacturer.

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4 minutes ago, LordWk said:

In my case I have experienced 0 problems with my 3600 that is overclocked and undervolted. 

 

However... my 5700 (XT Bios) gives me headaches sometimes. Nothing to be worried but, atleast once or twice every two months I have to restart my PC because the GPU decides to stop giving image to the monitor. 

 

But well, once every two months and solved with a restart and in change I get:

 

Easy OC/UV options in Radeon Software

AMD Link

And a GPU that performs as well as the competition but for 120€ less hahaha

 

But If you want to stay trouble-free dont go Radeon

Yeah thanks. 

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I've had a 3700X and a 5900X, as well as a 5600 XT GPU. Not one issue from any of them. I've also taken care to pair them with other good components, like RAM, mobos, and PSUs, though.

 

I think the largest majority of the issues people complain about are either form the first gen Ryzen days, when there was serious problems (new architecture is always that way, though) or from pairing it with cheap ass mobos and PSUs. Before this gen, Ryzen was the budget option, and far too many people built extremely low budget systems with AMD CPUs. That's not necessarily a problem in an of itself. If you can get what you need for cheap, great. But, when you connect an AMD chip to a $25 no name PSU and have issues, you can't blame that on AMD.

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I've had better luck with AMDs APUs on mobile on linux and once I switched it was rock solid (for 3000 APUs they gave drivers to OEMs which means HP takes way to long and windows updates constantly broke it)

my RX580 has been great for the last 3-4 years on windows, its probably due for a full clean and new thermal pads

2700x in the same build thats 2 years old now runs great, 0 issues from that

2400G runs great in windows 10 with my parents desktop, that thing never gets turned off 0 issues

HD5750 and Fury have ran great a few years back when I last used them 0 issues there.

 

You can't generalize a brand like that.

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7 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

I've had a 3700X and a 5900X, as well as a 5600 XT GPU. Not one issue from any of them. I've also taken care to pair them with other good components, like RAM, mobos, and PSUs, though.

 

I think the largest majority of the issues people complain about are either form the first gen Ryzen days, when there was serious problems (new architecture is always that way, though) or from pairing it with cheap ass mobos and PSUs. Before this gen, Ryzen was the budget option, and far too many people built extremely low budget systems with AMD CPUs. That's not necessarily a problem in an of itself. If you can get what you need for cheap, great. But, when you connect an AMD chip to a $25 no name PSU and have issues, you can't blame that on AMD.

 

With Zen 1 I think a lot of the issues were memory compatibility related. With my 1700 I made sure to buy sticks that were on the QVL and I only went for DDR4-2933 CL15, and within those parameters I had no issues whatsoever. That said, 1st gen Ryzen was definitely too sensitive to what sort of memory in particular it was running.

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AMD GPU's for the most part the drivers aren't really a issue anymore , Nvidia often introduces new features sooner however. 

 

Most problems crop up from overclocking on both AMD AND NVIDIA atm.

 

And for the most part tweaking/OCing in general CPU and GPU has become more problematic than it's often worth for the minimum gains and you run into plenty of stability issues now a days when doing so on both manufactures.

 

That said cpu's and gpu's now are typically turboing (self oc'ing) quite well out of box leaving users with hardly any gains that can be made anyways. 

 

Intel CPU's are still basically similar platform as they were on skylake with some improvements. 

 

If anything id say AMD has made the most improvements on CPU's in the last few generations i haven't seen to many issues with anything we have sold in the 2xxx 3xxx or 5xxx series CPU's. 

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8 minutes ago, Satan_Prometheus said:

 

With Zen 1 I think a lot of the issues were memory compatibility related. With my 1700 I made sure to buy sticks that were on the QVL and I only went for DDR4-2933 CL15, and within those parameters I had no issues whatsoever. That said, 1st gen Ryzen was definitely too sensitive to what sort of memory in particular it was running.

this is true , the Zen1 and even the 2xxx series were picky with memory but this was a known thing and their were plenty of Memory with AMD stamped testing on them to chose from.   I put that kind of issue in the P.e.B.C.a.K

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4 hours ago, aDoomGuy said:

Good question. I think I put that prior to building this rig. Any idea for an update to my location?

Lol apparently the guy on top of this comment had the idea, or stole it from me. But was not smart enough to also set the location to your mom. 
 

Also is your location actually that or are you asking for a suggestion still?

 

I think it might be fun to set something about the uncertainity principle.

 

Or Sweden jokes maybe because Swedes do Norwagian jokes and I think Norwegians do Sweden jokes. 
 

Or "On your screen"

 

Or some Russian word or something but not sure if it is fun

 

Or somewhere you go regularly. Do you know these jokes? Police : What were you doing at the time of murder? Me : I was [insert someting like playing games]. Officer : How do you know the time of murder? Me : I always play games.

 

"Statistically probably Russia"?

 

You know this meme ? Commander : I couldn't see you at camouflage practice. Me : Thank you sir. Idk how but maybe something like that. Or this is a too stupid idea.


"On Your Lawn"?


"Gazing at you from the Abbys"? (Nietzsche reference but kinda stupid.)

 

A balkan joke : So Bulgaria used to be huge and there is a lot of memes about this so if you were in the Balkans you could basically write "Ancient Bulgaria" 

Or if you were in Bulgaria you could write (when you unlock it as a playabke character. In fact I will write it to my location now.)

 

Lol I tried too hard. I think the best thing to just leave it like that and write something funny that comes to your mind spontaneously or if someone makes a really good suggestion. Or it might just be a joke , doesn't have to be formatted as a location.

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