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Wictorian

I know AMD is infamous for crashes. But I wonder if it is only for CPUs or can AMD GPUs also cause crashes. Or have they fixed this?

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GPU drivers are still notoriously bad. I also havent had that great of a luck with Ryzen Master and uninstalled it within 2 hours and did all my tweaks in bios afterwards. Other than that my Ryzen experience have been 3/4 of the way smooth (considering USB dropout issues, audio crackling issues).

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This entire thread after only 2 posts is full of misinformation. AMD's GPU drivers are as good as Nvidia's (with a much better interface, I might add). And their CPUs have been great for years now. FULL SYSTEM stability is a whole different matter, typically coming down to poor motherboard hardware/software implementations - a problem that affects both CPU vendors.

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2 minutes ago, aDoomGuy said:

Hmmm my Ryzen 3600x never crashes. I must be very fortunate.

Ironic? What's the point of your location then?

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For a while I was having issues and due to the error / crash messages I thought it was my AMD video card. Found out it was bad ram. Once that was resolved I've had no issues and runs very stable with an AMD CPU and GPU.

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Can't speak for pre-Ryzen CPU's but I've never had any or heard any problems from friends other than the weird USB problem with 5000 series. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Wictorian said:

Ironic? What's the point of your location then?

Good question. I think I put that prior to building this rig. Any idea for an update to my location?

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Just now, aDoomGuy said:

Good question. I think I put that prior to building this rig. Any idea for an update to my location?

"Your mom."?

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2 minutes ago, Wictorian said:

"Your mom."?

A bit rude, innit? 😂

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I've just came back to AMD CPUs - from a 7700k to R5 5600x - no problems at all.

 

Still Nvidia for GPU

 

AMD GPU Drivers are a lot better now.

 

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I can't speak for AMD GPUs, but I've never had any meaningful issues with any of my Ryzen systems (1700 and 3600 on X370, and 5600X on X570), except for problems that were obviously my own fault (I dropped my 3600 and bent a pin, leading to memory stability issues, hence needing to buy the 5600X - which has been 100% stable since I installed it). 

 

I had way more crashing and stability issues with my last pre-Ryzen Intel system, running an i5-3470. So I don't buy into this idea that AMD CPUs are inherently more crash-prone.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, aDoomGuy said:

A bit rude, innit? 😂

Or you can just put Britain.

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42 minutes ago, Wictorian said:

I know AMD is infamous for crashes.

 

No, they're not.

 

 

42 minutes ago, Wictorian said:

But I wonder if it is only for CPUs or can AMD GPUs also cause crashes. Or have they fixed this?

 

To the extent AMD is "notorious" for anything, more people have problems with their GPU's than their CPU's. 

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9 minutes ago, Mel0nMan said:

Bit rewd of y'h innit bruv?

🤣

 

7 minutes ago, Wictorian said:

Or you can just put Britain.

*Norway

 

But that would be boring..

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1 hour ago, Wictorian said:

I know AMD is infamous for crashes. But I wonder if it is only for CPUs or can AMD GPUs also cause crashes. Or have they fixed this?

In my case I have experienced 0 problems with my 3600 that is overclocked and undervolted. 

 

However... my 5700 (XT Bios) gives me headaches sometimes. Nothing to be worried but, atleast once or twice every two months I have to restart my PC because the GPU decides to stop giving image to the monitor. 

 

But well, once every two months and solved with a restart and in change I get:

 

Easy OC/UV options in Radeon Software

AMD Link

And a GPU that performs as well as the competition but for 120€ less hahaha

 

But If you want to stay trouble-free dont go Radeon

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16 minutes ago, LordWk said:

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However... my 5700 (XT Bios) gives me headaches sometimes. Nothing to be worried but, atleast once or twice every two months I have to restart my PC because the GPU decides to stop giving image to the monitor.
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But If you want to stay trouble-free dont go Radeon

I appreciate your candor, but this is the kind of disingenuous information that spreads FUD. A card that has been custom flashed to run outside of its intended specs cannot be blamed on the manufacturer.

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4 minutes ago, LordWk said:

In my case I have experienced 0 problems with my 3600 that is overclocked and undervolted. 

 

However... my 5700 (XT Bios) gives me headaches sometimes. Nothing to be worried but, atleast once or twice every two months I have to restart my PC because the GPU decides to stop giving image to the monitor. 

 

But well, once every two months and solved with a restart and in change I get:

 

Easy OC/UV options in Radeon Software

AMD Link

And a GPU that performs as well as the competition but for 120€ less hahaha

 

But If you want to stay trouble-free dont go Radeon

Yeah thanks. 

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I've had a 3700X and a 5900X, as well as a 5600 XT GPU. Not one issue from any of them. I've also taken care to pair them with other good components, like RAM, mobos, and PSUs, though.

 

I think the largest majority of the issues people complain about are either form the first gen Ryzen days, when there was serious problems (new architecture is always that way, though) or from pairing it with cheap ass mobos and PSUs. Before this gen, Ryzen was the budget option, and far too many people built extremely low budget systems with AMD CPUs. That's not necessarily a problem in an of itself. If you can get what you need for cheap, great. But, when you connect an AMD chip to a $25 no name PSU and have issues, you can't blame that on AMD.

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I've had better luck with AMDs APUs on mobile on linux and once I switched it was rock solid (for 3000 APUs they gave drivers to OEMs which means HP takes way to long and windows updates constantly broke it)

my RX580 has been great for the last 3-4 years on windows, its probably due for a full clean and new thermal pads

2700x in the same build thats 2 years old now runs great, 0 issues from that

2400G runs great in windows 10 with my parents desktop, that thing never gets turned off 0 issues

HD5750 and Fury have ran great a few years back when I last used them 0 issues there.

 

You can't generalize a brand like that.

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7 minutes ago, Chris Pratt said:

I've had a 3700X and a 5900X, as well as a 5600 XT GPU. Not one issue from any of them. I've also taken care to pair them with other good components, like RAM, mobos, and PSUs, though.

 

I think the largest majority of the issues people complain about are either form the first gen Ryzen days, when there was serious problems (new architecture is always that way, though) or from pairing it with cheap ass mobos and PSUs. Before this gen, Ryzen was the budget option, and far too many people built extremely low budget systems with AMD CPUs. That's not necessarily a problem in an of itself. If you can get what you need for cheap, great. But, when you connect an AMD chip to a $25 no name PSU and have issues, you can't blame that on AMD.

 

With Zen 1 I think a lot of the issues were memory compatibility related. With my 1700 I made sure to buy sticks that were on the QVL and I only went for DDR4-2933 CL15, and within those parameters I had no issues whatsoever. That said, 1st gen Ryzen was definitely too sensitive to what sort of memory in particular it was running.

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AMD GPU's for the most part the drivers aren't really a issue anymore , Nvidia often introduces new features sooner however. 

 

Most problems crop up from overclocking on both AMD AND NVIDIA atm.

 

And for the most part tweaking/OCing in general CPU and GPU has become more problematic than it's often worth for the minimum gains and you run into plenty of stability issues now a days when doing so on both manufactures.

 

That said cpu's and gpu's now are typically turboing (self oc'ing) quite well out of box leaving users with hardly any gains that can be made anyways. 

 

Intel CPU's are still basically similar platform as they were on skylake with some improvements. 

 

If anything id say AMD has made the most improvements on CPU's in the last few generations i haven't seen to many issues with anything we have sold in the 2xxx 3xxx or 5xxx series CPU's. 

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8 minutes ago, Satan_Prometheus said:

 

With Zen 1 I think a lot of the issues were memory compatibility related. With my 1700 I made sure to buy sticks that were on the QVL and I only went for DDR4-2933 CL15, and within those parameters I had no issues whatsoever. That said, 1st gen Ryzen was definitely too sensitive to what sort of memory in particular it was running.

this is true , the Zen1 and even the 2xxx series were picky with memory but this was a known thing and their were plenty of Memory with AMD stamped testing on them to chose from.   I put that kind of issue in the P.e.B.C.a.K

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4 hours ago, aDoomGuy said:

Good question. I think I put that prior to building this rig. Any idea for an update to my location?

Lol apparently the guy on top of this comment had the idea, or stole it from me. But was not smart enough to also set the location to your mom. 
 

Also is your location actually that or are you asking for a suggestion still?

 

I think it might be fun to set something about the uncertainity principle.

 

Or Sweden jokes maybe because Swedes do Norwagian jokes and I think Norwegians do Sweden jokes. 
 

Or "On your screen"

 

Or some Russian word or something but not sure if it is fun

 

Or somewhere you go regularly. Do you know these jokes? Police : What were you doing at the time of murder? Me : I was [insert someting like playing games]. Officer : How do you know the time of murder? Me : I always play games.

 

"Statistically probably Russia"?

 

You know this meme ? Commander : I couldn't see you at camouflage practice. Me : Thank you sir. Idk how but maybe something like that. Or this is a too stupid idea.


"On Your Lawn"?


"Gazing at you from the Abbys"? (Nietzsche reference but kinda stupid.)

 

A balkan joke : So Bulgaria used to be huge and there is a lot of memes about this so if you were in the Balkans you could basically write "Ancient Bulgaria" 

Or if you were in Bulgaria you could write (when you unlock it as a playabke character. In fact I will write it to my location now.)

 

Lol I tried too hard. I think the best thing to just leave it like that and write something funny that comes to your mind spontaneously or if someone makes a really good suggestion. Or it might just be a joke , doesn't have to be formatted as a location.

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