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Gustavo Dutra
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I've got a rtx card my 2070 companion and its not enough to run all games on ultra, but with dlss i might be able to. I say that because i've tried metro exodus enhanced edition and apparently dlss didnt help.

I think because i didnt use it correctly that time. Now that red dead 2 dlss has been released. I do not want to commit such mistake again.

So how do i use it ? I stick to my main resolution and just apply it on quality mode or balanced or i go a resolution below mine, and set dlss to quality ?

 

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Stay on Native res and select DLSS on or a Quality mode that you prefer.

 

It isnt in the Nvidia control panel, it's in your games..that support DLSS and have the updates to the version needed.

Weird when you select it nothing happens..

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You keep the resolution as what's native for your monitor. DLSS drops the resolution itself, depending on the quality settings, and then upscales it back to that. How well it works is very dependent on the implementation in the specific game, though. Some do better than others. Not every DLSS supporting game uses the same version of DLSS either. The more recent versions are obviously better than the older versions. TechPowerUp recently posted a trick where you can actually drop the DLL for the newest version of DLSS into any game that at least supports DLSS 2.0 and it seems to just upgrade it without issue. 

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4 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

Stay on Native res and select DLSS on or a Quality mode that you prefer.

 

It isnt in the Nvidia control panel, it's in your games..that support DLSS and have the updates to the version needed.

Weird when you select it nothing happens..

What CPU/Ram specs do you have?

Im on 32gb ram 3600mhz/ ryzen 7 5800x. I found it weird i have got like 50 to 30 fps on metro with dlss on quality, and heard people with same gpu having crazy 80 fps.

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Do you have Raytracing enabled as well? 

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8 minutes ago, Beyond_The_Berm said:

Do you have Raytracing enabled as well? 

Yes

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1 minute ago, Gustavo Dutra said:

Yes

Depending on DLSS setting, resolution, and Raytracing setting, you may see a net 0 for gains in some games.  I have no experience with Metro enhanced so I cannot speak specifics here.  I would personally dumb down the Raytracing a bit to gain those frames back if possible.

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28 minutes ago, Beyond_The_Berm said:

Depending on DLSS setting, resolution, and Raytracing setting, you may see a net 0 for gains in some games.  I have no experience with Metro enhanced so I cannot speak specifics here.  I would personally dumb down the Raytracing a bit to gain those frames back if possible.

Good thing red dead 2 has 0 raytracing. Will test on it. Thanks

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Some implementations are better than others. It depends on the games specifically. Some need it with Ray Tracing on to even give playable performance. And most games simply just don't have DLSS.

 

As far as Ray Tracing, the only aspects of it that I've found compelling enough to enable are reflections. Lighting has some merit, but I'm not sensitive enough to it to warrant having it on. Ray Traced shadows are a huge resource hog that doesn't really seem to improve much for me and is not commensurate with the performance hit.

 

Some games will use any combination of these Ray Traced features to greater or less effect. Not all of them let you choose specifically, though.

 

As of now the only games I've actually enjoyed with Ray Tracing enabled have been Cyberpunk 2077 and Control. Doom Eternal is just too fast paced to matter, but it is optimized well.

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3 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

Some implementations are better than others. It depends on the games specifically. Some need it with Ray Tracing on to even give playable performance. And most games simply just don't have DLSS.

 

As far as Ray Tracing, the only aspects of it that I've found compelling enough to enable are reflections. Lighting has some merit, but I'm not sensitive enough to it to warrant having it on. Ray Traced shadows are a huge resource hog that doesn't really seem to improve much for me and is not commensurate with the performance hit.

 

Some games will use any combination of these Ray Traced features to greater or less effect. Not all of them let you choose specifically, though.

 

As of now the only games I've actually enjoyed with Ray Tracing enabled have been Cyberpunk 2077 and Control. Doom Eternal is just too fast paced to matter, but it is optimized well.

Just tested and its worse than metro. With any mode i get 33 fps. And without i get 27. Idk if my pc is different or just out of luck. But dlss doesnt give me more fps.

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28 minutes ago, Gustavo Dutra said:

Just tested and its worse than metro. With any mode i get 33 fps. And without i get 27. Idk if my pc is different or just out of luck. But dlss doesnt give me more fps.

Metro Exodus original release uses DLSS 1.0 which pretty much sucked. Although you seem to still be getting an uplift, if small.

Metro Exodus Enhanced edition has DLSS 2.0 which is far superior.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Metro Exodus original release uses DLSS 1.0 which pretty much sucked. Although you seem to still be getting an uplift, if small.

Metro Exodus Enhanced edition has DLSS 2.0 which is far superior.

Still man. Having this increased amount is a joke.

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7 minutes ago, Gustavo Dutra said:

Still man. Having this increased amount is a joke.

Have you made sure to install your correct drivers? Did you upgrade to the 2070 from something else? If so, did you use DDU to remove old drivers?  What resolution are you playing at?

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Just now, Mister Woof said:

Have you made sure to install your correct drivers? Did you upgrade to the 2070 from something else? If so, did you use DDU to remove old drivers?  What resolution are you playing at?

Im using geforce experience to update my drivers. I currently have the most up to date one.
Has been years when i got this 2070 from my gtx 1080, dont remember if i used DDU..
Im on a ultrawide 3440x1440p. I know, pretty overpowered for a 2070...

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54 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Have you made sure to install your correct drivers? Did you upgrade to the 2070 from something else? If so, did you use DDU to remove old drivers?  What resolution are you playing at?

How tf my machine can't make something like this ?????

 

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Give DDU a shot and make sure to install your motherboard drivers, and set your windows power plan to performance

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Also, what are your CPu and GPU temps during play

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5 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

Also, what are your CPu and GPU temps during play

Temps are normal. 50 gpu and 60 cpu.

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5 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

Give DDU a shot and make sure to install your motherboard drivers, and set your windows power plan to performance

Did both, not motherboard drivers. Here the power cables are not that stable for a motherboard drive update.

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3 minutes ago, Gustavo Dutra said:

Also. Some more people talking bout the same thing. https://steamcommunity.com/app/1174180/discussions/0/3049483938192675575/

Could be just that title sucks. Do you have CP2077?

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15 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Could be just that title sucks. Do you have CP2077?

No..

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Just now, Gustavo Dutra said:

No..

Could perhaps be a Ryzen thing. I've seen a lot of reports of games just running like shit for no apparent reason and one of the recurring themes is Ryzen CPUs.

 

This is for COD Warzone mostly, though.

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1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

Could perhaps be a Ryzen thing. I've seen a lot of reports of games just running like shit for no apparent reason and one of the recurring themes is Ryzen CPUs.

 

This is for COD Warzone mostly, though.

Yes i searched for that too. Maybe who knows...

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