Is FSP fsp400-60hcn safe to use?

[Filingo]

I need it to run a B450m + Ryzen 2200g. No GPU or anything else

thanks

[Freakwise]

I never heard of that model, i do know the company just not that specific model

If you really on the budget and just using apu if available go with something like aero cool lux or something down below

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1st Player | Black Widow - DK 5.0 / 6.0
• Abko / Suitmaster | Mighty
• Aerocool | Aero White - Cyclon - KCAS (M) Bronze (<=800W,1000W) - Lux RGB - Strike-X <=600W - VX (Plus) (RGB)
• Andyson | M5+ 450W
• Antec | Ares AP - Atom - Basiq 80 Plus / VP Plus / VP-P (Plus) / VP-PC - Earthwatts [EA] Gold Pro Chinese versions / Platinum / 80+ / (D) Green - Neo Eco Classic NE-C (X50W/X20W) / Modular NE-M / NE-M v2 - NX
• Apexgaming | AI - AG - AN - AJ - AX - STG
• Aresgame | AGV
• Argus | APS - RGB
• be quiet! | Pure Power L8 / L9 / 10 <=350W / 11 <=350W - Straight Power E8 / E9 - SFX Power / Power 2 - System Power 7 / 8
• CWT / Channel Well Technology | GPK-S / GPT-S
• Chieftec | Photon Bronze CTG-C-RGB - A-80 - Task TPS-S - Force CPS-S - Neutron <=600W BLC-S - APB-8B - APS-C <=650W - APS-CB <=650W - APS-S - APS-SB - GPA-S8 - GPB-S - GPC-S - GPE-S - GPS-A8 - ELP-S - SFX-BS - PSF-B
• Cooler Master | GX 2010 [RS-ACAA-D3 ] - GXII - MWE V1 Bronze [MPW] / V1 White [MPX] <=550W - Masterwatt Lite - Silent Pro M2 <=620W
• Corsair | Builder CX(-M) 2012 <=600W [green-label] - CV <=550W - VS 2017 [gray-label] / 2020 [black-label]
• Cougar | A - CMX v1/v2 - STE - STX - VTC - VTE - VTX - XTC
• Deepcool | DA / DA-M / DA-N 700W - DN
• Delta | GPS-HB A Bronze
• EVGA | BT - B <=600W - BV - Supernova G5 1000w <2020 / GS 550/650W [3] / NEX-B / PB / NEX-G <=750W / G(1) <=750W / PG <=750W - W3
• Enermax | Cyberbron - NaXn 82+ - MaxPro / MaxPro II
• FSP / Fortron / Quanhan | Aurum 92+ / CM / Gold / S- Dagger SDA - Raider - HD - Hexa 80+ - HEXA+ (II) - Hyper / S / M / K - Hammer - Hydro / K - PNR - PNR-i - PNR Pro - 60GHS / 60GHS(85)
• Fractal Design | Integra R2 / SFX
• Gamdias | Astrape M1 White
• Gamemax / Gamepower | GP - GM
• Gigabyte | BH - PB500 - PW
• Great Wall / Hunters | Gaming G-series Bronze - BH - Lightning
• Green | ECO / ECO rev 3.1
• High Power | Astro GD [HPA] / PT [HPA] 700W - Element Smart EP-S - Simplicity ST HPG-T12S
• Hiper | HPB-SM
• Huntkey | MVP Bronze
• Hydance | HY-CT
• In Win | A
• Kolink | Core - SFX
• LC Power | GP3 Silver - Super Silent - Silent Giant GP3 Bronze
• LDLC / Fox Spirit | EC - BG - FP
• Micronics | Caslon II - Compact SFX Bronze <=450W - Classic II 80+ - Zero Plus
• Montech | Beta
• NZXT | HALE82 V2 / HALE82-N / HALE90 V2S
• OCZ / PC Power & Cooling | Silencer MK III <=600W - ModXStream Pro
• Powerspec | PS-BF - PS BGM <=650w
• Raidmax | Thunder V2 RX-AP / RGB RX-AP-R - Cobra AC-B / AF-B - Vortex Bronze / White
• Rosewill | Arc <=650W - Arc M - Hive S <=650W - Glacier <=700W - TFX Bronze - TFX Gold
• Seasonic | SS-ET
• Sentey | Thillium X [TXP-HM] - Metal Blade [MBP-HS/MBP-HM] <=850W
• Segotep | BP
• Sharkoon | WPC Bronze
• Silverstone | Strider Gold Evolution [ST-G] - Strider Essential ET-B / F-ES / F-ES230 / F-ESB / F-ESG - Strider Titanium =>1100W / Plus F-PB - SX-LPT
• Skydigital | Power Station 5 80+ White
• Superflower | Bronze King - Bronze FX - Mega
• Tacens | Radix VII
• Thermaltake | Smart 80+ / SE / BM1 / BX1 (RGB) / DPS G Bronze X00W / 80+ RGB / M <=650W / SP-P (X30W/650W) / German series Bronze (Pro RGB) - TR2 Bronze / S X50W / 80+ White / RX 80+ White / RX Bronze <=750W - Toughpower DPS G Titanium 1500W - Litepower (RGB)
• Xigmatek | Centauro S - Cerberus (III) S450 - Spectrum - Tauro <=600W - X-Power I / II / III - Z-Power
• Xilence | Gaming - Performance C / A
• Zalman | GLX - GS - GT - GV - GVM <=700W - LE - LE II - LX - LXII

Courtesy of ltt psu tier list which you can check right here

 

Or  if the budget allows you can go a C tier psu 

[Gorilla Warfare]

Not the greatest in terms of quality , but it can run your current needs.

[Filingo]

20 minutes ago, Gorilla Warfare said:

Not the greatest in terms of quality , but it can run your current needs.

Ah I thought so as well until I realized the b450 requires 8pin and not 4pin.. time for a new PSU

 

 

  

28 minutes ago, Freakwise said:

I never heard of that model, i do know the company just not that specific model

If you really on the budget and just using apu if available go with something like aero cool lux or something down below

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1st Player | Black Widow - DK 5.0 / 6.0
• Abko / Suitmaster | Mighty
• Aerocool | Aero White - Cyclon - KCAS (M) Bronze (<=800W,1000W) - Lux RGB - Strike-X <=600W - VX (Plus) (RGB)
• Andyson | M5+ 450W
• Antec | Ares AP - Atom - Basiq 80 Plus / VP Plus / VP-P (Plus) / VP-PC - Earthwatts [EA] Gold Pro Chinese versions / Platinum / 80+ / (D) Green - Neo Eco Classic NE-C (X50W/X20W) / Modular NE-M / NE-M v2 - NX
• Apexgaming | AI - AG - AN - AJ - AX - STG
• Aresgame | AGV
• Argus | APS - RGB
• be quiet! | Pure Power L8 / L9 / 10 <=350W / 11 <=350W - Straight Power E8 / E9 - SFX Power / Power 2 - System Power 7 / 8
• CWT / Channel Well Technology | GPK-S / GPT-S
• Chieftec | Photon Bronze CTG-C-RGB - A-80 - Task TPS-S - Force CPS-S - Neutron <=600W BLC-S - APB-8B - APS-C <=650W - APS-CB <=650W - APS-S - APS-SB - GPA-S8 - GPB-S - GPC-S - GPE-S - GPS-A8 - ELP-S - SFX-BS - PSF-B
• Cooler Master | GX 2010 [RS-ACAA-D3 ] - GXII - MWE V1 Bronze [MPW] / V1 White [MPX] <=550W - Masterwatt Lite - Silent Pro M2 <=620W
• Corsair | Builder CX(-M) 2012 <=600W [green-label] - CV <=550W - VS 2017 [gray-label] / 2020 [black-label]
• Cougar | A - CMX v1/v2 - STE - STX - VTC - VTE - VTX - XTC
• Deepcool | DA / DA-M / DA-N 700W - DN
• Delta | GPS-HB A Bronze
• EVGA | BT - B <=600W - BV - Supernova G5 1000w <2020 / GS 550/650W [3] / NEX-B / PB / NEX-G <=750W / G(1) <=750W / PG <=750W - W3
• Enermax | Cyberbron - NaXn 82+ - MaxPro / MaxPro II
• FSP / Fortron / Quanhan | Aurum 92+ / CM / Gold / S- Dagger SDA - Raider - HD - Hexa 80+ - HEXA+ (II) - Hyper / S / M / K - Hammer - Hydro / K - PNR - PNR-i - PNR Pro - 60GHS / 60GHS(85)
• Fractal Design | Integra R2 / SFX
• Gamdias | Astrape M1 White
• Gamemax / Gamepower | GP - GM
• Gigabyte | BH - PB500 - PW
• Great Wall / Hunters | Gaming G-series Bronze - BH - Lightning
• Green | ECO / ECO rev 3.1
• High Power | Astro GD [HPA] / PT [HPA] 700W - Element Smart EP-S - Simplicity ST HPG-T12S
• Hiper | HPB-SM
• Huntkey | MVP Bronze
• Hydance | HY-CT
• In Win | A
• Kolink | Core - SFX
• LC Power | GP3 Silver - Super Silent - Silent Giant GP3 Bronze
• LDLC / Fox Spirit | EC - BG - FP
• Micronics | Caslon II - Compact SFX Bronze <=450W - Classic II 80+ - Zero Plus
• Montech | Beta
• NZXT | HALE82 V2 / HALE82-N / HALE90 V2S
• OCZ / PC Power & Cooling | Silencer MK III <=600W - ModXStream Pro
• Powerspec | PS-BF - PS BGM <=650w
• Raidmax | Thunder V2 RX-AP / RGB RX-AP-R - Cobra AC-B / AF-B - Vortex Bronze / White
• Rosewill | Arc <=650W - Arc M - Hive S <=650W - Glacier <=700W - TFX Bronze - TFX Gold
• Seasonic | SS-ET
• Sentey | Thillium X [TXP-HM] - Metal Blade [MBP-HS/MBP-HM] <=850W
• Segotep | BP
• Sharkoon | WPC Bronze
• Silverstone | Strider Gold Evolution [ST-G] - Strider Essential ET-B / F-ES / F-ES230 / F-ESB / F-ESG - Strider Titanium =>1100W / Plus F-PB - SX-LPT
• Skydigital | Power Station 5 80+ White
• Superflower | Bronze King - Bronze FX - Mega
• Tacens | Radix VII
• Thermaltake | Smart 80+ / SE / BM1 / BX1 (RGB) / DPS G Bronze X00W / 80+ RGB / M <=650W / SP-P (X30W/650W) / German series Bronze (Pro RGB) - TR2 Bronze / S X50W / 80+ White / RX 80+ White / RX Bronze <=750W - Toughpower DPS G Titanium 1500W - Litepower (RGB)
• Xigmatek | Centauro S - Cerberus (III) S450 - Spectrum - Tauro <=600W - X-Power I / II / III - Z-Power
• Xilence | Gaming - Performance C / A
• Zalman | GLX - GS - GT - GV - GVM <=700W - LE - LE II - LX - LXII

Courtesy of ltt psu tier list which you can check right here

 

Or  if the budget allows you can go a C tier psu 

thanks!

[Gorilla Warfare]

My bad I LOOKED AT THE 460W

https://bulk.fsp-europe.com/fsp460-60hcn

[Filingo]

20 hours ago, Gorilla Warfare said:

My bad I LOOKED AT THE 460W

https://bulk.fsp-europe.com/fsp460-60hcn

Ah they got me on 60w

[Pearl Milk Tea]

I am not sure whether you already got the solution.

However, I ensured that this model has been EOL.

Personally suggest you consider the Hydro M PRO 550W. 

This is kind of upgraded model of fsp400-60hcn.

 

[Just that Mario]

Only place I'd use such no-name brand cheap junk is to power an LED strip.

[Elisis]

1 hour ago, Just that Mario said:

Only place I'd use such no-name brand cheap junk is to power an LED strip.

FSP is very very far from no name lol

[Just that Mario]

9 hours ago, Elisis said:

FSP is very very far from no name lol

Absolutely never even heard of them and by visual appearance of the power supply questioned and price it has been sold for in the past, it looks absolute junk. In the PSU tier list they also have one model that is listed in the unknown/trash section. Googling that model (or the brand) also gives nothing solid to assume they're a known brand and quality.

[seon123]

1 minute ago, Just that Mario said:

Absolutely never even heard of them and by visual appearance of the power supply questioned and price it has been sold for in the past, it looks absolute junk. In the PSU tier list they also have one model that is listed in the unknown/trash section.

Trying to give advice about PSUs when you haven't even heard of FSP, and judging based on visual appearance... That's like trying to give advice about GPUs, but never having heard of Nvidia, and only judging by the cooler

 

[The Blackhat]

5 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Trying to give advice about PSUs when you haven't even heard of FSP, and judging based on visual appearance... That's like trying to give advice about GPUs, but never having heard of Nvidia, and only judging by the cooler

 

Only judging by the RGB*

Also when will people stop telling one of the authors of the tier list to look at the tier list…like come on, that isn’t a defense.

[Just that Mario]

15 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Trying to give advice about PSUs when you haven't even heard of FSP, and judging based on visual appearance... That's like trying to give advice about GPUs, but never having heard of Nvidia, and only judging by the cooler

 

Visual appearance can tell a lot about quality. it's been sold like 30 EUR in the past, that's absolute trash tier pricing... Also if FSP was a well known brand, people would be talking about this brand far more and it'd be widely available. Now tell me again how it is a wide known and quality brand???

[Just that Mario]

8 minutes ago, The Blackhat said:

Only judging by the RGB*

Also when will people stop telling one of the authors of the tier list to look at the tier list…like come on, that isn’t a defense.

One of the authors of the tier list? If OP was author of the tier list, he wouldn't be asking here such questions over a afaik discontinued PSU that is what, 2012, 2013 model?.

[seon123]

9 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

Visual appearance can tell a lot about quality. it's been sold like 30 EUR in the past, that's absolute trash tier pricing... Also if FSP was a well known brand, people would be talking about this brand far more and it'd be widely available. Now tell me again how it is a wide known and quality brand???

The System Power B9 looks like garbage, but it at least has DC-DC for the secondary. The EVGA G1 NEX looks decent, but is absolute garbage.

Doesn't matter if FSP is a well known brand among clueless people like you, they are the OEM for most of Be Quiet's and EVGA's PSUs. Just like any other company, they are capable of making good products, and also garbage. Not that it matters, as you should judge the product in question, not what brand it's from. Leave that for the 12 year old fanboys out there.

10 minutes ago, Just that Mario said:

One of the authors of the tier list? If OP was author of the tier list, he wouldn't be asking here such questions over a afaik discontinued PSU that is what, 2012, 2013 model?.

Elisis does work on the PSU tier list. If you have such issues remembering who you just replied to, you could check out this link:

https://www.wikihow.com/Increase-Your-Short-Term-Memory

[Just that Mario]

3 minutes ago, seon123 said:

The System Power B9 looks like garbage, but it at least has DC-DC for the secondary. The EVGA G1 NEX looks decent, but is absolute garbage.

Doesn't matter if FSP is a well known brand among clueless people like you, they are the OEM for most of Be Quiet's and EVGA's PSUs. Just like any other company, they are capable of making good products, and also garbage. Not that it matters, as you should judge the product in question, not what brand it's from. Leave that for the 12 year old fanboys out there.

Elisis does work on the PSU tier list. If you have such issues remembering who you just replied to, you could check out this link:

https://www.wikihow.com/Increase-Your-Short-Term-Memory

Why do you then start talking about the brand overall? The model in question deserves to be thrown in the bin. They can be manufacturer for some good stuff, but doesn't mean they are well known and quality brand nor that the PSU in question is good quality. I am still waiting for the explanation of how they are such a well known brand and yet you barely find anything about them or their PSUs when searched on the internet.

I never told them to LOOK at the list. I said another PSU model from this brand is in the unknown/garbage section on the list. do you have trouble with basic text comprehension? Also CLEARLY the PSU in question nor the BRAND of the PSU in question is not in the reputable PSUs section of the list. Perhaps the contributor of the list should then know that.

Stop contradicting yourself, don't put words in other people's mouths and stick to a point when you're trying to have an argument.

 

[IIIIIIIIII]

2 hours ago, Just that Mario said:

I am still waiting for the explanation of how they are such a well known brand and yet you barely find anything about them or their PSUs when searched on the internet.

Well... try a Google search.

FSP(Fortron Source Power) is a huge company that has been producing PSUs for quite some time. They even made it into the top 10 by revenue a few years ago, and are true 'Tier 1' OEMs doing pretty much everything in-house.

2 hours ago, Just that Mario said:

I never told them to LOOK at the list. I said another PSU model from this brand is in the unknown/garbage section on the list. do you have trouble with basic text comprehension? Also CLEARLY the PSU in question nor the BRAND of the PSU in question is not in the reputable PSUs section of the list. Perhaps the contributor of the list should then know that.

Yes, some of the units they manufacture are garbage units(old Hyper Non Pro series). And there are some pretty decent units(Hydro G PRO/PTM PRO, BeQuiet Straight power 11). There is also a very good unit(BeQuiet DarkPower 12).

 

All brands are the same about this. Most brands such as SeaSonic, SuperFlower, Corsair, Enermax etc. have often made problematic or terrible PSUs, but there are plenty of great ones too. Seon explained this well and I don't know why you think this is a contradiction.

[Pearl Milk Tea]

On 7/24/2021 at 5:21 PM, Just that Mario said:

Why do you then start talking about the brand overall? The model in question deserves to be thrown in the bin. They can be manufacturer for some good stuff, but doesn't mean they are well known and quality brand nor that the PSU in question is good quality. I am still waiting for the explanation of how they are such a well known brand and yet you barely find anything about them or their PSUs when searched on the internet.

I never told them to LOOK at the list. I said another PSU model from this brand is in the unknown/garbage section on the list. do you have trouble with basic text comprehension? Also CLEARLY the PSU in question nor the BRAND of the PSU in question is not in the reputable PSUs section of the list. Perhaps the contributor of the list should then know that.

Stop contradicting yourself, don't put words in other people's mouths and stick to a point when you're trying to have an argument.

 

Well... I am not trying to argue or tell you what is right or wrong... I think everyone has its own perspective. However, I would like to provide some information to you and maybe you already know.

 

If you would like to see the Tier list of PSU, you can see most of brands or suppliers have the numerous models in different Tier. 

It means you can just evaluate a brand by just one model. Maybe FSP is not really famous or well know by some people. But it really doesn't mean that it is a bad manufacturer or they manufacture the junk PSU.... 

I think you also know that FSP Group majorly focuses on the industrial level PSU then offer the ODM and OEM service to other brands like Corsair, Cool Master and Antec? FSP won't just publicly let everyone know about this. It will hurt their business. 

However, there must be some reasons that these suppliers will choose FSP to produce the PSU for them. 

FSP used to manufacture the shit PSU and good PSU at the same time in order to meet the demand from the marketing.

Some people just don't really care the quality of PSU but rather prefer the low cost product....

However, with the strong competitiveness from marketing, they gradually improve the bad PSU as well. 

Overall, I will say that this issue is not regarding whether the FSP is famous or not.

It is like if you really understand the PC component, you will understand the details between the manufacturer and supplier. 

Maybe you should check the newest model Hydro PTM PRO and Hydro G PRO series. 

 

 

[The Blackhat]

On 7/24/2021 at 11:57 AM, Just that Mario said:

One of the authors of the tier list? If OP was author of the tier list, he wouldn't be asking here such questions over a afaik discontinued PSU that is what, 2012, 2013 model?.

Wow…never seen someone miss context that hard. Well, not my problem I guess.