Oh my god...

[LapX]

I was using Debian on my laptop and a friend at school went across me and said : Linux is sooooo bad. His order is Windows as first, little behind you find mac os and totally at the bottom there is Linux...

I'm crying please help me trough this pain.

[Rorgash]

Linux is soo bad, if you arent good with computers or have the energy to make things work if you do its an amazing feeling of freedom.

[Sheldon_King]

I'm crying please help me trough this pain.

You can not save them all. 

 

Stop to think though, it is just an opinion. You may like Linux, I may not, it is just life. Just like Ford vs Chevy, Coke vs Pepsi or Conn vs Yamaha, all just personal preference. 

[MatheusSanzo]

You can not save them all. 

 

Stop to think though, it is just an opinion. You may like Linux, I may not, it is just life. Just like Ford vs Chevy, Coke vs Pepsi or Conn vs Yamaha, all just personal preference. 

Come on.

 

Everyone knows that coke > Pepsi.

 

And sparkling water > everything.

[Thorium19]

There there, it's not that bad. We all have to suffer with people like this, who oppose our own opinions, even when our opinions are proven valid compared to theirs. You just have to thank them everyday, for their sheer stupidity and idiocy making the rest of us feel smarter.

[Sheldon_King]

Come on.

 

Everyone knows that coke > Pepsi.

 

And sparkling water > everything.

Preaching to the Choir brother.  (Though I don't like sparkling water).  

 

Then again, it is still just an opinion. 

[spwath]

Preaching to the Choir brother. (Though I don't like sparkling water).

Then again, it is still just an opinion.

Yeah regular water FTW!!!

[Loe]

Linux may well be great to you, but just installing it corrupted my boot loader, TWICE.

 

So yeah you know.

[Sheldon_King]

Yeah regular water FTW!!!

Most times. If it comes out of  bottle here, I would agree (that is not to say it is always like that, but our town water tastes like crap, even when filtered (plus the whole coal ash incident makes it uneasy to drink). 

 

Linux may well be great to you, but just installing it corrupted my boot loader, TWICE.

 

So yeah you know.

How do you mean it corrupted the boot loader. A little more info about the problem may lead to a solution.  

 

The only bootloader issues I have came across are the ones where Ubuntu likes to paste the bootloader onto a secondary hard drive, making it impossible to boot the Linux partition in a different computer. (Easy fix is to pay attention during install and make sure it loads on the SSD/Primary drive or just remove all other drive's data cables during install). 

[Loe]

Most times. If it comes out of  bottle here, I would agree (that is not to say it is always like that, but our town water tastes like crap, even when filtered (plus the whole coal ash incident makes it uneasy to drink). 

 

How do you mean it corrupted the boot loader. A little more info about the problem may lead to a solution.  

 

The only bootloader issues I have came across are the ones where Ubuntu likes to paste the bootloader onto a secondary hard drive, making it impossible to boot the Linux partition in a different computer. (Easy fix is to pay attention during install and make sure it loads on the SSD/Primary drive or just remove all other drive's data cables during install). 

Issue has already been resolved, by corrupt the bootloader I mean the bootloader became corrupted, could not boot into anything.

[Sheldon_King]

Issue has already been resolved, by corrupt the bootloader I mean the bootloader became corrupted, could not boot into anything.

Okay, fair enough.    

It sounds as though there was an error between the deletion/relocation of the windows bootloader and the install of the grub bootloader. Or possibly an issue with the disk/iso of linux you downloaded (most of them are large files and it is quite easy to be corrupted during download). 

[Loe]

Okay, fair enough.    

It sounds as though there was an error between the deletion/relocation of the windows bootloader and the install of the grub bootloader. Or possibly an issue with the disk/iso of linux you downloaded (most of them are large files and it is quite easy to be corrupted during download). 

I think it was a mixture of the first one and my computer skipping bios for fast boot.

[Jumper118]

ubuntu is terrible if you want to use programs, that aren't chrome or any preloaded programs

[Sheldon_King]

I think it was a mixture of the first one and my computer skipping bios for fast boot.

hmm... That could be part of the problem, though fast boot never dawned on me as an issue, but then again I have never used it before. Could try it on my sisters laptop (Y510p) to see is it makes a difference, but I doubt she would let me.  

 

ubuntu is terrible if you want to use programs, that aren't chrome or any preloaded programs

How so? It runs steam fine, most of the time (but I only have 3 games that are linux compatible and 2 of them are boring to me), and there are plenty of programs in the repos and software center to do practically anything. 

[Jumper118]

hmm... That could be part of the problem, though fast boot never dawned on me as an issue, but then again I have never used it before. Could try it on my sisters laptop (Y510p) to see is it makes a difference, but I doubt she would let me.  

 

How so? It runs steam fine, most of the time (but I only have 3 games that are linux compatible and 2 of them are boring to me), and there are plenty of programs in the repos and software center to do practically anything. 

when i minimize anything it disappears out of existence. its not in the task manager thing or the alt tab.

[Sheldon_King]

when i minimize anything it disappears out of existence. its not in the task manager thing or the alt tab.

What DE are you running? If it is the standard one, your program will be in the sidebar, if I remember right it will have a white triangle next to it, or maybe it will be highlighted. (Sorry for the inexactness, but I hardly ever use the default DE, I run MATE, which is closer to Ubuntu 10 and before.) 

[Kaminishi]

Once I was used Debian. I liked the stability and communicity is very good, but the problem for me was it had outdated libraries and I needed to fix everything myself.
I really like Debian because of its package manager and stability it has. But more I am using Ubuntu.

[Jumper118]

What DE are you running? If it is the standard one, your program will be in the sidebar, if I remember right it will have a white triangle next to it, or maybe it will be highlighted. (Sorry for the inexactness, but I hardly ever use the default DE, I run MATE, which is closer to Ubuntu 10 and before.) 

i think its 12.04 or 12.08

[Sheldon_King]

i think its 12.04 or 12.08

I take it from your answer you likely don't know what a DE is, and were likely on the default Unity DE.   It looked like this, yes?

 

If so, you are in Unity (the default starting with 11.04), and once minimized, the programs will be on the sidebar. They may be a different colour, or maybe a arrow next to the ones that are running. As said before, It has been a long time since I used unity, so my memory is vague.   

[Victorious Secret]

The very real problem is that Linux requires more effort than most people really give a shit about putting in. Its not debatable. Its a fact. 

 

I wouldn't give Linux to my brother, father or even myself. No thanks. Maybe as a tinkering build where uptime doesn't matter, but for what I need? No thanks. 

 

Shocker, some people dislike the very open features of Linux that you love, because the process is hardly what you call user friendly. 

[Jumper118]

I take it from your answer you likely don't know what a DE is, and were likely on the default Unity DE.   It looked like this, yes?

 

If so, you are in Unity (the default starting with 11.04), and once minimized, the programs will be on the sidebar. They may be a different colour, or maybe a arrow next to the ones that are running. As said before, It has been a long time since I used unity, so my memory is vague.   

nope they go to that bar in between the other things and disappear. there is no icon on the sidebar when they are open. the program also doesn't appear in if i search for it either. its as if it deletes the program when i minimise it.

[Sheldon_King]

nope they go to that bar in between the other things and disappear. there is no icon on the sidebar when they are open. the program also doesn't appear in if i search for it either. its as if it deletes the program when i minimise it.

Were there more icons than screen resolution? (Where there was an icon just above the waste bin in that picture?)  If so, you may have had them go down the list.     

 

Either way, with MATE or most of the other DEs, you would not have had that issue. The program would have minimized to the task bar, just like in windows. 

[Yummychickenblue]

I'm using linux right now (can't say I am good at it though.)

[Jumper118]

Were there more icons than screen resolution? (Where there was an icon just above the waste bin in that picture?)  If so, you may have had them go down the list.     

 

Either way, with MATE or most of the other DEs, you would not have had that issue. The program would have minimized to the task bar, just like in windows. 

it isn't though. they aren't even processors running it the system manager yet it says my cpu is at 100% all the time? to be precise if i run anything it goes in between the spanner and the software manager thing.

[Sheldon_King]

it isn't though. they aren't even processors running it the system manager yet it says my cpu is at 100% all the time? to be precise if i run anything it goes in between the spanner and the software manager thing.

I don't know what is wrong then. Did you ever try reinstalling from a known good iso (check the MD5 of the downloaded iso)?