where to find cheap pci gpus ?

[pizza cat]

im looking for a cheap pci gpu with great perfomance for my old hp hp pavilion a220n witch also has agp so i could get a agp gpu but i have had no luck with agp gpus either im using  a NVIDIA nForce2 IGP  my budget is 20 bucks

[Levent]

Ebay. Those things are hard to come by and always priced waaay more than they worth. For example:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/224349810990?hash=item343c4a712e:g:G9sAAOSw~SZgJrLs

[CerealExperimentsLain]

eBay is flooded with very cheap brand new PCI nVidia's FX5500.  It's def the cheapest and easiest to access PCI graphics upgrade out there.  There are some better PCI versions but they're rare oddball things and in some case expensive.

 

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/254730752483?hash=item3b4f22d1e3:g:MtUAAOSw0Llfb9JO

 

There are far newer PCI cards but if this is a retro PC not running a modern OS, this would be a problem.  Meanwhile the FX5500 has Win9X drivers.

 

If you want AGP though, I have a Radeon 9600 XT AGP I'd sell you for like $25+shipping.

[pizza cat]

dose any one know what APIs my NVIDIA nForce2 IGP support ?

[CerealExperimentsLain]

3 minutes ago, pizza cat said:

dose any one know what APIs my NVIDIA nForce2 IGP support ?

DirectX.... 7.   Five less than DX12.

[pizza cat]

so far everything i found is way overpiced  so i guess im just going to stick with  my NVIDIA nForce2 IGP

[emosun]

There would be no reason to use pci over the agp slot. The pci slot is significantly slower. But you havent actually listed a budget so recommending a gpu is currently not possible.

[pizza cat]

4 minutes ago, emosun said:

There would be no reason to use pci over the agp slot. The pci slot is significantly slower. But you havent actually listed a budget so recommending a gpu is currently not possible.

the main reason to use the pci slot in my  case is that there are more pci gpus  i would perfer a agp gpu but there are barley any on ebay for a cheap price btw the budget is 20  bucks

[emosun]

1 minute ago, pizza cat said:

the main reason to use the pci slot in my  case is that there are more pci gpus  i would perfer a agp gpu but there are barley any on ebay for a cheap price 

Well again you still havent listed a budget so nobody on earth will be able to make any form of gpu recomendations to you. Should you choose to disclose the price you had in mind someone could possibly help you.

[pizza cat]

so you can now see my budget 

[Mark Kaine]

AGP is way cooler.

Id go with this! 

 

55 $ at newegg…

 

 

But dont be ridiculous, agp cards are tons on ebay between 10-30 bucks!  

 

And they'll usually smoke your "nForce" I think! 

[pizza cat]

1 minute ago, Mark Kaine said:

AGP is way cooler.

Id go with this! 

 

55 $ at newegg…

 

 

But dont be ridiculous, agp cards are tons on ebay between 10-30 bucks!  

 

And they'll usually smoke your "nForce" 

thx  but so far the gpus i found that are in my price range are not that much better that my nforce saddly 

[WhitetailAni]

A GeForce 4 MX440 might be a good fit. I've seen them on eBay for $15 USD.

[CerealExperimentsLain]

Just now, FakeKGB said:

A GeForce 4 MX440 might be a good fit. I've seen them on eBay for $15 USD.

That's actually what the IGP on that nForce 2 chipset is.

[pizza cat]

2 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

A GeForce 4 MX440 might be a good fit. I've seen them on eBay for $15 USD.

thx i will check them  out

[WhitetailAni]

2 minutes ago, CerealExperimentsLain said:

That's actually what the IGP on that nForce 2 chipset is.

Ah. I misread Google - it said GeForce 4 MX.

I'm very uneducated on the GeForce 4 line - the MX revisions are weird. Radeon's a lot easier to understand - bigger number = better.

 

In that case, ignore me. I hold no knowledge here.

Just now, pizza cat said:

thx i will check them  out

Don't - it's the same as the iGPU on your motherboard. I misread Google.

[pizza cat]

1 minute ago, FakeKGB said:

Ah. I misread Google - it said GeForce 4 MX.

I'm very uneducated on the GeForce 4 line - the MX revisions are weird. Radeon's a lot easier to understand - bigger number = better.

 

In that case, ignore me. I hold no knowledge here.

Don't - it's the same as the iGPU on your motherboard. I misread Google.

ok 

[CerealExperimentsLain]

Just now, FakeKGB said:

Ah. I misread Google - it said GeForce 4 MX.

I'm very uneducated on the GeForce 4 line - the MX revisions are weird. Radeon's a lot easier to understand - bigger number = better.

 

In that case, ignore me. I hold no knowledge here.

Oh you might be right those are similar names and I might be confused... It'd still be a bit of a lateral move within the same family.

 

But yeah most 'Old midlevel retro GPUs' are not too expensive to get, but the OP doesn't seem to wanna get in on that. Even $50 doesn't seem like a big deal to me to get a classic PC going if you want to use it for fun.

Heck I offered up a Radeon 9600 XT for only 25.

[Mark Kaine]

hows this?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Grafikkarte-PowerColor-X1950-Pro-256MB-AC-PCIe-/193814202513?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=707-53477-19255-0&campid=5338268676&toolid=10044&customid=EAIaIQobChMI2_ik7cLl8AIVBOJ3Ch2uNgY5EAQYAiABEgJf4_D_BwE

 

or this

https://www.ebay.de/itm/124727048690?_trkparms=aid%3D1110011%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.DISCLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20191002092920%26meid%3D1e761c8fb8744ea3a6380a8c960e8563%26pid%3D101103%26rk%3D11%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D193814202513%26itm%3D124727048690%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2332490%26algv%3Ddefault%26brand%3DSAPPHIRE&_trksid=p2332490.c101103.m3021&amdata=cksum%3A1247270486901e761c8fb8744ea3a6380a8c960e8563|enc%3AAQAFAAAB8CcXRJ4vQYLxKJDXZdocnb%2BiK0tAJPCRlYLp%2BKl2SUSwKXMfIPyzNTUqf6upMSQ%2BflTH%2F7cVAuYK9ucy3oe9p9Snm%2BRu%2FLFs%2FF%2B%2Fyu79b4xx2MhE6%2BXrlMDSTdFtsZVKjOLm3395Xqx5rlXiNFDK2Chq74u0XYCNMmEJ4WH7L6zvzOa57r0zz0GjaUtC%2FNdlhQEdqb0KSS9jev%2BfosZcDO9YBN96m1OtYn43F%2FkHnWQ70HaPBBFZxLLh2nLK%2FqfkeuMjOyBKKX6Hr6AjRhTXr43Le8AtvqrKIiCel4n4kTdd4NCIwYMMQvZo4FGgnT2BpQdDG2%2BILaxe6R%2BDMOUBBcNPutv3HeEv48AG32kiXCPNbRkfbo8XaY3WIChzJeXm5zosBVFYGWKi2EE6IFdkmzvTj5VowgxsidWAICp%2FJoLrhyRVNlNDu2%2F3NTbLGx6mGefy8GxA4ikAsHw3b%2FpKLwNozAxQCNhpQyRSVx0Xy%2FxX5hLxjQ8BWk9uYD%2FRvtKuogk5znVcisB1ejd%2BnFJBRsSNfFkJKnOnCffEpYRHqj%2F%2F%2FKha67uqWZWuxuoVFnDjKv9GCiBAi7S2aFs8jbs1QRWvYWyOAxcCuAKQi%2FlaTq2L9Qhqu%2FGjzaJWJXQE81MzgBxIg1c4gbhsKbRC4QSoTV4%3D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2332490

 

 

 

[pizza cat]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

hows this?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Grafikkarte-PowerColor-X1950-Pro-256MB-AC-PCIe-/193814202513?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=707-53477-19255-0&campid=5338268676&toolid=10044&customid=EAIaIQobChMI2_ik7cLl8AIVBOJ3Ch2uNgY5EAQYAiABEgJf4_D_BwE

 

or this

https://www.ebay.de/itm/124727048690?_trkparms=aid%3D1110011%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.DISCLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20191002092920%26meid%3D1e761c8fb8744ea3a6380a8c960e8563%26pid%3D101103%26rk%3D11%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D193814202513%26itm%3D124727048690%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2332490%26algv%3Ddefault%26brand%3DSAPPHIRE&_trksid=p2332490.c101103.m3021&amdata=cksum%3A1247270486901e761c8fb8744ea3a6380a8c960e8563|enc%3AAQAFAAAB8CcXRJ4vQYLxKJDXZdocnb%2BiK0tAJPCRlYLp%2BKl2SUSwKXMfIPyzNTUqf6upMSQ%2BflTH%2F7cVAuYK9ucy3oe9p9Snm%2BRu%2FLFs%2FF%2B%2Fyu79b4xx2MhE6%2BXrlMDSTdFtsZVKjOLm3395Xqx5rlXiNFDK2Chq74u0XYCNMmEJ4WH7L6zvzOa57r0zz0GjaUtC%2FNdlhQEdqb0KSS9jev%2BfosZcDO9YBN96m1OtYn43F%2FkHnWQ70HaPBBFZxLLh2nLK%2FqfkeuMjOyBKKX6Hr6AjRhTXr43Le8AtvqrKIiCel4n4kTdd4NCIwYMMQvZo4FGgnT2BpQdDG2%2BILaxe6R%2BDMOUBBcNPutv3HeEv48AG32kiXCPNbRkfbo8XaY3WIChzJeXm5zosBVFYGWKi2EE6IFdkmzvTj5VowgxsidWAICp%2FJoLrhyRVNlNDu2%2F3NTbLGx6mGefy8GxA4ikAsHw3b%2FpKLwNozAxQCNhpQyRSVx0Xy%2FxX5hLxjQ8BWk9uYD%2FRvtKuogk5znVcisB1ejd%2BnFJBRsSNfFkJKnOnCffEpYRHqj%2F%2F%2FKha67uqWZWuxuoVFnDjKv9GCiBAi7S2aFs8jbs1QRWvYWyOAxcCuAKQi%2FlaTq2L9Qhqu%2FGjzaJWJXQE81MzgBxIg1c4gbhsKbRC4QSoTV4%3D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2332490

 

 

 

the ebay listing says there both pcie sadly 

[CerealExperimentsLain]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

hows this?

https://www.ebay.de/itm/Grafikkarte-PowerColor-X1950-Pro-256MB-AC-PCIe-/193814202513?var=0&mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=707-53477-19255-0&campid=5338268676&toolid=10044&customid=EAIaIQobChMI2_ik7cLl8AIVBOJ3Ch2uNgY5EAQYAiABEgJf4_D_BwE

 

or this

https://www.ebay.de/itm/124727048690?_trkparms=aid%3D1110011%26algo%3DHOMESPLICE.DISCLISTINGS%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20191002092920%26meid%3D1e761c8fb8744ea3a6380a8c960e8563%26pid%3D101103%26rk%3D11%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D193814202513%26itm%3D124727048690%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2332490%26algv%3Ddefault%26brand%3DSAPPHIRE&_trksid=p2332490.c101103.m3021&amdata=cksum%3A1247270486901e761c8fb8744ea3a6380a8c960e8563|enc%3AAQAFAAAB8CcXRJ4vQYLxKJDXZdocnb%2BiK0tAJPCRlYLp%2BKl2SUSwKXMfIPyzNTUqf6upMSQ%2BflTH%2F7cVAuYK9ucy3oe9p9Snm%2BRu%2FLFs%2FF%2B%2Fyu79b4xx2MhE6%2BXrlMDSTdFtsZVKjOLm3395Xqx5rlXiNFDK2Chq74u0XYCNMmEJ4WH7L6zvzOa57r0zz0GjaUtC%2FNdlhQEdqb0KSS9jev%2BfosZcDO9YBN96m1OtYn43F%2FkHnWQ70HaPBBFZxLLh2nLK%2FqfkeuMjOyBKKX6Hr6AjRhTXr43Le8AtvqrKIiCel4n4kTdd4NCIwYMMQvZo4FGgnT2BpQdDG2%2BILaxe6R%2BDMOUBBcNPutv3HeEv48AG32kiXCPNbRkfbo8XaY3WIChzJeXm5zosBVFYGWKi2EE6IFdkmzvTj5VowgxsidWAICp%2FJoLrhyRVNlNDu2%2F3NTbLGx6mGefy8GxA4ikAsHw3b%2FpKLwNozAxQCNhpQyRSVx0Xy%2FxX5hLxjQ8BWk9uYD%2FRvtKuogk5znVcisB1ejd%2BnFJBRsSNfFkJKnOnCffEpYRHqj%2F%2F%2FKha67uqWZWuxuoVFnDjKv9GCiBAi7S2aFs8jbs1QRWvYWyOAxcCuAKQi%2FlaTq2L9Qhqu%2FGjzaJWJXQE81MzgBxIg1c4gbhsKbRC4QSoTV4%3D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A2332490

 

 

 

Thooooose are PCIE not PCI... ^^;;;;;  This is an nForce 2 board, that's not gonna do PCIE.

[Kronoton]

4 minutes ago, FakeKGB said:

Radeon's a lot easier to understand - bigger number = better.

Nope, 8500 is better than 9000 which is better than 9250..... (all the same GPU at different clock and RAM)

 

Depending what kind of games are the target I'd be looking for something R300 (9600 and up, here bigger is better).

[Mark Kaine]

Just now, CerealExperimentsLain said:

Thooooose are PCIE not PCI... ^^;;;;;  This is an nForce 2 board, that's not gonna do PCIE.

oh, shit. ok … AGP is it then!

 

[pizza cat]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

oh, shit. ok … AGP is it then!

 

AGP is the way to go 

[Mark Kaine]

5 minutes ago, CerealExperimentsLain said:

Thooooose are PCIE not PCI... ^^;;;;;  

Thats really weird because I have a X1950 "GT" and thats AGP

https://www.ebay.de/itm/153781342046?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=707-134425-41852-0&mkcid=2&itemid=153781342046&targetid=1270839892271&device=m&mktype=pla&googleloc=1004054&poi=&campaignid=10203814251&mkgroupid=119186995141&rlsatarget=pla-1270839892271&abcId=1145988&merchantid=7364532&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3pCM3sXl8AIVHAWiAx1stgXtEAQYASABEgKuOfD_BwE

 

 

This is *it* isnt it???

 

Has to blow nforce out of the water!?