Laptop Doesn't Perform as well as LTT Review

[Yahoo Mama]

I recently purchased an HP Envy x360 in part because of the review from LTT (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V3uB12mRrU) where the performance in 3D Mark Time Spy was reported at 2405. This edged out my decision to go with something with an entry-level GPU, since that performance is a little faster than a 760, which was my first ever desktop GPU and something I'd happily take the performance of in a laptop.

 

I was very disappointed to find out that my unit didn't even get half of that performance, getting 1100 in the same test. Technically they're not the same model, but the specs are similar enough that it should make no difference (the differences are: mine is the 15 inch model and uses a 5500U instead of a 4500U. I can't imagine either of those having a negative impact). The device is in performance mode, so that's not the issue.

 

I can't imagine LTT lying about it, so I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume it was a mistake. That said though, even if its not intentional, its still disappointing.

 

EDIT: They might've been using the Fire Strike benchmark. Still not good but at least I know where the number's coming from.

 

[Xalciodra]

@Yahoo Mama
Is it possible you are using build in graphics?

[Yahoo Mama]

I also found another score online for a 4500u at 1042 (https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18161386) so it looks like its not just me. Pretty sure the chip just doesn't perform as well as reported in the video.

[Yahoo Mama]

Both the review and my unit are. The laptop is integrated GPU only.

[Tan3l6]

How about power options in Windoows? Set to balanced or lower?

Also different integrated graphics perform differently.

[Xalciodra]

1 minute ago, Yahoo Mama said:

Both the review and my unit are. The laptop is integrated GPU only.

oh ok i'm sorry was thinking out loud

[Yahoo Mama]

Just now, Tan3l6 said:

How about power options in Windoows? Set to balanced or lower?

All on highest.

[Tan3l6]

14 minutes ago, Yahoo Mama said:

HP Envy x360

But there are so-so many configurations, of course cheaper performe worse - https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mdp/laptops/envy-x360-204075--1#!&tab=vao

$700-1250 range is quite wide.

[Murasaki]

I just checked the video and checked out a few websites. I think what you're seeing on the charts might be CPU scores of Time Spy, not GPU. Linus was talking about Intel/AMD so their emphasis on that part of the video was processors.

[Naijin]

3 minutes ago, Murasaki said:

I just checked the video and checked out a few websites. I think what you're seeing on the charts might be CPU scores of Time Spy, not GPU. Linus was talking about Intel/AMD so their emphasis on that part of the video was processors.

CPU score would indeed make sense, since you now have 12 threads with the 5500U and 6 threads with the 4500U.

[Tan3l6]

8 minutes ago, Murasaki said:

I just checked the video and checked out a few websites. I think what you're seeing on the charts might be CPU scores of Time Spy, not GPU. Linus was talking about Intel/AMD so their emphasis on that part of the video was processors.

I doubt it , Linus states that "Time Spy score is... "

I rather suspect there is a performance gap between different  HP Envy x360 models.

 

Maybe OP would clarify which model they bought? @Yahoo Mama

Edit: actaully the difference is bigger than would be if just a better iGPU was the case.

[Xalciodra]

@Yahoo Mama

I think @Tan3l6 is right.

Different models..

 

AMD Ryzen 5 5500U vs AMD Ryzen 5 4500U (notebookcheck.net)

[Yahoo Mama]

19 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

I doubt it , Linus states that "Time Spy score is... "

I rather suspect there is a performance gap between different  HP Envy x360 models.

 

Maybe OP would clarify which model they bought? @Yahoo Mama

Edit: actaully the difference is bigger than would be if just a better iGPU was the case.

This is the one I have https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-x360-2-in-1-15-6-touch-screen-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-8gb-memory-256gb-ssd-nightfall-black/6453188.p?skuId=6453188

 

And yeah, that performance gap is large relative to what I would expect. Unless they crippled the iGPU on this new model.

[Yahoo Mama]

24 minutes ago, Murasaki said:

I just checked the video and checked out a few websites. I think what you're seeing on the charts might be CPU scores of Time Spy, not GPU. Linus was talking about Intel/AMD so their emphasis on that part of the video was processors.

The CPU score I got on that was about 5000, and that wouldn't make sense either. I doubt AMD literally doubled their CPU performance from the 4500u to the 5500u.

[Yahoo Mama]

15 minutes ago, Xalciodra said:

@Yahoo Mama

I think @Tan3l6 is right.

Different models..

 

AMD Ryzen 5 5500U vs AMD Ryzen 5 4500U (notebookcheck.net)

They are different but 1800MHz is greater than 1500MHz. I would expect mine to be faster.

 

Granted there might be other disparities, maybe core count or IPC is different, but it would be very strange for AMD to release a slower iGPU in a newer chip.

[genexis_x]

Vega 7 iGPU would never reach such high graphics score (2000+)

[Yahoo Mama]

27 minutes ago, Naijin said:

CPU score would indeed make sense, since you now have 12 threads with the 5500U and 6 threads with the 4500U.

Thread count doubling doesn't usually double performance. You get maybe more efficient use of the cores you do have but not much more. It also wouldn't make sense for them to have shown another member of staff curling a GPU if they were talking about CPU.

 

Additionally, this score (https://www.3dmark.com/spy/18161386) for the 4500U has a CPU score of 4183, so that would be way too low if the ~2500 number on the video was correct.

 

[Yahoo Mama]

39 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

But there are so-so many configurations, of course cheaper performe worse - https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/mdp/laptops/envy-x360-204075--1#!&tab=vao

$700-1250 range is quite wide.

It should really only depend on the CPU, since the iGPU is where the performance is coming from. They showed either a 4500U or 5500U, and the cost was about the same as what was reported.

[Tan3l6]

16 minutes ago, Yahoo Mama said:

It should really only depend on the CPU, since the iGPU is where the performance is coming from. They showed either a 4500U or 5500U, and the cost was about the same as what was reported.

Erm, maybe it was an error, as 4500U gets around 2500 points in Fire Strike - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22329061

 

[Darkseth]

Hope i didn't miss the Information but was your Laptop plugged in during the Benchmark?

[Yahoo Mama]

15 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Erm, maybe it was an error, as 4500U gets around 2500 points in Fire Strike - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/22329061

 

That's probably what it was. Its not the end of the world, but it is disappointing compared to what I expected.

 

Its still 3x higher than my old laptop in GPU and 5x faster in CPU, so I should be happy for the improvement, but ya know, loss aversion and all.