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Do you know when the people that are willing to over pay for a card will all have as many as they want? 

The answer to that question is the same as your question.

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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1 minute ago, giuseppels said:

does someone know when the prices on gpus will drop?

 

I guarantee you, not a single person here "knows" this. Not one.

 

You'll be waiting at least till the end of this year, if not longer. Probably longer. 

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By mid 2022. Those are the earliest estimates. Right now the best bet is to try to get one from a local store where they won't be scalped, or from the VAG program

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1 minute ago, IkeaGnome said:

Do you know when the people that are willing to over pay for a card will all have as many as they want? 

The answer to that question is the same as your question.

but isnt the real problem the crypto miners becuase they buy a lot of gpus that cause the shortage 

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1 minute ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

By mid 2022. Those are the earliest estimates. Right now the best bet is to try to get one from a local store where they won't be scalped, or from the VAG program

mmm yeah i actualy work at an "pc" store ahhaha they dont have any they are out of stock again 😅

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2 minutes ago, giuseppels said:

but isnt the real problem the crypto miners becuase they buy a lot of gpus that cause the shortage 

People who use GPUs buying them is not the issue. 

It's a supply chain/foundry manufacturing capacity issue AFAIK, and of the comparatively few cards that could make it directly to consumers to begin with, a lot of those are yoinked by scalpers who play needless middleman for profit. Same with Playstations, I think the new Xboxes as well, the Switch when it originally launched, the entire Vega Series on launch and all Pascal cards during the etherium boom, etc. 

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1 minute ago, Zando Bob said:

People who use GPUs buying them is not the issue. 

It's a supply chain/foundry manufacturing capacity issue AFAIK, and of the comparatively few cards that could make it directly to consumers to begin with, a lot of those are yoinked by scalpers who play needless middleman for profit. Same with Playstations, I think the new Xboxes as well, the Switch when it originally launched, the entire Vega Series on launch and all Pascal cards during the etherium boom, etc. 

mmm oke that sucks  , i allways thought that the crypto miners where causing this shortage 

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7 minutes ago, giuseppels said:

but isnt the real problem the crypto miners becuase they buy a lot of gpus that cause the shortage 

No, but I'm not touching another mInErS bAd thread for a while...

I'm not actually trying to be as grumpy as it seems.

I will find your mentions of Ikea or Gnome and I will /s post. 

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2 minutes ago, giuseppels said:

but isnt the real problem the crypto miners becuase they buy a lot of gpus that cause the shortage 

4 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

People who use GPUs buying them is not the issue. 

It's a supply chain/foundry manufacturing capacity issue AFAIK....

*angrily deletes twenty minutes of double checking research with sources, steam hardware surveys and other info*  what he said

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Just now, giuseppels said:

yeah i think that the miners just wasted a lot of money they are never gonna make back (possible that im wrong)

Miners worth their salt know how long it takes to earn back what they paid for a card and start generating profit, it's people who hop on it as a fad who lose money (same in the etherium boom). 

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Depends if the etherum craze gets limited in a couple of months.. if it does.. well shit.

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15 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

Miners worth their salt know how long it takes to earn back what they paid for a card and start generating profit, it's people who hop on it as a fad who lose money (same in the etherium boom). 

i think that it is mainly becuase they hop into it without enought research  

 

15 hours ago, MultiGamerClub said:

Depends if the etherum craze gets limited in a couple of months.. if it does.. well shit.

i hope not .....😥

 

15 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

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thx for comfirming 

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1 minute ago, giuseppels said:

i think that it is mainly becuase they hop into it without enought research  

I have an old 270X thats been going since 2019, that thing earned its place until winter electricity shot so high up it wasnt feasable 😄

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1 hour ago, giuseppels said:

does someone know when the prices on gpus will drop?

especialy the 30 serie ones.

 

becuase in my country you pay like fucking 999 dolar for an 3060 ti .... thats so overpriced (my opinion) .

and i would buy one if the prices dont drop frome now till end of the year.

Your best bet would be entering Newegg shuffle. I just got email from them saying I was selected to buy 3060 (non-ti) for 600 bucks including shipping and taxes so naturally I paid for it. It took me about 20 or so times entering the shuffle before I was selected so it may take time. from all the hints online Nvidia said the shortages may last only this year they are planning to have more volume next year so keep being hopeful.

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3 minutes ago, patiencehasleftthebuilding said:

Your best bet would be entering Newegg shuffle. I just got email from them saying I was selected to buy 3060 (non-ti) for 600 bucks including shipping and taxes so naturally I paid for it. It took me about 20 or so times entering the shuffle before I was selected so it may take time. from all the hints online Nvidia said the shortages may last only this year they are planning to have more volume next year so keep being hopeful.

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right now - it's just a perfect storm various demand and supply factors.... so it is a complete guessing game.

 

The supply chain problems will get sorted in the next 6-12 months: everything from water supplies to covid/staffing issues impacting production.

 

In terms of demand... far harder to predict: you've got crypto miners soaking up all reasonably-priced supply and then a few scalpers looking to make a profit off a handful of desperate/stupid buyers

 

if crypto prices hold out.... it'll probably be the end of 2021 or even mid-2022 before supply catches up with the MASSIVE levels of demand....

 

if crypto prices crash, the GPU prices will too....

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20 hours ago, BahnStormer said:

right now - it's just a perfect storm various demand and supply factors.... so it is a complete guessing game.

 

The supply chain problems will get sorted in the next 6-12 months: everything from water supplies to covid/staffing issues impacting production.

 

In terms of demand... far harder to predict: you've got crypto miners soaking up all reasonably-priced supply and then a few scalpers looking to make a profit off a handful of desperate/stupid buyers

 

if crypto prices hold out.... it'll probably be the end of 2021 or even mid-2022 before supply catches up with the MASSIVE levels of demand....

 

if crypto prices crash, the GPU prices will too....

thank you for the info 

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