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3000Mhz RAM only runs at 1800 - XMP Does not work, nor does BIOS overclocking.

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SOLVED - Thanks for your help!

 

UPDATE:

 

I have managed to get all 4 Sticks to 2143 Mhz. 

I am pretty happy, and will try to fine tune everything to see how far I can go with it. I  jut changed the voltage in the BIOS to 3.5 and manually set the multiplier to 12.33. I hope this will be stable in games and stuff. 

 

UPDATE: 

 reached 2676 Mhz

 

UPDATE: 

Went full sicko mode and tried 3000Mhz. Works fine (still)

I will do some testing and see if its stable under load. 

 

Thank you all so much for helping me with this! I really thought my motherboard was broken.

This community is amazing!

 

 

Could someone tell me if the different RAM kits I have used will cause any trouble in performance? There are only slight differences (I posted the pictures of the SPD Info but here they are again: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-Ar7q1-YfoEfoadRqRmsVA4SlEdo0u5r?usp=sharing )

Hi everyone!

 

I got a new Motherboard (x570 Aorus Ultra) since I want to upgrade from my Ryzen 5 2600 ssoon. I kept the RAM (G.Skill Aegis 2x8 GB DDR4 3000) but I noticed that it only runs at 2133Mhz. I enabled XMP (or tried so) and the BIOS just didn't apply the new settings to the RAM. Even in BIOS it still shows it running at 2133Mhz although all settings have been changed and are shown there as well. Before I noticed that, I ordered the same kit of RAM again, jut installed it and the frequency dropped down to 1875Mhz. Why? Is my Processor too bad  for that amount of RAM? I even punched the numbers  in by hand and there still was no difference  in Performance. What triggers me the most is that now, with even more RAM, It seems to have gotten worse and I feel like I have waisted my money. Does anyone have a solution  to this? Also, on the side, my PC doesn't shut down, when I start the shutdown it turns off for 1 second and boots up again in an instant. Correlation?

 

Im thankful for any help 🙂

 

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Is the BIOS up to date?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

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Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Use cpuz in windows to read the speed. (it will read half the actual speed)

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

BIOS up to date?

It is on the newest version. I just updated it.

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Just now, cm992 said:

cpuz i

CPUz reads the same, so basically half  of the number in the BIOS

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4 minutes ago, icy3309 said:

It is on the newest version. I just updated it.

Gigabyte BIOS requires manually setting the frequency, so you have to set memory multiplier to 30.

 

If this wont apply, clear CMOS and try again.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

Can you attach it as a .jpg or .png?
.heic images aren't natively readable by Chromebooks, and files aren't allowed to be attached without a preview.

Its a PDF now, I hope that works

 

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Gigabyte BIOS requires manually setting the frequency, so you have to set memory multiplier to 30.

 

If this wont apply, clear CMOS and try again.

I did the manual setting of the frequency, also changed  the power to 1.35V. CMOS is the little battery, right?

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28 minutes ago, icy3309 said:

CMOS is the little battery, right?

Yes. there should also be two pins that you can short for clear CMOS, the manual will mention its location or whether it exists at all.

 

13 minutes ago, icy3309 said:

Also the timings set by the BIOS seem to be wrong:

Just because you couldnt see what the SPD profile on the stick says (which can have way more than 4 profiles) doesn't mean they don't exist. It could very well have a 2133MHz CL13 profile and enabling XMP will let the motherboard take it rather than the slowest JEDEC default of 2133MHz CL15.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Ok, so I will short the CMOS now and report if it worked. Thanks for the help!

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14 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Yes. there should also be two pins that you can short for clear CMOS, the manual will mention its location or whether it exists at all.

 

Just because you couldnt see what the SPD profile on the stick says (which can have way more than 4 profiles) doesn't mean they don't exist. It could very well have a 2133MHz CL13 profile and enabling XMP will let the motherboard take it rather than the slowest JEDEC default of 2133MHz CL15.

I cleared the CMOS and restarted the system. The Frequency still sits at 1800Mhz but the voltage went down to 1.2 again (standard) What should I do next? Is XMP even possible with 4 sticks of RAM?

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32 minutes ago, icy3309 said:

I cleared the CMOS and restarted the system. The Frequency still sits at 1800Mhz but the voltage went down to 1.2 again (standard) What should I do next? Is XMP even possible with 4 sticks of RAM?

So you mixed kits (should have mentioned this from the beginning)? Try with only 1 kit at a time then

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

So you mixed kits (should have mentioned this from the beginning)? Try with only 1 kit at a time then

nah i didnt mix kits, i tried both seperately and they are the same two kits.

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Just now, icy3309 said:

nah i didnt mix kits, i tried both seperately and they are the same two kits.

Did you buy them 2 at a time or all 4 at once?
Even memory from the same brand can have weird intercompatibility bugs.

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Have you tried to manually set Fclk, Mclk, main timings and voltage? I too am running two different kits, both are B die. My Royals are the better sticks, they do everything with .05v less then my Black and Whites. They can also run faster and tighter, much tighter. So they are both from the same brand, same series, same speed and timings of 3200 14-14-14-34 1.35v, they are different sticks when it comes to overclocking. I did get lucky and DOCP works, but I don't use it.

 

It definitely does not sound happy with your memory configuration though. I did have a nice Giga board once, it could be a little finicky, but I didn't experience anything like what you describe.

 

On the plus side, you are running CL13 :old-love:

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1 hour ago, icy3309 said:

nah i didnt mix kits, i tried both seperately and they are the same two kits.

same model of kits is not the same kit. 2 2x8gb kit is not the same as a 4x8gb kit, they do not take your case as valid RMA reason.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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The Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) on Ryzen 2000-series is not a robust compared to Ryzen 3000-series and 5000-series CPUs.

That and running 4-sticks of DRAM is also more taxing on the IMC than 2-sticks.

 

To start, I would not worry about XMP / DDR4-3000 right now.

You are jumping onto to Step #3 when you haven't even completed Step #1.

Get JEDEC DDR4-2133 working first on all 4-sticks of memory.

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1 hour ago, ragnarok0273 said:

Did you buy them 2 at a time or all 4 at once?
Even memory from the same brand can have weird intercompatibility bugs.

I bought them seperately, which is true they might be different, problem is that as well with only two sticks of one set xmp and overclocking does not work

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Just now, icy3309 said:

I bought them seperately, which is true they might be different, problem is that as well with only two sticks of one set xmp and overclocking does not work

Put two sticks from the same purchase together.

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1 hour ago, freeagent said:

Have you tried to manually set Fclk, Mclk, main timings and voltage? I too am running two different kits, both are B die. My Royals are the better sticks, they do everything with .05v less then my Black and Whites. They can also run faster and tighter, much tighter. So they are both from the same brand, same series, same speed and timings of 3200 14-14-14-34 1.35v, they are different sticks when it comes to overclocking. I did get lucky and DOCP works, but I don't use it.

 

It definitely does not sound happy with your memory configuration though. I did have a nice Giga board once, it could be a little finicky, but I didn't experience anything like what you describe.

 

On the plus side, you are running CL13 :old-love:

I did try to put everything in by hand, problem is, it just does not get applied.

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Just now, icy3309 said:

I did try to put everything in by hand, problem is, it just does not get applied.

That board would be a frisbee to me 🙂

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