So what happened to Seasonic's 1600w power supply?

[Orian Pax]

a) so what happened to Seasonic's 1600w psu the one they showcased last year?
b) Is seasonic gonna launch 1600w psu?
c) is corsair's AX 1600i made by seasonic?
(the rebranding thing)

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/seasonic-prime-1600w-computex-2019,39536.html

 

https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/dominic-moass/computex-2019-new-power-supplies-and-modded-pcs-at-seasonic/

[Ankerson]

Just now, Kpp550 said:

a) so what happened to Seasonic's 1600w psu the one they showcased last year?
b) Is seasonic gonna launch 1600w psu?
c) is corsair's AX 1600i made by seasonic?
(the rebranding thing)

 

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/seasonic-prime-1600w-computex-2019,39536.html

 

https://www.kitguru.net/components/power-supplies/dominic-moass/computex-2019-new-power-supplies-and-modded-pcs-at-seasonic/

 

NO, it's not, the Corsair AXI 1600 made by Flextronics, along with the AXI 1500 etc.

[PCoverclock]

why do yo uneed a 1600 watt psu

[seon123]

8 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

a) so what happened to Seasonic's 1600w psu the one they showcased last year?

Seems like it's cancelled. No reference to it on their website.

https://seasonic.com/prime-tx

9 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

b) Is seasonic gonna launch 1600w psu?

Hopefully not. If they do, I hope it's one that doesn't skimp out on the protections and fan, like all of their other PSUs.

9 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

c) is corsair's AX 1600i made by seasonic?

Obviously not. You could have checked this in 30 seconds by looking at any review of the PSU. It's made by Flextronics, just like the rest of the AXi lineup.

[Orian Pax]

19 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Hopefully not. If they do, I hope it's one that doesn't skimp out on the protections and fan, like all of their other PSUs.

okay hold on what are you saying here?
a) Seasonic's PSU doesn't skimp on protections and fan
or
b) Seasonic's PSU (at least few), skimp on protection and fan

 

21 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Obviously not. You could have checked this in 30 seconds by looking at any review of the PSU. It's made by Flextronics, just like the rest of the AXi lineup.

c) okay so how do you guys figure out this psu is made by this company or that company, it takes me about 30-40 minutes to find and confirm it (such things).
yes i am a newbie, sorry for trouble.

d) and do companies tell consumers our PSU is made by this or that brand openly?
yes a newbie and naive at that, again sorry for trouble.

e) and for that 30 seconds part, i l know there's psu tier list but i want to ask if there's page/forum dedicated to reviewing PSU only?

 

[seon123]

1 minute ago, Kpp550 said:

okay hold on what are you saying here?
a) Seasonic's PSU doesn't skimp on protections and fan
or
b) Seasonic's PSU (at least few), skimp on protection and fan

All of Seasonic's PSUs lack multi rail OCP. In the past (e.g. M12II 500W) they lied about having multi rail on the label, despite the PSU missing the protection. The S12 III seems to also lack OTP.

Even their highest end PSUs, the Prime, uses a crappy Hong Hua fan. In my desktop, it is the loudest part of the system, both under load and at idle.

6 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

c) okay so how do you guys figure out this psu is made by this company or that company, it takes me about 30-40 minutes to find and confirm it (such things).
yes i am a newbie, sorry for trouble.

Spoiler

 

9 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

d) and do companies tell consumers our PSU is made by this or that brand openly?
yes a newbie and naive at that, again sorry for trouble.

They usually don't advertise it. But I remember Fractal Design being quite open about it with the Ion+. You could contact a brand's support and ask.

10 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

e) and for that 30 seconds part, i l know there's psu tier list but i want to ask if there's page/forum dedicated to reviewing PSU only?

You could check the Jonnyguru forums.

[jonnyGURU]

16 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

d) and do companies tell consumers our PSU is made by this or that brand openly?
yes a newbie and naive at that, again sorry for trouble.

There are such things as power supply reviews.  You read those.

 

[Orian Pax]

Just now, jonnyGURU said:

There are such things as power supply reviews.  You read those.

 

didn't expect a legend to reply on my post.

but still a newbie here and was wondering if other people know a better way and @seon123 showed me one. thanks @seon123.

[Orian Pax]

19 minutes ago, seon123 said:

All of Seasonic's PSUs lack multi rail OCP. In the past (e.g. M12II 500W) they lied about having multi rail on the label, despite the PSU missing the protection. The S12 III seems to also lack OTP.

Even their highest end PSUs, the Prime, uses a crappy Hong Hua fan. In my desktop, it is the loudest part of the system, both under load and at idle.

hm now that makes me leveraging towards corsair AXI 1600 instead of Seasonic's prime series.
why do i need titanium lvl and 1600 watt at that? let's just go with i don't wanna change my psu for a decade.
(for what i want to do it reqires about 882 watts with calculators recommended wattage it's 932 and running for 16-17 hours a day gaming for most of time)

[Ankerson]

19 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

hm now that makes me leveraging towards corsair AXI 1600 instead of Seasonic's prime series.
why do i need titanium lvl and 1600 watt at that? let's just go with i don't wanna change my psu for a decade.
(for what i want to do it reqires about 882 watts with calculators recommended wattage it's 932 and running for 16-17 hours a day gaming for most of time)

 

MOST people don't buy the AXI 1600 because it's 1600W, they buy it because it's the best PSU you can buy today, and by far. It just happens to be 1600W.

 

Titanium is nice to have because it still holds 90%+ efficiency at idle (10% load) while others will drop well below that, dropping down to the low 80% or below depending. Computers are at idle MOST of the time unless they are shut down or gaming etc. Most normal use puts them into that 10% load range.

[Orian Pax]

7 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

 

MOST people don't buy the AXI 1600 because it's 1600W, they buy it because it's the best PSU you can buy today, and by far. It just happens to be 1600W.

 

Titanium is nice to have because it still holds 90%+ efficiency at idle (10% load) while others will drop well below that, dropping down to the low 80% or below depending. Computers are at idle MOST of the time unless they are shut down or gaming etc. Most normal use puts them into that 10% load range.

that was a very helpful input thanks for replying.
now i am gonna read this seasonic's controversy about safety, i wonder if i can find something about it on johnnyguru.

[Ankerson]

4 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

that was a very helpful input thanks for replying.
now i am gonna read this seasonic's controversy about safety, i wonder if i can find something about it on johnnyguru.

 

They just don't make a PSU with Multi-Rail OCP and that's fine as neither do MOST others, like almost all on the market today.

 

It's just an added feature really that's not really needed 98% of the time.

 

I wouldn't not get a PSU because it's not Multi-Rail OCP.

 

It's a nice feature to have if the PSU is 850W or over though.

 

 

[Orian Pax]

3 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

It's just an added feature really that's not really needed 98% of the time.

 

I wouldn't not get a PSU because it's not Multi-Rail OCP.

i see, i see now then i would look deeply into it.

 

4 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

It's a nice feature to have if the PSU is 850W or over though.

now this was a vimp (very important) bit of info that helps alot.

[Ankerson]

2 minutes ago, Kpp550 said:

i see, i see now then i would look deeply into it.

 

now this was a vimp (very important) bit of info that helps alot.

 

All 3 of mine I am running currently are Multi-Rail OCP, but they are all 850W and over.

 

All 3 have the option to change from Multi-Rail OCP to Single Rail OCP though.

[Juular]

14 hours ago, Kpp550 said:

why do i need titanium lvl and 1600 watt at that? let's just go with i don't wanna change my psu for a decade.

You can change a PSU 3-4 times in the span of 10 years for the price of AX1600i if you just get a good PSU with just enough wattage for your current build, 750-850W i assume. What's your build exactly ?

[Ankerson]

5 hours ago, Juular said:

You can change a PSU 3-4 times in the span of 10 years for the price of AX1600i if you just get a good PSU with just enough wattage for your current build, 750-850W i assume. What's your build exactly ?

 

2 Actually if he got the AXI 860W..(Sticking with the same feature set) Or HXI 850 for that matter at current pricing etc.

[Juular]

13 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

2 Actually if he got the AXI 860W..(Sticking with the same feature set) Or HXI 850 for that matter at current pricing etc.

I were more talking about RM-x but okay, if you buy HX850i today for 225$ and an equivalent of it five years later (ignoring the fact that i still will be okay by this time so there will be no need to replace it) for say 250$ then you'll still have about 100-150$ left by the 2030 ... I mean, AX1600i is a great PSU, but you don't need a 560$ 1600W PSU if you don't need 1600W in the first place, and even if you do, 560$ IMO is way too expensive regardless of how great it is.

[Ankerson]

43 minutes ago, Juular said:

I were more talking about RM-x but okay, if you buy HX850i today for 225$ and an equivalent of it five years later (ignoring the fact that i still will be okay by this time so there will be no need to replace it) for say 250$ then you'll still have about 100-150$ left by the 2030 ... I mean, AX1600i is a great PSU, but you don't need a 560$ 1600W PSU if you don't need 1600W in the first place, and even if you do, 560$ IMO is way too expensive regardless of how great it is.

 

The prices will come back down again on the high end models once things start to normalize sometime in 2021.

 

The Price on the AXI 1600 went up quite a bit from were it was before, a lot like over $100..

 

Was more in line with the AXI 1500 price wise...

 

 

[jonnyGURU]

2 hours ago, Ankerson said:

 

The prices will come back down again on the high end models once things start to normalize sometime in 2021.

 

The Price on the AXI 1600 went up quite a bit from were it was before, a lot like over $100..

 

Was more in line with the AXI 1500 price wise...

 

 

I wouldn't be too sure of that. The price went up when Trump slapped 25% tariffs on Chinese goods.  As long as that tariff stands, prices are going to stay high.  At least in the U.S., of course.

 

[Ankerson]

16 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

I wouldn't be too sure of that. The price went up when Trump slapped 25% tariffs on Chinese goods.  As long as that tariff stands, prices are going to stay high.  At least in the U.S., of course.

 

 

People can hope though.

[wall03]

1 minute ago, Ankerson said:

 

People can hope though.

hope might not be enough

[Ankerson]

1 minute ago, wall03 said:

hope might not be enough

 

Try to think positive. 

[-rascal-]

On 12/1/2020 at 11:17 AM, Kpp550 said:

hm now that makes me leveraging towards corsair AXI 1600 instead of Seasonic's prime series.
why do i need titanium lvl and 1600 watt at that? let's just go with i don't wanna change my psu for a decade.
(for what i want to do it reqires about 882 watts with calculators recommended wattage it's 932 and running for 16-17 hours a day gaming for most of time)

 

A PSUs internal components will degrade over time.

Doesn't matter if it's a $1000+ 80 PLUS Titanium PSU, or a $200 80 PLUS Gold.

You are better to buy a PSU that will suit the build you are assembling, and replace it every major system upgrade, etc.

 

@Juular@Ankerson

The Corsair RMx and HX / HXi both have a 10-year warranty.

Sooo...in a way, the PSU doesn't need to be replaced in that 10-year span 

[Ankerson]

26 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

A PSUs internal components will degrade over time.

Doesn't matter if it's a $1000+ 80 PLUS Titanium PSU, or a $200 80 PLUS Gold.

You are better to buy a PSU that will suit the build you are assembling, and replace it every major system upgrade, etc.

 

@Juular@Ankerson

The Corsair RMx and HX / HXi both have a 10-year warranty.

Sooo...in a way, the PSU doesn't need to be replaced in that 10-year span 

 

That wasn't the point really, yes they do degrade over time and I believe we know what the warranty periods are of the said PSUs.

 

The OP was asking about the supposed 1600W Seasonic that never happened.

 

Then the Titanium rating and Multi-Rail OCP.

 

The cost really isn't a factor here when looking at the high end units, especially the Titanium rated models as they are all expensive.

 

And I went into why Titanium rated could be important to some.

 

Performance and quality are really the issues and what's important here, cost is irrelevant for this topic anyway.

 

That's how we got into the AXI 1600 as an example.

 

It is the best of the best hands down, no contest, top of the heap of PSUs.

 

Now it would be nice of Corsair would make a 1200W vers with all of the same technology that's in the AXI 1600, but they don't, the 1600W is it and the only choice currently.

 

Another option would be the EVGA T2 1600W, very high quality also.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Orian Pax]

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