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My brand new gaming pc, because my old one dissapeared from my desk, idk how

Budget (including currency): currently i have mustered deals, $600 usd- can squeeze to 700-800

Country: Illinois, USA 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: mostly light games, like roblox, minecraft, and in the furture fortnite, world of tanks, war thunder, alot of free to play military and fps games.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

i have gotten a existing build plan, my dad wants to get a itx board, he does not care bout the case, so i like the design of the 4000d, i already got a moniter planned to buy, lg ultragear 1080p for 399.99 and 1440p version for 349.99 black friday oh yea, heres my plan so far, i have foun  huge deals on ebay, amazon, best buy, you name it, do not worry bout it, just try to keep in the budget, better value, more better for now 1080p gaming, but i do have xbox one x, ive been using my 37" 1080 60hz tv from 2013 for so long, it has served me very well

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WGryF8

i think that this is good, but it says i will have bios issues, this true?????

also have micro center near me

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1 minute ago, ComputerBuilder said:

this is a generic link

Things I need help with:

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none atm

 

I hate Intel's pricing, Ryzen's weird quirks, Nvidia's pricing, and Radeon GPUs in general

 

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Products I like:

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Sony Xperia Z1 / Z2 / 10 ii, Asus Strix 970 / 1070, Samsung SSD, WD HDD, Corsair PSUs (AX, RM, CX(grey)), GeForce GPU, NZXT N450/S340, be quiet! Coolers, G.Skill Trident RAM, Logitech M525, Logitech G440, Razer Deathadder Elite

 

Products I hate:

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Xperia Z3, XiaoMi 5c, Radeon GPUs, Razer Audio Products, any bloatwares

 

Companies I absolutely adore: (and hope it stays that way)

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be quiet! - sent me AM4 mounting for my DRP3 even though it's way past the timeframe stated, no questions asked

Corsair - very good RMA experience, absolutely recommend

 

Companies I hate:

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Nvidia, Intel, Apple, TMT (Thundermatch, a retailer)

 

Personal Blacklisted Companies:

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Acer: shit tier quality products, shit tier customer service thus far, they "tried" to solve my issue but they arent really doing anything but delaying and delaying. (on-going case since July)

Gigabyte: horrible customer service (gigabyte had literally 0 customer service, asked me to go to retailer with NO WAY to email them about a question) but at least they fixed my shit in ONE MONTH (would probably take me 1 hour to fix if they let me email them)

XiaoMi Phones: built like a tank but the software is buggy as all hell

Seagate HDD: had too many dead seagate drives

Kingston SSD: 300V controller swap thingy

Razer (except their mouse)

 

Remember, just because I had good/bad experiences with these companies/product, doesn't mean you will have similar experiences too. I would still recommend these products if they made sense for your needs, but I'll add a disclaimer of my experience if it's relevant. Feel free to DM me asking why they are where they are.

 

 

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here it is

 

 

my previous build was a pc for free dads work, 500gb 3gb/s sata, upgraded h61 chipset i7-2600s, hp carmel mobo, pny gt 630 that thing served me fucking well

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1 minute ago, ComputerBuilder said:

yea b450 might not support ryzen 3000 out of the box, so you need to check if it's compatible

MSI's MAX lineup (ie, b450 tomahawk MAX) is ryzen 3000 ready.

 

all in all, looks like a decent build, assuming you have the 980ti already.

you can get windows key from a cheaper source, if you'd like

Things I need help with:

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none atm

 

I hate Intel's pricing, Ryzen's weird quirks, Nvidia's pricing, and Radeon GPUs in general

 

Spoiler

 

Products I like:

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Sony Xperia Z1 / Z2 / 10 ii, Asus Strix 970 / 1070, Samsung SSD, WD HDD, Corsair PSUs (AX, RM, CX(grey)), GeForce GPU, NZXT N450/S340, be quiet! Coolers, G.Skill Trident RAM, Logitech M525, Logitech G440, Razer Deathadder Elite

 

Products I hate:

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Xperia Z3, XiaoMi 5c, Radeon GPUs, Razer Audio Products, any bloatwares

 

Companies I absolutely adore: (and hope it stays that way)

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be quiet! - sent me AM4 mounting for my DRP3 even though it's way past the timeframe stated, no questions asked

Corsair - very good RMA experience, absolutely recommend

 

Companies I hate:

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Nvidia, Intel, Apple, TMT (Thundermatch, a retailer)

 

Personal Blacklisted Companies:

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Acer: shit tier quality products, shit tier customer service thus far, they "tried" to solve my issue but they arent really doing anything but delaying and delaying. (on-going case since July)

Gigabyte: horrible customer service (gigabyte had literally 0 customer service, asked me to go to retailer with NO WAY to email them about a question) but at least they fixed my shit in ONE MONTH (would probably take me 1 hour to fix if they let me email them)

XiaoMi Phones: built like a tank but the software is buggy as all hell

Seagate HDD: had too many dead seagate drives

Kingston SSD: 300V controller swap thingy

Razer (except their mouse)

 

Remember, just because I had good/bad experiences with these companies/product, doesn't mean you will have similar experiences too. I would still recommend these products if they made sense for your needs, but I'll add a disclaimer of my experience if it's relevant. Feel free to DM me asking why they are where they are.

 

 

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ok, ill need another itx mobo, but i an do some modern bios, i done the simple old shit

also, is the rest of the build ok?

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9 minutes ago, ComputerBuilder said:

my dad wants to get a itx board, he does not care bout the case

but... why? So it's still going to take up ATX system worth of space with expansion options of an mITX board.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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HMMMMMMMMM, that is a point, i could matx, but i think hes gonna change the case chice, but dont worry ill definitly use p4000d, i only need 1 pci-e, and 2 slots of ram, i think its because this is the first time im building a pc from SCRATCH, not just upgrading a desktop, but those other pc have served me well, so well, the expirince has been great, but imagine 1440p and 144hz, oooooooooooo that is some damage

 

also i do not plan overclocking anything, i just want a pc that can play games, ive never seena over 100p\fps game i dont think, or a 1080 pmax setting game

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Where is the 980ti from? How much are you paying for it?

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ebay, am paying like 200-175 lowest, i like the dual design, plus ive never played fortnite pc, only box, so yea i want to upgrade from xbox one x

 

 

On 11/27/2020 at 9:59 PM, jaslion said:

Where is the 980ti from? How much are you paying for it?

ebay, am paying like 200-175 lowest, i like the dual design, plus ive never played fortnite pc, only box, so yea i want to upgrade from xbox one x

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Just now, ComputerBuilder said:

ebay, am paying like 200-175 lowest, i like the dual design, plus ive never played fortnite pc, only box, so yea i want to upgrade from xbox one x

Keep in mind that new 250$ cards match the performance of that card and it is already on the older side too. I wouldn't go for it unless you get an amazing deal. Also keep in mind most of them if not all have dried up thermal paste by now so they need that refreshed.

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oh holy shit the prices raised, but i will find

 

On 11/27/2020 at 10:03 PM, jaslion said:

Keep in mind that new 250$ cards match the performance of that card and it is already on the older side too. I wouldn't go for it unless you get an amazing deal. Also keep in mind most of them if not all have dried up thermal paste by now so they need that refreshed.

ye sik that, i was originally planning 660 ti, because ppl used it for $200 gaaming build and 60fps high settings fornite 1080p, so i might get an 780 ti, they dropped

 

On 11/27/2020 at 10:03 PM, jaslion said:

Keep in mind that new 250$ cards match the performance of that card and it is already on the older side too. I wouldn't go for it unless you get an amazing deal. Also keep in mind most of them if not all have dried up thermal paste by now so they need that refreshed.

also i found 780 ti for $100 they dropped, 980 ti raised, i dont wanna spend money on 1660 ti, i dont like how much they cost for the performance of 6gb, when i can get 1070 ti for that much or 1070

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2 minutes ago, ComputerBuilder said:

ye sik that, i was originally planning 660 ti, because ppl used it for $200 gaaming build and 60fps high settings fornite 1080p, so i might get an 780 ti, they dropped

Oooor you know you just get one of these (listed from worst to best) gtx 970, r9 290, r9 290x/r9 390/rx470/rx570, r9 390x, amd fury/gtx 980,rx480/gtx1060/rx580 gtx 980ti/gtx1070/vega56.

 

The gtx 1660ti falls at the 1070 performance level. 780ti should not even be considered due to the low amount of vram.

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i know that, but i like 970, because 4gb, and 780 ti price, it will be good, cpu ryzen 5 3600 fine, im scared to used zen+, so ryzen 5 here we go, ebay 136.99 ryzen 5 3600 brand new free shipping

 

and i can find deals evreywhere, so 600 was a price i found a week ago, but the dam prices have blown up because Black friday

 

On 11/27/2020 at 10:07 PM, jaslion said:

Oooor you know you just get one of these (listed from worst to best) gtx 970, r9 290, r9 290x/r9 390/rx470/rx570, r9 390x, amd fury/gtx 980,rx480/gtx1060/rx580 gtx 980ti/gtx1070/vega56.

 

The gtx 1660ti falls at the 1070 performance level. 780ti should not even be considered due to the low amount of vram.

 know that, but i like 970, because 4gb, and 780 ti price, it will be good, cpu ryzen 5 3600 fine, im scared to used zen+, so ryzen 5 here we go, ebay 136.99 ryzen 5 3600 brand new free shipping

 

On 11/27/2020 at 10:07 PM, jaslion said:

Oooor you know you just get one of these (listed from worst to best) gtx 970, r9 290, r9 290x/r9 390/rx470/rx570, r9 390x, amd fury/gtx 980,rx480/gtx1060/rx580 gtx 980ti/gtx1070/vega56.

 

The gtx 1660ti falls at the 1070 performance level. 780ti should not even be considered due to the low amount of vram.

and i can find deals evreywhere, so 600 of build was a price i found a week ago, but the dam prices have blown up because Black friday

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Just now, ComputerBuilder said:

 know that, but i like 970, because 4gb, and 780 ti price, it will be good, cpu ryzen 5 3600 fine, im scared to used zen+, so ryzen 5 here we go, ebay 136.99 ryzen 5 3600 brand new free shipping

Euhm why not get a rx580 or 480? same price as the 970 but a bit better and they have the full 4gb of vram or even 8gb depending on what you get. The 970 is not a gpu I can recommend to get anymore as a lot of games use the 512mb of vram that is defective on every 970 making the performance tank.

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On 11/27/2020 at 10:07 PM, jaslion said:

Oooor you know you just get one of these (listed from worst to best) gtx 970, r9 290, r9 290x/r9 390/rx470/rx570, r9 390x, amd fury/gtx 980,rx480/gtx1060/rx580 gtx 980ti/gtx1070/vega56.

 

The gtx 1660ti falls at the 1070 performance level. 780ti should not even be considered due to the low amount of vram.

i might go back to gaming on my old laptop with a athlon 2 core, it fucking held up, i used winndows 7 until 2020, i gonna upgrade windows 10 and get a phenom in it

 

On 11/27/2020 at 10:13 PM, jaslion said:

Euhm why not get a rx580 or 480? same price as the 970 but a bit better and they have the full 4gb of vram or even 8gb depending on what you get. The 970 is not a gpu I can recommend to get anymore as a lot of games use the 512mb of vram that is defective on every 970 making the performance tank.

512gb vram, wtf happend, i like geforce because it has pushed on for me so far, the radeon i had in 2015 just fucking fried, i ut on therma aste, so i dont trust radeon, i only trust the 5700 xt and crap like that,maybe 580 and 480, but i just feel better with a nvidia

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On 11/27/2020 at 10:14 PM, ComputerBuilder said:

i might go back to gaming on my old laptop with a athlon 2 core, it fucking held up, i used winndows 7 until 2020, i gonna upgrade windows 10 and get a phenom in it

You know that the gpu in there most likely won't work on windows 10 right? Those things are a decade old and don't have driver support anymore so they rely on a basic display adapter driver from ms which makes 3d aplications basically impossible to use

 

On 11/27/2020 at 10:16 PM, ComputerBuilder said:

512gb vram, wtf happend, i like geforce because it has pushed on for me so far, the radeon i had in 2015 just fucking fried, i ut on therma aste, so i dont trust radeon, i only trust the 5700 xt and crap like that,maybe 580 and 480, but i just feel better with a nvidia

The 970 has a manufacturing defect which causes the last 512mb of ram on the card to be really really slow which when used in games makes the card perform terrible. This is why I recommend other cards. The 580 and 480 are very very solid cards.

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1 minute ago, ComputerBuilder said:

i show u model, https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c02497777

this shit held up, with whatever i hit at it, i fucking used it so much, i do complain videos not smooth, but oh boi it fucking  HELD UP

Yeah no driver support for that in windows 10 so basically most it can do is internet and office stuff

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which it will do for the rest of its peacful life

On 11/27/2020 at 10:21 PM, jaslion said:

Yeah no driver support for that in windows 10 so basically most it can do is internet and office stuff

 

 

On 11/27/2020 at 10:13 PM, jaslion said:

Euhm why not get a rx580 or 480? same price as the 970 but a bit better and they have the full 4gb of vram or even 8gb depending on what you get. The 970 is not a gpu I can recommend to get anymore as a lot of games use the 512mb of vram that is defective on every 970 making the performance tank.

what u mean by 512mb of vram, its 4gb

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3 minutes ago, ComputerBuilder said:

what u mean by 512mb of vram, its 4gb

The card has 4gb of vram however of those 4gb 0.5gb is defective and runs far slower. When a game uses this ram after filling up the 3.5gb of fast ram the performance of the card goes down a lot and the framerate in games drops rapidly. Nowadays it is very common (even for fortnite) to use over 3gb of vram at a minimum easily for games so that bad 0.5gb of vram is getting accessed often and leads to poor performance.

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yes, season 4 fornite was like 6gb storage, now its 32gb of storage much more demanding, so i see why 480 or 580, but i see feel like getting gtx 980 ti if DEAL, but tbh, i havent seen fornite on high setting s in YEARS, because lost xbox live memebership, so i feel like low settings no effect, so i will take a radeon for now, but deals await

 

On 11/27/2020 at 10:33 PM, ComputerBuilder said:

yes, season 4 fornite was like 6gb storage, now its 32gb of storage much more demanding, so i see why 480 or 580, but i see feel like getting gtx 980 ti if DEAL, but tbh, i havent seen fornite on high setting s in YEARS, because lost xbox live memebership, so i feel like low settings no effect, so i will take a radeon for now, but deals await

plus my dad said $200 cpu budget, and $200 gpu budget, so that is alot of breathing room

 

On 11/27/2020 at 10:31 PM, jaslion said:

The card has 4gb of vram however of those 4gb 0.5gb is defective and runs far slower. When a game uses this ram after filling up the 3.5gb of fast ram the performance of the card goes down a lot and the framerate in games drops rapidly. Nowadays it is very common (even for fortnite) to use over 3gb of vram at a minimum easily for games so that bad 0.5gb of vram is getting accessed often and leads to poor performance.

but wait a minute, im puting in a phenom 4 core into the laptop, so would that fix driver problem, its intergrated grpahics, no gpu

 

On 11/27/2020 at 10:31 PM, jaslion said:

The card has 4gb of vram however of those 4gb 0.5gb is defective and runs far slower. When a game uses this ram after filling up the 3.5gb of fast ram the performance of the card goes down a lot and the framerate in games drops rapidly. Nowadays it is very common (even for fortnite) to use over 3gb of vram at a minimum easily for games so that bad 0.5gb of vram is getting accessed often and leads to poor performance.

WAIT IT DOES HAVE A GPU, no wonder it served me so well

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11 minutes ago, ComputerBuilder said:

but wait a minute, im puting in a phenom 4 core into the laptop, so would that fix driver problem, its intergrated grpahics, no gpu

No

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Just now, ComputerBuilder said:

welp i kinda wanna get a 1070, but if u insist 580

 

2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

No

is all my other stuff ok?

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