Should I enable X.M.P?

[Dr3bb2]

Should I enable X.M.P? Cuz I don't know if I should enable it. I don't want to break my computer. Please tell me if you need any more information.

[Abdullah Bhutta]

1 minute ago, Dr3bb2 said:

Should I enable X.M.P? Cuz I don't know if I should enable it. I don't want to break my computer. Please tell me if you need any more information.

what it the frequency of ram?

[Abdullah Bhutta]

You must enable XMP, its totally worth it

[boggy77]

yes, in most cases you should. what is your cpu, motherboard and ram? in which slots did you place you ram?

[bmx6454]

3 minutes ago, Dr3bb2 said:

t. I don't want to break my computer

typically the worse case scenario is the oc is unstable and you just need to clear the cmos to boot again. so, it's pretty risk free imo to enable it.

[Dr3bb2]

1 minute ago, Abdullah Bhutta said:

what it the frequency of ram?

2666mhz. I have already set it to 2666mhz in the bios.

[Dr3bb2]

Just now, bmx6454 said:

typically the worse case scenario is the oc is unstable and you just need to clear the cmos to boot again. so, it's pretty risk free imo to enable it.

Alright

[Dr3bb2]

1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

yes, in most cases you should. what is your cpu, motherboard and ram? in which slots did you place you ram?

ASUS prime Z390-A, Intel I-9 9900k, TEAMGROUP Elite Plus DDR4 16GB Kit (2 x 8GB) 2666M  DIMM_A1 and DIMM_B1

[Drama Lama]

24 minutes ago, Dr3bb2 said:

I don't want to break my computer

why shouldn't you? it's 99.9999% safe and in case anything goes wrong you can always clear the cmos

[Dr3bb2]

48 minutes ago, Abdullah Bhutta said:

You must enable XMP, its totally worth it

It says this whenever I try to turn it on.

[Bad5ector]

Trick question really. On my Intel system, I have not had an issue once running XMP.

 

On my AMD system, enabling it results in power no POST. I have to manually set the timings to match what my CPU and Motherboard support which isn't as fast as the XMP profile on the RAM says. (3200mhz XMP, max supported by this system is 2933 and I have to manually set it).

 

At the end of the day, you won't brick your system if you enable XMP. At worst it won't boot until you clear CMOS and start again, or maybe your system will take longer to boot the first time you set XMP as the motherboard trains itself for the new speeds. Other than that it is totally safe to enable.

Whether you should or not is a different story. I mean I'm all for performance increases where ever you can get them, but if this system isn't doing anything crazy like say an HTPC or just a web browser, then you can probably ignore XMP entirely.

 

And sidenote, enabling XMP voids Intel Warranty, so if you ever have to RMA your CPU, be sure to say you never used XMP

[Dr3bb2]

8 minutes ago, Bad5ector said:

Trick question really. On my Intel system, I have not had an issue once running XMP.

 

On my AMD system, enabling it results in power no POST. I have to manually set the timings to match what my CPU and Motherboard support which isn't as fast as the XMP profile on the RAM says. (3200mhz XMP, max supported by this system is 2933 and I have to manually set it).

 

At the end of the day, you won't brick your system if you enable XMP. At worst it won't boot until you clear CMOS and start again, or maybe your system will take longer to boot the first time you set XMP as the motherboard trains itself for the new speeds. Other than that it is totally safe to enable.

Whether you should or not is a different story. I mean I'm all for performance increases where ever you can get them, but if this system isn't doing anything crazy like say an HTPC or just a web browser, then you can probably ignore XMP entirely.

 

And sidenote, enabling XMP voids Intel Warranty, so if you ever have to RMA your CPU, be sure to say you never used XMP

Alright, I'm not going to enable it, because I don't want to void Intels warranty. I do not have enough money to replace a cpu.

[Bad5ector]

Just now, Dr3bb2 said:

Alright, I'm not going to enable it, because I don't want to void Intels warranty. I do not have enough money to replace a cpu.

I mean, I wouldn't worry about that too much. Just something to be aware of if you ever have to send the CPU in for RMA / Warranty claim. IF they ask you if you used XMP, just say no... AFAIK they won't be able to tell otherwise.

 

Also, I can count on my hand how many genuinely bad CPUs I have ever experienced on my hand. Honestly almost any other part of the system will die first unless you are doing some crazy isssh with it.

[-rascal-]

2 hours ago, Dr3bb2 said:

Alright, I'm not going to enable it, because I don't want to void Intels warranty. I do not have enough money to replace a cpu.

 

Gamers' Nexus did their own "under cover" investigation on this...about X.M.P. and Intel's warranty.

They called Intel's Customer Support (multiple times, different Intel reps) about a dead CPU, and enabling X.M.P.

Basically, Intel will still replace / warranty the CPU.

 

I had to RMA my $500 i7-6800K earlier this year -- RMA ended up being a full refund.

They asked if X.M.P. was enabled or not, and I went with the honest route, and said yes.

Told me the copy-paste enabling X.M.P. voids warranty...but they accepted it anyways.

So....

 

[G9XFTW]

For the first time in a long time I'm setting it to AUTO. Because I don't see much performance difference in my ryzen build. 2400mhz. 

[BTGbullseye]

12 hours ago, Bad5ector said:

On my AMD system, enabling it results in power no POST. I have to manually set the timings to match what my CPU and Motherboard support which isn't as fast as the XMP profile on the RAM says. (3200mhz XMP, max supported by this system is 2933 and I have to manually set it).

So.. You're running 1st gen Ryzen, which are notorious for their memory compatibility issues. (the sloppier the timings, the less compatible) This was partially fixed with the 2nd gen, and completely fixed with the 3000 series.

[Bad5ector]

6 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

So.. You're running 1st gen Ryzen,

Is a 2400g first gen? Didn't think that was the case. Not sure what your point is though regardless. I still can't run DOCP on my HTPC lol.

 

Edit: you are right, it is definitely first gen Zen. But my point is still the same, I can't just flip on DOCP (XMP) and call it a day.

[BTGbullseye]

14 hours ago, Bad5ector said:

Is a 2400g first gen? Didn't think that was the case.

Yes, it is.

14 hours ago, Bad5ector said:

Not sure what your point is though regardless. I still can't run DOCP on my HTPC lol.

If you upgrade to a Zen 2 CPU, that problem will go away.

14 hours ago, Bad5ector said:

Edit: you are right, it is definitely first gen Zen. But my point is still the same, I can't just flip on DOCP (XMP) and call it a day.

That's because you're using low quality RAM in a system that has a CPU that's extremely sensitive to RAM quality.

[Bad5ector]

32 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

If you upgrade to a Zen 2 CPU, that problem will go away.

Why would I want to? I'm not posting here saying PLS help me get my RAM at X speed? I was simply trying to make a point that XMP doesn't always work.  And I think you are doing nothing but reinforcing that statement.

 

For my HTPC that spends the majority of the time turned off because I switched to an Nvidia Shield I would not invest in Zen 2 just so I could enable DOCP. That would be absolutely absurd. Maybe if I decide to repurpose the system for something else in the future I may consider it.

[Mister Woof]

On 10/19/2020 at 10:36 AM, Dr3bb2 said:

Alright, I'm not going to enable it, because I don't want to void Intels warranty. I do not have enough money to replace a cpu.

They will only know of you tell them fyi

[Mister Woof]

2 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Yes, it is.

If you upgrade to a Zen 2 CPU, that problem will go away.

That's because you're using low quality RAM in a system that has a CPU that's extremely sensitive to RAM quality.

Not necessarily. Friends 3800x x570 tuff wouldn't work on a corsair 3200mhz kit xmp without manual settings

[BTGbullseye]

1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

Not necessarily. Friends 3800x x570 tuff wouldn't work on a corsair 3200mhz kit xmp without manual settings

Which kit? The worse the quality of the chips, the harder it is to get it to work. Also, XMP settings can be wrong.

[Mister Woof]

13 minutes ago, BTGbullseye said:

Which kit? The worse the quality of the chips, the harder it is to get it to work. Also, XMP settings can be wrong.

Was a corsair lpx. Probably sk hynix junk

[BTGbullseye]

2 hours ago, Mister Woof said:

Was a corsair lpx. Probably sk hynix junk

Yeah, LPX is notorious for its incompatibility with Ryzen.