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Ali express deal or not

I live in a poor country and I want a pc for gaming and light video editing.

I've found this cpu+motherboard+ram combo on aliexpress

 

https://es.aliexpress.com/item/33049336695.html?spm=a2g0o.detail.1000013.7.67192c77wdcd7f&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller&scm=1007.13339.169870.0&scm_id=1007.13339.169870.0&scm-url=1007.13339.169870.0&pvid=1a97db62-ad8b-469c-a5a5-11c2c3a7acbf&_t=gps-id:pcDetailBottomMoreThisSeller,scm-url:1007.13339.169870.0,pvid:1a97db62-ad8b-469c-a5a5-11c2c3a7acbf,tpp_buckets:668%230%23131923%2367_668%23808%233772%23935_668%23888%233325%2312_668%232846%238109%23289_668%232717%237562%23492_668%231000022185%231000066058%230_668%233468%2315608%23132

 

Should I buy it? or is it a scam?

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Aliexpress is a huge scam, if you watch linus you will know what I mean

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2 minutes ago, Ankh tech tips said:

Aliexpress is a huge scam

Not really, if you know what your doing and don't buy things that are too good to be true, it could be a good place to find cheap parts. 

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In my country(romania) the cpu and memory prices are ok, but the motherboard prices are awful. Linus reviewed a motherboard from chinacevajmke.thumb.PNG.219665a2edefb49ff8ad4e9fc88088ba.PNG

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Just now, NetherSand said:

In my country(romania) the cpu and memory prices are ok, but the motherboard prices are awful. Linus reviewed a motherboard from china

That looks like a scam 

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1 minute ago, The Sloth said:

That looks like a scam 

Yeah, mobo, cpu, and ram together for that price no way

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NVME and DDR3...what are these clown brands?

 

 

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1 minute ago, Mooshi said:

NVME and DDR3...what are these clown brands?

I know that the product page isn't the best. But is it a scam?

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5 minutes ago, NetherSand said:

I know that the product page isn't the best. But is it a scam?

probably fake and even if not, this is a trash motherboard

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Linus reviewed it and it's not a scam.

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19 minutes ago, Mooshi said:

NVME and DDR3...what are these clown brands?

WHAT? those are not brands...

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It's not a "scam", it will likely run, but it's a bit of a lottery whether it's actually to the expectations or not. 

Don't buy these things if you can't afford throwing them away if they're useless.

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Ok.

Just another thing. I have the option to buy this workstation https://www.diabloscomputer.ro/workstation-second-hand-lenovo-thinkstation-s30-xeon-e5-1620 with:

 

RAM: 16gb

HDD: 500gb

CPU: e5-1620

and upgrade  the cpu with a e5 2670 (8 core) (total 1200 lei / 288$)

 

OR

 

upgrade my current pc

 

RAM:4gb

CPU: i7 920

HDD: 1tb

 

with 8 gb of ram and a x5675 (6 core) for the total of (total 750 lei/150$)

 

I will be using some second hand rx 580 or something

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9 hours ago, TheNaitsyrk said:

Linus reviewed it and it's not a scam.

unlike Linus OP is poor,so replacing hardware if it's a scam/ defective will be very hard. 

 

1 hour ago, NetherSand said:

Just another thing. I have the option to buy this workstation https://www.diabloscomputer.ro/workstation-second-hand-lenovo-thinkstation-s30-xeon-e5-1620 with:

 

That looks good, you can throw in a PCIE 1050 and make it a good work/gaming station. 

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10 hours ago, NetherSand said:

Linus reviewed a motherboard from china

He picks bad ones deliberately.

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9 hours ago, Mooshi said:

NVME and DDR3...what are these clown brands?

They are reclaimed component motherboards. As large companies are getting rid of old gear (typically X58, X79 and X99 server equivalents), a few enterprising folks are recovering the chipsets and re-working them into a new motherboard design, adding more modern features like USB3 and nvme support. Excellent up-cycling. There is nothing fake, or "clown" about them.

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10 hours ago, The Sloth said:

Not really, if you know what your doing and don't buy things that are too good to be true, it could be a good place to find cheap parts. 

No different to ebay, really.

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10 hours ago, NetherSand said:

I live in a poor country and I want a pc for gaming and light video editing.

I've found this cpu+motherboard+ram combo on aliexpress

 

[Snip X79 stuff]

Plenty of people do, but honestly, X79 is not as cost effective as it was 1-2 years ago. It's more economical to get a low-end modern setup. Some of the X99 deals are "ok", but I'm not sure I'd start from scratch with that. I buy X58-era stuff still, but that's because I have, or keep being given, X58-era components to build around.

 

Those bundles are not rip-offs though, they just aren't quite as great as they once were, cost wise.

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2 hours ago, TehDwonz said:

Plenty of people do, but honestly, X79 is not as cost effective as it was 1-2 years ago. It's more economical to get a low-end modern setup. Some of the X99 deals are "ok", but I'm not sure I'd start from scratch with that. I buy X58-era stuff still, but that's because I have, or keep being given, X58-era components to build around.

 

Those bundles are not rip-offs though, they just aren't quite as great as they once were, cost wise.

I will wait te see if the ryzen 5 3600 will drop in price after the Zen3 arhitecture so I can finally afford it.

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Just now, NetherSand said:

I will wait te see if the ryzen 5 3600 will drop in price after the Zen3 arhitecture so I can finally afford it.

Or even some new ryzen 3 5300 . I'd love to see that

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1.) I shop aliexpress all the time, its not a scam

2.) those boards typically have PCIe 2.0 slots, so any modern graphics card will struggle (and the CPU has no iGPU iirc)

3.) Ive spent ALOT of time talking with the manufacturers of these boards, and have yet to pull the trigger.

4.) They arent scams

 

The ONLY reason I havent picked one up, is because (same combos) they are PCIe 2.0 and SATA 2.0 and the rare PCIe 3.0 is still SATA 2.0.  And they dont say whether the M.2 kills what SATA ports etc.

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