cooling a 3800x/t with hyper 212 black?

[hollyh88]

so has anyone tried to do this? cant really find many videos on it. probably because its pretty eh. special. 
and if so. have you tried overclocking?

what are the temps? 

 

[Zonal]

Just now, hollyh88 said:

so has anyone tried to do this? cant really find many videos on it. probably because its pretty eh. special. 
and if so. have you tried overclocking?

what are the temps? 

 

do you already have the cooler or are you planning on buying it?

[hollyh88]

1 minute ago, ZonalThrone said:

do you already have the cooler or are you planning on buying it?

as my specs list below. i have it and am using it. but im gathering information in different sub forums to see what i should go for next with my pc. and the 3800x or 3800xt (11 bucks more currently) is on my list now ::) and i would like to know what perf people see with that cooler and cpu.

[Zonal]

I'm interested too, i've been looking and from what i've seen overclocking won't be a good idea but i think it would be fine for normal use. 

[Fasauceome]

8 minutes ago, ZonalThrone said:

I'm interested too, i've been looking and from what i've seen overclocking won't be a good idea but i think it would be fine for normal use. 

currently cooling my overclocked 8086k with a black edition, the 3800X would fare well with a 212 black

[TVwazhere]

15 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

so has anyone tried to do this? cant really find many videos on it. probably because its pretty eh. special. 
and if so. have you tried overclocking?

what are the temps? 

 

9 minutes ago, ZonalThrone said:

I'm interested too, i've been looking and from what i've seen overclocking won't be a good idea but i think it would be fine for normal use. 

Temps on the 3800 shouldnt be far off of the XT

https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/by_part/qryV3C#h=196660

Was not able to find a 3800XT using any air cooler other than a Dark Base Pr0 4 though. That's not to say it's needed, it's just what people typically pair with it because they "wanna be safe" or "overkill" or have "headroom". 

[hollyh88]

Just now, ZonalThrone said:

I'm interested too, i've been looking and from what i've seen overclocking won't be a good idea but i think it would be fine for normal use. 

ive seen some videos where they cool a 3900x with it or simular and it seems to be holding up so idk

[ausham]

Looking at the 3800 TDP and the max temp Id say a 212 black would do. I know folks ran the OG 212 on 130w CPU back in the day. AS for the temps or head room, I could not say.

[SkilledRebuilds]

9 minutes ago, ausham said:

Looking at the 3800 TDP and the max temp Id say a 212 black would do. I know folks ran the OG 212 on 130w CPU back in the day. AS for the temps or head room, I could not say.

OG 212 non+ with notFlat heatpipes on the die...
2600K 4.8Ghz 125w+ easy win (sub90*c Max, 75-80Avg), only when chasing higher did the voltage needs go crazy and even slightly beefier coolers would strugglebus (load Maxtemps) at those volts.
 

[hollyh88]

11 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

currently cooling my overclocked 8086k with a black edition, the 3800X would fare well with a 212 black

Soo overclocking shouldnt be an issue? What about the 3800xt since it can draw more power.

[Jeppes]

35 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

Soo overclocking shouldnt be an issue? What about the 3800xt since it can draw more power.

Overclocking will be an issue with any cooler if you go too far. Reasonable overclocking with 3000-series ryzen 8-core will draw about the same power as oc'd 2000-series 6-core.

 

[hollyh88]

18 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

Overclocking will be an issue with any cooler if you go too far. Reasonable overclocking with 3000-series ryzen 8-core will draw about the same power as oc'd 2000-series 6-core.

 

So according to you. The temps should be around the ones I'm seeing with my 2600x at a constant 1.4 volts? And under max load? 

[Jeppes]

1 minute ago, hollyh88 said:

So according to you. The temps should be around the ones I'm seeing with my 2600x at a constant 1.4 volts? And under max load? 

Not the same as its 7nm but still reasonable and under 80C. And you can oc any cpu to over 100C if you go insane with voltages.

[Matt1632]

13 hours ago, hollyh88 said:

so has anyone tried to do this? cant really find many videos on it. probably because its pretty eh. special. 
and if so. have you tried overclocking?

what are the temps? 

 

I cooled my r7 3800x for the first 2 months of having it with a hyper 212 evo but found that it ran close to 90 degrees so switched to a darkrock pro 4

It will cope - think it is the same TDP as the Wraith RGB (stock cooler for the 3800x) but the larger fan does not need to run as fast and in theory should be more quiet.

[hollyh88]

34 minutes ago, Matt1632 said:

I cooled my r7 3800x for the first 2 months of having it with a hyper 212 evo but found that it ran close to 90 degrees so switched to a darkrock pro 4

It will cope - think it is the same TDP as the Wraith RGB (stock cooler for the 3800x) but the larger fan does not need to run as fast and in theory should be more quiet.

Was it the hyper 212 evo or hyper 212 black edition though?

 

Also keep in mind I live in the Netherlands and it gets around 13- 15 degrees c here now. + I have a pc case with 3 front fans 1 back fan and a push pull config on the hyper 212 black edition.

[hollyh88]

51 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

Not the same as its 7nm but still reasonable and under 80C. And you can oc any cpu to over 100C if you go insane with voltages.

My 2600x is when gaming around 61 degrees. And when under max load like cinebench r20 it gets around 73 degrees. But the thermal paste on it is now already a bit old. Maybe like 1 and a half years orso  

[miagisan]

If it helps, I have a 212 evo rgb on a 3600x.  Idles in the 30s and maxes out around 73c.  

[hollyh88]

1 hour ago, miagisan said:

If it helps, I have a 212 evo rgb on a 3600x.  Idles in the 30s and maxes out around 73c.  

it does thanks  the black should perform a bit better than yours. how many fans do you have in your case?

[hollyh88]

17 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

Temps on the 3800 shouldnt be far off of the XT

https://pcpartpicker.com/builds/by_part/qryV3C#h=196660

Was not able to find a 3800XT using any air cooler other than a Dark Base Pr0 4 though. That's not to say it's needed, it's just what people typically pair with it because they "wanna be safe" or "overkill" or have "headroom". 

so you think a 3800xt would be fine with a hyper 212 black?  

[TVwazhere]

2 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

so you think a 3800xt would be fine with a hyper 212 black?  

At stock yes. If you try to push it with an OC, or you're doing a lot of CPU intensive tasks constantly and aern't comfortable with the temps it sits at, then consider getting a larger cooler. 

[miagisan]

52 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

it does thanks  the black should perform a bit better than yours. how many fans do you have in your case?

Mine is the black rgb version so it would be fairly compatible.   I have 3x intake 120mm and 2xexhaust 120mm (all arctic p12 pwm pst fans)

[hollyh88]

3 hours ago, miagisan said:

Mine is the black rgb version so it would be fairly compatible.   I have 3x intake 120mm and 2xexhaust 120mm (all arctic p12 pwm pst fans)

Ohh okay that's good to know. so it will probably be a bit hotter but cooler when gaming I assume?

So that's good news! 

 

[hollyh88]

4 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

At stock yes. If you try to push it with an OC, or you're doing a lot of CPU intensive tasks constantly and aern't comfortable with the temps it sits at, then consider getting a larger cooler. 

How about ctr with it. Since ctr does oc with lower voltages in most cases. Would it then not be cooled enough by the 212 black edition?

 

[TVwazhere]

17 minutes ago, hollyh88 said:

How about ctr with it. Since ctr does oc with lower voltages in most cases. Would it then not be cooled enough by the 212 black edition?

Only way to know for sure is to try it out yourself. 

 

Remember: Dont buy anything until you're sure you have to. The best options are sometimes free (and since you already have the 212 black, that's your free option)

[hollyh88]

On 10/16/2020 at 8:51 PM, TVwazhere said:

Only way to know for sure is to try it out yourself.

i decided to wait till the whole far cry 6 deal was going so i bought it now. will be testing and seeing it tomorrow  will reply with an update then. 
the 2600x at 1.4v with 4.1 overclock takes i think 125w if i see it correctly and gets around 74c at a max cinebench run. do keep in mind tho that the thermal paste is pretty old on it already and well it is running at 4.1 if i can get the 3800xt to run at lower voltages and taking the improvements they mad from ryzen 2000 to ryzen 3000 i think it should be okay  but i will know it for sure tomorrow!

 

oh ps it runs around 61-63 degrees when gaming so thats pretty cool