Posted September 17, 2020 Hey guys, I'll try to keep this short. Because I am not completely familiar with this specific area of purpose built workstations I'm looking for some recommendations for a workstations PC build for a friend, that's going to be working mainly in programs such as SolidWorks. So far I was thinking about something like this: CPU: Something like the Intel Core i7-10700K OR AMD Ryzen 7 3700X - AMD is cheaper, but Intel prob has better single core performance, which is what you want specifically for SolidWorks.. AMD might be best for overall PC performance (plus the boards are cheaper) CPU Cooler: stock RAM: Probably going to go for 2 x 8GB (for now) DDR4-3200MHz+, can upgrade later Motherboard: A nice B450/B550 board OR similar Intel supported board Video Card: P1000 OR P2000 Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2 NVME Solid State Drive - can't go wrong with that Case: something like the NZXT H510 Power Supply: need a little help with choosing decent low wattage PSU's I am kindly asking for some advice! Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 17, 2020 Author Budget (including currency): $1000 +/- $150 Country: Slovenia, EUROPE (I don't mine you guys using USD, since US Dollars are roughly equal to Euros) Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Solidworks Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Hey guys, I'll try to keep this short.. Because I am not completely familiar with this specific area of purpose built workstations I'm looking for some recommendations for a workstations PC build for a friend, that's going to be working mainly in programs such as SolidWorks. So far I was thinking about something like this: CPU: Something like the Intel Core i7-10700K OR AMD Ryzen 7 3700X - AMD is cheaper, but Intel prob has better single core performance, which is what you want specifically for SolidWorks.. AMD might be best for overall PC performance (plus the boards are cheaper) CPU Cooler: stock RAM: Probably going to go for 2 x 8GB (for now) DDR4-3200MHz+, can upgrade later Motherboard: A nice B450/B550 board OR similar Intel supported board Video Card: P1000 OR P2000 Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2 NVME Solid State Drive - can't go wrong with that Case: something like the NZXT H510 Power Supply: need a little help with choosing decent low wattage PSU's I am kindly asking for some advice! Thank you in advance. P.S. I previously posted the same question in the general discussion thread, am deleting that one as we speak. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, gal-m said: Hey guys, I'll try to keep this short. Because I am not completely familiar with this specific area of purpose built workstations I'm looking for some recommendations for a workstations PC build for a friend, that's going to be working mainly in programs such as SolidWorks. So far I was thinking about something like this: CPU: Something like the Intel Core i7-10700K OR AMD Ryzen 7 3700X - AMD is cheaper, but Intel prob has better single core performance, which is what you want specifically for SolidWorks.. AMD might be best for overall PC performance (plus the boards are cheaper) CPU Cooler: stock RAM: Probably going to go for 2 x 8GB (for now) DDR4-3200MHz+, can upgrade later Motherboard: A nice B450/B550 board OR similar Intel supported board Video Card: P1000 OR P2000 Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2 NVME Solid State Drive - can't go wrong with that Case: something like the NZXT H510 Power Supply: need a little help with choosing decent low wattage PSU's I am kindly asking for some advice! Thank you in advance. The 10700k doesn't even have a stock cooler it needs a pretty decent unit to even cool well. For the gpu I do not recommend a P1000 or P2000 as these are pretty old now and consumer cards are overall faster now which kinda beats the purpose of these. That and they are really expensive. Solidworks GOBBLES UP ram like it's nobody's business. You really really really want as much as possible. PCPartPicker Part List Type Item Price CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor $429.99 @ Amazon CPU Cooler ARCTIC Freezer 33 CPU Cooler $24.99 @ Amazon Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $124.99 @ Best Buy Memory G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory $89.99 @ Newegg Storage ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $134.99 @ Amazon Case Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case $55.49 @ Newegg Power Supply Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $99.98 @ Newegg Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts Total $960.42 Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-17 17:00 EDT-0400 This leaves you 200 for a gpu. I would recommend snagging a rtx2000 series from ebay for pretty cheap now as that would fair better than the p1000 or 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, CircleTech said: The really important thing here is how complex will OPs models be? If they are like mine and just small renders for 3D printing and school, you probably need way less than you think. It's only after getting into fluid dynamics and stress simulations on really complicated objects do you need an actually good computer. That and if you slap on a fancy shader :p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 17, 2020 Author 7 minutes ago, James Evens said: Unless you need it right now/can wait a couple of month maybe wait for the 4/5gen. ryzen to launch and Intel response to it. Yeah, told him the same thing. We'll see what we can do. The thing is in my country PC parts are a lot more expensive than in the US, especially the newly released ones... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 17, 2020 Author 6 minutes ago, jaslion said: The 10700k doesn't even have a stock cooler it needs a pretty decent unit to even cool well. For the gpu I do not recommend a P1000 or P2000 as these are pretty old now and consumer cards are overall faster now which kinda beats the purpose of these. That and they are really expensive. Solidworks GOBBLES UP ram like it's nobody's business. You really really really want as much as possible. I know. I am really trying to avoid Intel as their CPU's are a lot more expensive. Not to mention the motherboards. We can try and push to 32GB. Which consumer cards are you talking about specifically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 17, 2020 Author 8 minutes ago, jaslion said: snagging a rtx2000 series from ebay for pretty cheap now as that would fair better than the p1000 or 2000. He probably won't like buying second hand, so I think that's not going to be possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 17, 2020 Just now, gal-m said: I know. I am really trying to avoid Intel as their CPU's are a lot more expensive. Not to mention the motherboards. We can try and push to 32GB. Which consumer cards are you talking about specifically? The build I posted is perfectly in budget and has 32gb of ram. You can always just drop the cpu to a 3700. The rtx 2060 is a good startingpoint and is really dropping in value right now on the used market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 17, 2020 1 minute ago, gal-m said: He probably won't like buying second hand, so I think that's not going to be possible. Well then drop the cpu to a 3700 and get a new 2060. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 17, 2020 Author 9 minutes ago, CircleTech said: The really important thing here is how complex will OPs models be? If they are like mine and just small renders for 3D printing and school, you probably need way less than you think. It's only after getting into fluid dynamics and stress simulations on really complicated objects do you need an actually good computer. I don't think fluid dynamics are going to be a problem anytime soon. For now things are looking quite simple. Will meet with him sometime this week so he can tell me in a bit more detail about what kind of stuff he works with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 17, 2020 Author 11 minutes ago, CircleTech said: Dual LGA 2011-1 workstations on eBay. You can deck out a workstation with 128GB of RAM for under $1000 easily assuming you are using ECC registered server memory. I LOVE LGA 2011. Typing from an X79 board atm. The thing is he won't like the whole used concept. So it's out of the question for now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 17, 2020 Author Hey @jaslion, @James Evens & @CircleTech thank you for all of your replies - I truly appreciate them. I do however need to mention I have probably posted this in the wrong thread, so I'm going to be linking you the same post, in the correct thread. Thanks for understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Posted September 17, 2020 Author 1 minute ago, SansVarnic said: Please do not multi-post topics just report your own topic and ask for it to be moved. Hey thanks for that. I didn't know that that could be done! Appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 18, 2020 Author So, he's going to be working with models such as this one in this YT video (video should start at around 24 minutes, if not, skip): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted September 18, 2020 Author https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3399-best-workstation-gpus-2018-for-adobe-premiere-autocad-vray-and-more In SolidWorks the P2000 is better than even an RTX 2080 Ti... Sorry I just find some of these recommendations a bit confusing. Can someone explain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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