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Should I get an RTX 2060 or a GTX 1080?

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Looking to build a computer next year, and just searching the market now.

 

Wondering if it's worth investing in a GTX 1080 or an RTX 2060.

 

I play Rocket League, Minecraft, Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order, SWTOR, KOSWTOR and Snowrunner.

 

Please don't respond by telling me about ampere and Big Navi. I just want a view of the currently available cards.

 

The rest of my build is:

Ryzen 5 3600

Not sure which motherboard

16gb DDR4 3200mhz / 3600mhz

600w/650w PSU 

AMD Wraith Prism

Corsair Spec 05 / other case under £45

 

What do you guys think is the best for its price and performance?

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CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

Case: Phanteks eclipse P400A

Motherboard: MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 TI Gaming X Trio

RAM: 16GB XPG D60G CL16 3200MHZ

PSU: Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero 650W

Storage: Crucial P2 1TB

 

 

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at least 2060 Super for 8GB frame buffer. 

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10 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

at least 2060 Super for 8GB frame buffer. 

the 1080 has 8GB tho

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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2060 unless you specifically need 8GB of VRAM.

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19 minutes ago, CloudPC said:

Looking to build a computer next year, and just searching the market now.

 

Wondering if it's worth investing in a GTX 1080 or an RTX 2060.

 

I play Rocket League, Minecraft, Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order, SWTOR, KOSWTOR and Snowrunner.

 

Please don't respond by telling me about ampere and Big Navi. I just want a view of the currently available cards.

 

The rest of my build is:

Ryzen 5 3600

Not sure which motherboard

16gb DDR4 3200mhz / 3600mhz

600w/650w PSU 

AMD Wraith Prism

Corsair Spec 05 / other case under £45

 

What do you guys think is the best for its price and performance?

I'd prefer the 2060 over 1080 because next year the 1080 will be old(imo)

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20 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

the 1080 has 8GB tho

I meant get 2060s or 1080 instead of 2060. 

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4 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

I meant get 2060s or 1080 instead of 2060. 

yeah but I think OP was considering cost and not vram

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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1 hour ago, Fasauceome said:

yeah but I think OP was considering cost and not vram

My two purposes of the card are gaming and video editing with Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects.

 

Cost is my main worry, but I don't know too much about how vram affects performance. I'm guessing the more vram the better the performance, but then some quadro cards with more vram won't beat the performance of say an RTX 2080 so I'm not really sure.

 

Can anyone explain and help me further?

System

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

Case: Phanteks eclipse P400A

Motherboard: MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 TI Gaming X Trio

RAM: 16GB XPG D60G CL16 3200MHZ

PSU: Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero 650W

Storage: Crucial P2 1TB

 

 

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4 minutes ago, CloudPC said:

My two purposes of the card are gaming and video editing with Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects.

 

Cost is my main worry, but I don't know too much about how vram affects performance. I'm guessing the more vram the better the performance, but then some quadro cards with more vram won't beat the performance of say an RTX 2080 so I'm not really sure.

 

Can anyone explain and help me further?

More vram is needed for more complex scenes and higher resolution, but there are plenty of workloads that won't necessarily benefit from 8GB if vram. Do you edit in 4K or something?

 

In terms of gaming, the 1080 is flat out better, not too sure in editing but I don't believe the Turing upgrades to render performance were good enough to push a mid range card above a high end card.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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5 minutes ago, Fasauceome said:

More vram is needed for more complex scenes and higher resolution, but there are plenty of workloads that won't necessarily benefit from 8GB if vram. Do you edit in 4K or something?

 

In terms of gaming, the 1080 is flat out better, not too sure in editing but I don't believe the Turing upgrades to render performance were good enough to push a mid range card above a high end card.

I don't edit in 4K at the moment as my current pc can not handle it. But I may start editing in 4K if I can without struggle. My workloads are not heavy.

 

I would like to play RTX Minecraft, but if having the 2060 weakens performance in other games I may be willing to give it up.

 

I think the other comments are right, I'm definitely going to wait for Ampere cards and hopefully the RTX 2070 or at least the RTX 2060 super is more affordable.

 

The game I most play is Rocket League, so what kinda performance should I expect from both cards. Bear in mind that I game in 1080p and I may move to 1440p but not 4k.

System

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

Case: Phanteks eclipse P400A

Motherboard: MSI B550 Gaming Carbon WiFi

GPU: MSI RTX 3060 TI Gaming X Trio

RAM: 16GB XPG D60G CL16 3200MHZ

PSU: Sharkoon SilentStorm Cool Zero 650W

Storage: Crucial P2 1TB

 

 

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2 minutes ago, CloudPC said:

The game I most play is Rocket League, so what kinda performance should I expect from both cards. Bear in mind that I game in 1080p and I may move to 1440p but not 4k.

The gaming performance for the 1080 is a lot better than the 2060, and I guess the only reason you'd prefer the 2060 would be Minecraft RTX.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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9 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

yeah but I think OP was considering cost and not vram

I don't care. If he buying the card just to play those games he listed then he's fine, else 6GB for a capable card like 2060 is a waste. I've seen some 2060 owners complained about stuttering when games actually use over 6GB in Monster Hunter. 

 

8 hours ago, CloudPC said:

My two purposes of the card are gaming and video editing with Adobe Premiere Pro and After Effects.

 

Cost is my main worry, but I don't know too much about how vram affects performance. I'm guessing the more vram the better the performance, but then some quadro cards with more vram won't beat the performance of say an RTX 2080 so I'm not really sure.

 

Can anyone explain and help me further?

That's like comparing a V12 truck vs a V12 road car. Quadro is not a gaming gpu.

 

Vram capacity only affect performance when the game use more than it have. 
For example my 6GB 980 Ti start to show some microstutter even at high FPS when i use max settings in Apex Legend or Titanfall 2 or Monster Hunter World+HD Texture because those games use over 6GB of frame buffer at max settings. Actually there's few more games that use >6GB at max settings but i can't remember at the back of my head.

 

I don't use After Effects but Premiere don't really use my GPU VRAM, i only edit 1080p video though. 

8 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

The gaming performance for the 1080 is a lot better than the 2060, and I guess the only reason you'd prefer the 2060 would be Minecraft RTX.

1080 perform a lot better? 🤔

 

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16 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

1080 perform a lot better? 🤔

 

guess it just depends on who you ask

 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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1 hour ago, Fasauceome said:

guess it just depends on who you ask

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Yes, an overclocked factory overclocked 1080 with higher tdp vs an overclocked power limited FE 2060. 


If you take a factory overclock 1080 vs factory overclock 2060, the performance will be similar. 

Some games will favor Pascal more traditional scheduling while some newer one will favor Turing especially Vulkan games. I don't know if Nvidia simply ignored Pascal optimization in Vulkan but it perform terribly in some games. 

 

In the end it depend on pricing. If 2060 Super cost like $50-80$ extra, i say bite the bullet and get it. It will be worth it in the long run. Else just grab a 1080 and call it a day, 6GB on 2060 is not worth it unless the price is much lower and you don't mind lowering texture/aa settings

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Ehhhm please just wait for RDNA2 and Ampere to launch to see what new features could improve your workflow. It's absolutely useless to be building a new PC NEXT YEAR when by then you'll have stuff like the RX 6600XT/RX 6500XT/RTX 3050/RTX3060 which will beat the crap out of any 2060 OR 1080 and you'll get both AMD Radeon and NVIDIA giving you prices that competition will make. So I have no idea whatsoever why we are even having this discussion about building a PC next year with old hardware when you have awesome Graphics cards coming out by the end of this one. 

If you are really desperate to get a GPU NOW, just buy an RX 570 8GB for 100$ used and you'l be just fine with that for now.

 

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