GTX 1650 vs RX 570: Efficiency vs Performance?

[Newblesse Obblige]

I can’t decide between these two GPUs as I want a low power consumption PC but I want it to achieve 60 fps on games which the 1650 lacks. The reason why I want a low power GPU because the electric company charges big even though we have done everything to keep our bill low like unplugging appliances that we rarely used and etc,. So I want some advise on which should I pick? I want to/going to play GTA V, Minecraft, Valorant, and LoL. Maybe I want to play Horizon Zero Dawn, Battlefield series(haven’t picked yet), COD MW or Black Ops 3, Far Cry 3 or 4, and Watch Dogs 2(maybe the Legion too) too but I am not gonna buy them all, but maybe I would play them.

 

My current PC specs:

i5 6400

Asus H110m-K

8GB 2133 MHz Kingston RAM(Single channel smh)

I am a “Hard Drive as OS drive” pleb with 500 GB and one more 500GB(salvaged from a external drive) for file dump/mass storage.

 

will upgrade/add some components along with the GPU purchase like a SSD, PSU, and RAM.

[SavageNeo]

rx 570 is better performer but uses much more power. can you go for 1650 super? it's performance is near rx 580 but it uses much less power

[Mateyyy]

Depends on what your budget for the total upgrade is, but do not that you'll be holding back at least the 570 until you upgrade to dual-channel memory.

[Aereldor]

If you get the 1650 you won't need to upgrade your power supply. It's pretty close to the RX 570 in performance anyway, 

[Ermil]

Overall, the RX 570 is better than the 1650 performance wise, but also uses a lot of power.

 

If you can, go for the 1650 super, it's not that much more expensive than the 1650, doesn't use as much power as the RX 570 uses, and also, has similar performance to an RX 580, even beating it in a lot of games where Nvidia is better optimized.

 

Also, a big upgrade other than the GPU will be moving to an SSD, especially running the games on it, you're gonna see not just much lower load times, but also no hiccups/stuttering that you typically see when running the game on an HDD and even better FPS depending on the game, for example Minecraft or other open world games.

 

Edit: forgot to mention, as of right now you don't really need to upgrade your RAM if you're just gaming and running stuff like Discord and Spotify in the background, however, if you want to do more than that, for example run some Chrome tabs in the background or anything else, you are going to need more than 8GB. Also, the PSU doesn't need an upgrade unless it's a really cheap one.

[Mateyyy]

17 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

If you get the 1650 you won't need to upgrade your power supply. It's pretty close to the RX 570 in performance anyway, 

It's around 10-15% slower than the 570 off the top of my head which, especially in this class of GPUs, is far from insignificant. Even the newer GDDR6 1650s aren't much faster.

The 1650 Super only pulls around 20W more and it's much superior. It's more than worth the price bump, and it still realistically won't require that amazing of a PSU.

[Mondas42]

I recently tested both a RX 570 from Asus and a MSI 1650. Got the following 3d Mark results 

 

Time Spy - GTX1650 - 3648, RX570 4030

Fire Strike  - GTX1650 - 8332, RX 570 11410

 

 

 

[Aereldor]

6 minutes ago, Mondas42 said:

I recently tested both a RX 570 from Asus and a MSI 1650. Got the following 3d Mark results 

 

Time Spy - GTX1650 - 3648, RX570 4030

Fire Strike  - GTX1650 - 8332, RX 570 11410

ffs that 40% dx11 lead wow

[Mondas42]

6 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

ffs that 40% dx11 lead wow

 

I know, I was surprised as well. But I did it a few times and that's what i got. They were both tested with a Ryzen 3 3100 and 16mb of RAM, same motherboard as well.

[Newblesse Obblige]

9 minutes ago, Mondas42 said:

 

I know, I was surprised as well. But I did it a few times and that's what i got. They were both tested with a Ryzen 3 3100 and 16mb of RAM, same motherboard as well.

that why i said the 1650 lacks performance. rx 570 is cheaper but expensive in a long run.

[Aereldor]

10 minutes ago, Mondas42 said:

I know, I was surprised as well. But I did it a few times and that's what i got. They were both tested with a Ryzen 3 3100 and 16mb of RAM, same motherboard as well.

The software support on the RX 570 is astounding. It's essentially a 2016 card (because you can literally flash a 470 to a 570) that competed with the 1050 ti.

 

4 years later it's beating the 1650 super. People who bought a 470 in mid 2016 are having almost as good a time as those who bought a 2500k in 2011.

[Aereldor]

1 minute ago, 5GigaaHertz said:

that why i said the 1650 lacks performance. rx 570 is cheaper but expensive in a long run.

Expensive in the long run? 

[Newblesse Obblige]

32 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

It's around 10-15% slower than the 570 off the top of my head which, especially in this class of GPUs, is far from insignificant. Even the newer GDDR6 1650s aren't much faster.

The 1650 Super only pulls around 20W more and it's much superior. It's more than worth the price bump, and it still realistically won't require that amazing of a PSU.

yeah, a 10 to 15 percent performance increase/decrease at low-end to mid-range card seems significant on what i observe. 

1 minute ago, Aereldor said:

Expensive in the long run? 

Consumes more power = rip higher electric bill cost(?)

Edited August 11, 2020 by 5GigaaHertz

[Aereldor]

27 minutes ago, 5GigaaHertz said:

Consumes more power = rip higher electric bill cost(?)

Is a 40w difference really that significant? The 1650 is at least $20 more, I'd reckon it'd take a while for the power bills to add up enough to cancel savings.

 

That being said, if this is for an OEM, a 1650 is going  to be cheaper than a 570 and a new PSU, which is why I recommend it. Chances are he's going to be bottlenecked by his 6400 anyway, that thing only gets up to 3.1 GHz on all cores.

[Ermil]

Just save some more money and get a 1650 super, not only is the performance gain going to be worth it, but the power savings as well. In my country 1650 and 1650 super gpus are at the same price, on Amazon the 1650 is $30-50 cheaper than the 1650 super, which is just not worth saving considering again that it has pretty similar or even better performance compared to an RX 580 (not 570) and a much lower power consumption than both of them.

[Ermil]

6 minutes ago, Aereldor said:

Is a 40w difference really that significant?

It is, coming from a place where energy costs a lot of money (but not even as much as some US states LOL), 40w is like keeping 4 lightbulbs on in your house.

 

For reference, in just one month I saved like $40 by remembering to close the lights when I don't need them.

[Aereldor]

5 hours ago, Ermil said:

It is, coming from a place where energy costs a lot of money (but not even as much as some US states LOL), 40w is like keeping 4 lightbulbs on in your house.

 

For reference, in just one month I saved like $40 by remembering to close the lights when I don't need them.

Yeah I understand. I remember when I lived in New York, I had a tiny apartment with almost nothing in it, just a mini fridge and maybe two bulbs on at a time max. My power bill was $2 a month, so low the company had to charge me $20 extra because I was below the minimum.