My computer is under performing and I don't know why

[Kijlok25]

a few days ago I got a brand new RTX 2070 SUPER OC WINDFORCE

and for some reason my computer is under performing
for example
The Rise Of The Tomb Raider

there are places i'm getting 35FPS
when in videos online(with same specs)
people are receiving 120+FPS

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1700(OVERCLOCKED MANUALLY TO 3.9GHZ)

GPU: GIGABYTE RTX 2070 SUPER OC WINDOFORCE 3X 8GB
MEMORY: CORSAIR DDR4 2600MHZ (OVERCLOKED TO 3200MHZ)

PSU: Corsair 650W 80+ White VS650

MOTHERBOARD:gigabyte ab350-gaming 3-CF

this issue is happening in other games. almost all of them
for some reason i'm getting less fps
comes to a 60+ FPS difference.

 

i hope you can guys help me figure this out. I spent a lot of money to finally have a good gaming experience 

[fuzz0r]

What graphics card did you have in there before?

Did you clear drivers and install new ones after you installed your card?

[Kijlok25]

Just now, fuzz0r said:

What graphics card did you have in there before?

Did you clear drivers and install new ones after you installed your card?

I had an RTX 2070 ARMOR before
but it broke down so the store I purchased it from gave me a brand new RTX 2070 SUPER OC WINDFORCE
after it broke down I have used my old GTX 1050 TI for a few days
when I first plugged in my new GPU
I just went a head and installed the RTX 2070 SUPER drivers without deleting or changing anything

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Kijlok25 said:

(OVERCLOKED TO 3200MHZ)

how do you exactly know that? that is a pretty big overclock and considering that 2666 usually means low binned hynix/ not the best IC's in general and zen 1's imc is subpart.

make sure it is actually running at 3200. 

what soc and dram voltages? 

clear the cmos.

ddu the drivers.

10 hours ago, Kijlok25 said:

CORSAIR DDR4 2600MHZ

dual channel or single? capacity?

 

10 hours ago, Kijlok25 said:

(OVERCLOCKED MANUALLY TO 3.9GHZ)

what voltages, just making sure. 

[minibois]

7 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

MEMORY: CORSAIR DDR4 2600MHZ (OVERCLOKED TO 3200MHZ)

Is this two sticks of memory?

Are you sure you're comparing fps numbers at the same resolution? (i.e. both at 1080p)

[Kijlok25]

13 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

how do you exactly know that? that is a pretty big overclock and considering that 2666 usually means low binned hynix/ not the best IC's in general and zen 1's imc is subpart.

make sure it is actually running at 3200. 

what soc and dram voltages? 

clear the cmos.

ddu the drivers.

dual channel or single? capacity?

 

what voltages, just making sure. 

 my CPU is set to 3900MHZ with the voltage of 1.392V(DYNAMIC VCORE(DVID +0.204V)
memory is set to 3207.93MHZ with a voltage of 1.404V(was set to 1.200V on default)(DRAM VOLTAGE (CH A/B)
i have 2 ram sticks 8gb each(16GB total)

removing the cmos battery will just reset everything back to it's default drivers and i think it will give me less performance and I still have no idea how clearing drivers can help this situations
I switched up to 3 Graphics Cards
and I never deleted the old once( didn't know how and why should I even do that)
because in my mind installing new drivers clears everything after. can you explain me why deleting all drivers can help.
 

 

Edited July 29, 2020 by Kijlok25

[Kijlok25]

10 minutes ago, minibois said:

Is this two sticks of memory?

Are you sure you're comparing fps numbers at the same resolution? (i.e. both at 1080p)

same 1080p resolution and I check every graphic option
people are getting X2 fps then me

2 sticks of ram 8GB each TOTAL OF 16GB
but everything is overcloked(not including the GPU because im too scared to fuck my GPU up)

[akio123008]

12 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

how do you exactly know that? that is a pretty big overclock and considering that 2666 usually means low binned hynix/ not the best IC's in general and zen 1's imc is subpart.

make sure it is actually running at 3200. 

what soc and dram voltages? 

clear the cmos.

ddu the drivers.

dual channel or single? capacity?

 

what voltages, just making sure. 

Altough it can make a difference, I don't see how a lower memory speed or even a single channel config would cut your framerate in half.

 

You might wanna go and view task manager for a bit while running some games to get an idea of what's going on.

2 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

removing the cmos battery will just reset everything back to it's default drivers and i think it will give me less performance and I still have no idea how clearing drivers can help this situations

Screwed up drivers can in some cases really destroy performance.

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

and I still have no idea how clearing drivers can help this situations

Use ddu. Won't hurt to do so. 

 

3 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

can you explain me why deleting all drivers can help.

For all we know it could be messed up. 

Just use ddu. It won't hurt. 

3 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

removing the cmos battery will just reset everything back to it's default drivers and i think it will give me less performance

Could be an unstable overclock. You can always put the values in after this. 

 

1 minute ago, akio123008 said:

your framerate in half.

It can have a huge performance hit. 

[Kijlok25]

Just now, akio123008 said:

Altough it can make a difference, I don't see how a lower memory speed or even a single channel config would cut your framerate in half.

 

You might wanna go and view task manager for a bit while running some games to get an idea of what's going on.

Screwed up drivers can in some cases really destroy performance.

just saying. before getting a new GPU my RTX 2070 ARMOR legit DIED 
tried to install drivers 4 times
said it was installed but had a device manager error 43 on the GPU
 

[Kijlok25]

2 minutes ago, akio123008 said:

Altough it can make a difference, I don't see how a lower memory speed or even a single channel config would cut your framerate in half.

 

 

in AMD processors ram speed can really effect the performance 

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Kijlok25 said:

said it was installed but had a device manager error 43 on the GPU

yea, use ddu. 

 

[Kijlok25]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Use ddu. Won't hurt to do so. 

 

For all we know it could be messed up. 

Just use ddu. It won't hurt. 

Could be an unstable overclock. You can always put the values in after this. 

 

It can have a huge performance hit. 

when i try to run a stability check my computer is crashing
yesterday I had 2 blue screen crashes
and one crash that just shut down my PC like it was unplugged(it was not)
when I tried to run a stability check
after 5 minutes my PC crashed
how can I know what overclock is unstable?
i overclocked my RAM and my CPU 

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

how can I know what overclock is unstable?

Use memtest86 and/or OCCT and check. 

If there's any errors. Then clear the cmos. 

And as said before. 

Use. Ddu. 

[Kijlok25]

3 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

yea, use ddu. 

 

there are a lot of options here. 

i don't know which one to click
and btw
should I try to remove the CMOS battery and try to run some games?
in my logic ill have less FPS becuase everything is being set back to default
what should I do
like I mean:
1.

2.

3.

[akio123008]

Just now, Kijlok25 said:

in AMD processors ram speed can really effect the performance 

I run an AMD processor myself, in fact, a 1st gen Ryzen 5 1600. I've run the CPU on a single 8 gig stick, and later upgraded it to dual 8 gig (I added one) so I've run both single and dual channel, and I've also tested both configs at multiple different speeds and although it makes a difference, it's hardly noticable.

 

Sure there was a lot of drama about the 1st gen Ryzen cpus and their memory shenanigans, but it really isn't that bad.

7 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

It can have a huge performance hit. 

Define "huge" however you want, but there's no way you're going to go from 35 to 60+ fps by using dual channel memory or by overclocking memory.

[minibois]

10 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

same 1080p resolution and I check every graphic option
people are getting X2 fps then me

2 sticks of ram 8GB each TOTAL OF 16GB
but everything is overcloked(not including the GPU because im too scared to fuck my GPU up)

I have pretty similar specs to you (except a non-overclocked Ryzen 7 1700).

Could you run 3DMark TimeSpy or FireStrike, so compare scores in that?

 

If you haven't already ran that benchmark, a demo can be downloaded from Steam, so you can run these benchmark.

[Kijlok25]

5 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Use memtest86 and/or OCCT and check. 

If there's any errors. Then clear the cmos. 

And as said before. 

Use. Ddu. 

I am using OCCT right now 
for 2 minutes
no errors detected and everything is stable for what I can see
for how long should I run this test?

[minibois]

2 minutes ago, akio123008 said:

I run an AMD processor myself, in fact, a 1st gen Ryzen 5 1600. I've run the CPU on a single 8 gig stick, and later upgraded it to dual 8 gig (I added one) so I've run both single and dual channel, and I've also tested both configs at multiple different speeds and although it makes a difference, it's hardly noticable.

All the tests online seem to indicate otherwise: https://www.hardwaretimes.com/dual-channel-vs-single-channel-ram-gaming-amd-ryzen/

As you can see, a little bit further down the page they compare dual and single channel setups at 2400Mhz and 3200Mhz. While in some games there is no difference, in others there's a fairly large difference (in minimum fps).

 

When I ran my memory at 2133Mhz (dual channel, on a Ryzen 7 1700), I can 'feel' the stutters, while the average fps stays the same.

[Kijlok25]

8 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Use memtest86 and/or OCCT and check. 

If there's any errors. Then clear the cmos. 

And as said before. 

Use. Ddu. 

i used OCCT for 2 minutes and it crashed.....

[Kijlok25]

6 minutes ago, minibois said:

I have pretty similar specs to you (except a non-overclocked Ryzen 7 1700).

Could you run 3DMark TimeSpy or FireStrike, so compare scores in that?

 

If you haven't already ran that benchmark, a demo can be downloaded from Steam, so you can run these benchmark.

it will take some time for me to install the 3DMARK Demo
so give me 10minutes because my internet is poop

[Kijlok25]

guys i tried to run a memory stability check and it crashed after 2 minutes
what should I do?

[minibois]

Just now, Kijlok25 said:

guys i tried to run a memory stability check and it crashed after 2 minutes
what should I do?

Back off the memory overclock and try running it at the default 2666Mhz and see if the sort of fps you get in games is now 'correct'.

[Kijlok25]

Just now, minibois said:

Back off the memory overclock and try running it at the default 2666Mhz and see if the sort of fps you get in games is now 'correct'.

 

[Kijlok25]

1 minute ago, minibois said:

Back off the memory overclock and try running it at the default 2666Mhz and see if the sort of fps you get in games is now 'correct'.

what should i set the volts on the MEMORY to?
default 1.200V?