My computer is under performing and I don't know why

[Haro]

10 hours ago, akio123008 said:

but there's no way you're going to go from 35 to 60+ fps by using dual channel memory or by overclocking memory.

any evidence to back up your claims?

 

10 hours ago, Kijlok25 said:

guys i tried to run a memory stability check and it crashed after 2 minutes
what should I do?

clear the cmos. 

[Kijlok25]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

 

clear the cmos. 

im trying to use DDU right now before i remove the CMOS battery 
there are 3 options here:

CLEAN AND RESTART
CLEAN AND DO NOT RESTART

CLEAN AND SHUTDOWN

 

does it matter which one I use?

[Haro]

9 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

does it matter which one I use?

For the most part no. 

Do clean and restart though. And then install the new drivers. 

[Kijlok25]

23 minutes ago, minibois said:

I have pretty similar specs to you (except a non-overclocked Ryzen 7 1700).

Could you run 3DMark TimeSpy or FireStrike, so compare scores in that?

 

If you haven't already ran that benchmark, a demo can be downloaded from Steam, so you can run these benchmark.

I tried to use Time Spy right now
and my computer crashed in the CPU TEST
 

[Kijlok25]

7 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

For the most part no. 

Do clean and restart though. And then install the new drivers. 

so:

1. reinstall drivers

2. remove CMOS battery

and then try out some games with the base clock and all default values?
just to make sure what is my todo list

[Haro]

10 hours ago, Kijlok25 said:

reinstall drivers

2. remove CMOS battery

and then try out some games with the base clock and all default values?

yep.

[Kijlok25]

11 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

yep.

after removing the CMOS battery all values are the same
ram speed is still was it was

and CPU frequency is still set to 3.9GHZ

weird...

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

after removing the CMOS battery all values are the same
ram speed is still was it was

Well not try testing and check.

Also use a stress test like cinebench for cpu. 

And firestrike for GPU and compare your numbers. 

[Kijlok25]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Well not try testing and check.

Also use a stress test like cinebench for cpu. 

And firestrike for GPU and compare your numbers. 

compare them to what?
online scores?

[Haro]

3 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

compare them to what?
online scores?

Stress test. And then check other numbers with similar specs. 

And you can also watch a video from gamer Nexus or hardware unboxed for example and check. 

[Kijlok25]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Stress test. And then check other numbers with similar specs. 

And you can also watch a video from gamer Nexus or hardware unboxed for example and check. 

for some reason after doing all of that
reinstalling drivers

and removing the CMOS battery and putting it back in after a reboot 
cuased an issue that I can't launch geforce experience
it says that I need to restart my PC and try again but that doesn't work 

[Haro]

8 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

cuased an issue that I can't launch geforce experience
it says that I need to restart my PC and try again but that doesn't work 

Wait. 

You're using GeForce experience? Have you installed the drivers from nvidea's site? If not. Do that and just to be safe, don't bother with GeForce experience for now. 

[Kijlok25]

6 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Wait. 

You're using GeForce experience? Have you installed the drivers from nvidea's site? If not. Do that and just to be safe, don't bother with GeForce experience for now. 

ok update:

i accidentally installed the NoteBook drivers

and Yes i am installing a clean and the newst drivers from the NVIDIA site

i used DDU right now to clean to notebook driver and now im installing my GPU drivers.

ill try some benchmarks in a few minutes

 

[Kijlok25]

1 hour ago, minibois said:

I have pretty similar specs to you (except a non-overclocked Ryzen 7 1700).

Could you run 3DMark TimeSpy or FireStrike, so compare scores in that?

 

If you haven't already ran that benchmark, a demo can be downloaded from Steam, so you can run these benchmark.

I took the 3D mark benchmark(WITH DEFAULT VALUES LIKE YOURS)
and my results are:

GPU score 9985

Graphics test 1: 63.90 FPS

Graphics test 2: 58.19 FPS

 

CPU score 6771

CPU test 22.75FPS

can you please tell yours?

[Kijlok25]

24 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Wait. 

You're using GeForce experience? Have you installed the drivers from nvidea's site? If not. Do that and just to be safe, don't bother with GeForce experience for now. 

ok so

i searched online for the test 

but all results i saw with same specs

were overclocked.

 

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

but all results i saw with same specs

were overclocked

Still. Try to compare. If it's similar/ close then it's fine. 

Also as I said. You can watch a gamer Nexus or a hardware unboxed video. 

[Kijlok25]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Still. Try to compare. If it's similar/ close then it's fine. 

Also as I said. You can watch a gamer Nexus or a hardware unboxed video. 

i tried out some games. there are places in games that i get the same FPS (low 50FPS)

i think something is bottlenecking

I also tried to set the lowest graphics as possible and same FPS

i think there is a bottlenecking going on here

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Kijlok25 said:

think there is a bottlenecking going on here

For the most part it shouldn't. 

Is your memory in dual channel?

What capacity. And try a stress test. 

[minibois]

11 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

I took the 3D mark benchmark(WITH DEFAULT VALUES LIKE YOURS)
and my results are:

GPU score 9985

Graphics test 1: 63.90 FPS

Graphics test 2: 58.19 FPS

 

CPU score 6771

CPU test 22.75FPS

can you please tell yours?

This is TimeSpy, right?

I didn't save my fps numbers, but our scores are pretty much similar:

GPU: 10096

CPU: 6750

 

So in general, your PC should be performing okay, but unfortunately one benchmark doesn't say everything.

Install MSI Afterburner, run that program (it's like an advanced Task Manager) and play a game. When you notice there are stutters or places where you feel like you have lower fps than you should, Alt+Tab out of the game into Afterburner and check what is at 100%.

It might be a couple cores, your videocard, your videocard memory that is at 100%.

[Kijlok25]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

For the most part it shouldn't. 

Is your memory in dual channel?

What capacity. And try a stress test. 

yes it is

16GB 

memory stress test?

how can that help and what should I be expecting

[Haro]

Just now, Kijlok25 said:

memory stress test?

Cpu stress test and a gpu one.

And then check and compare your numbers as said above. 

If they're fine. Try a different game and check. 

[Kijlok25]

2 minutes ago, minibois said:

This is TimeSpy, right?

I didn't save my fps numbers, but our scores are pretty much similar:

GPU: 10096

CPU: 6750

 

So in general, your PC should be performing okay, but unfortunately one benchmark doesn't say everything.

Install MSI Afterburner, run that program (it's like an advanced Task Manager) and play a game. When you notice there are stutters or places where you feel like you have lower fps than you should, Alt+Tab out of the game into Afterburner and check what is at 100%.

It might be a couple cores, your videocard, your videocard memory that is at 100%.

I know what afterburner is. it is used to overclock GPU and all of that crap that I have no idea how to do

also. 

So if I understand correctly.

every time I have a stutter something is on 100%?

because AFTERBURNER shows only temperatures.

 

and also

this issue with the FPS has been an issue for more then a year.

even after switching my GPU something is still fucking up my performance...

and I have no idea what.

if it's the memory sticks

if it's the CPU 

maybe a overall Motherboard problem

I have no idea how to be sure what causes this issue.

i'v been searching online for more then 2 months. nothing helped

 

[Kijlok25]

6 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Cpu stress test and a gpu one.

And then check and compare your numbers as said above. 

If they're fine. Try a different game and check. 

I think i found it. i have to make sure with you guys because you know better. I searched for bottlenecking issue causes online and I found that there is a slow mode switch on the motherboard that can cause all of that

is that possible?

and if so is there a switch on every motherboard?

[minibois]

3 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

because AFTERBURNER shows only temperatures.

It also has CPU, GPU and system memory usage:

5 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

every time I have a stutter something is on 100%?

Usually, yes. If it's an hardware issue though.

It's of course also possible this is a software issue.

6 minutes ago, Kijlok25 said:

I have no idea how to be sure what causes this issue.

i'v been searching online for more then 2 months. nothing helped

have you reinstalled Windows at some point? I'm not saying that will fix it; but that would remove leftover drivers and sometimes it will fix weird issues.

[Kijlok25]

Just now, minibois said:

It also has CPU, GPU and system memory usage:

Usually, yes. If it's an hardware issue though.

It's of course also possible this is a software issue.

have you reinstalled Windows at some point? I'm not saying that will fix it; but that would remove leftover drivers and sometimes it will fix weird issues.

I did reinstall windows a few days ago

and I used DDU already

so it got nothing to do with the drivers

I was reading online and I saw something about a slow mode switch on the mother board that can cause under performance. is that possible?
and if so is there a slow mode switch on every motherboard? specifically speaking about GIGABYTE AB350 GAMING 3-CF motherboard