unstable overclock

[HardStroke]

tried overclocking my new 10600k today and this is my result:

cooler: corsair h100x 240 liquid aio

mb: gigabyte vision g

ram: vengeance 16gb 3600 cl18 - xmp enabled running at full speed

antec hcg gold 850w

so:

multiplier set to 50 and voltage to auto at around 1.41 - unstable, as soon and i fire up wd2 i get a bsod

multiplier set to 50 and voltage to manual - 1.36 still unstable, crashes on wd2 launch

multiplier set to 49 and voltage to auto around 1.4 or 1.39 i dont really remember - still unstable

now the multiplier is at 45 with voltage set to auto - just so i could get a basic stable overclock. system is now stable.

cpu is not thermal throttling or something and the psu is brand new, didnt have any problems with it in my old 3550 build, and i was running a 4ghz overclock

[Mateyyy]

Have you tried playing around with the LLC at all?

I'd also give tightening the timings on that memory kit a shot if you can't push the CPU any further.

[svmlegacy]

11 minutes ago, HardStroke said:

tried overclocking my new 10600k today and this is my result:

cooler: corsair h100x 240 liquid aio

mb: gigabyte vision g

ram: vengeance 16gb 3600 cl18 - xmp enabled running at full speed

antec hcg gold 850w

so:

multiplier set to 50 and voltage to auto at around 1.41 - unstable, as soon and i fire up wd2 i get a bsod

multiplier set to 50 and voltage to manual - 1.36 still unstable, crashes on wd2 launch

multiplier set to 49 and voltage to auto around 1.4 or 1.39 i dont really remember - still unstable

now the multiplier is at 45 with voltage set to auto - just so i could get a basic stable overclock. system is now stable.

cpu is not thermal throttling or something and the psu is brand new, didnt have any problems with it in my old 3550 build, and i was running a 4ghz overclock

What VID is the CPU requesting on a 4.8 GHz turbo, based on stock settings? 5.1 is going to be a stretch, based on how it's acting here.

[Eighjan]

Just now, svmlegacy said:

5.1 is going to be a stretch, based on how it's acting, here.

I think 5.1GHz is gonna be a push even w/ "exotic cooling", for a 10600K.

[svmlegacy]

1 minute ago, Eighjan said:

I think 5.1GHz is gonna be a push even w/ "exotic cooling", for a 10600K.

Although I don't have a comet lake CPU to truly know how these act, I was mostly responding to OP's comment in a previous thread:

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i will be overclocking it to at least 5.1ghz so my question is, do i really need those extra 4 pins?

voltage will be left on auto

@HardStroke BTW, the extra 4 pins aren't necessary unless you're hitting some ridiculous current draw. 10900K exotic cooling level. If you don't have the extra 4 pin EPS, don't worry about it.

[HardStroke]

5 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Have you tried playing around with the LLC at all?

I'd also give tightening the timings on that memory kit a shot.

can you explain a little about that llc? still new to overclocking

about the ram - something like maybe 3200 cl16?

4 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

What VID is the CPU requesting on a 4.8 GHz turbo, based on stock settings? 5.1 is going to be a stretch, based on how it's acting, here.

from what i saw, when i booted to windows, in the system info it said - 10600k @4.10ghz 4.10ghz

with my old i5 3550 it said - 3550 @3.30ghz 3.70ghz indicating the turbo boost and when i overclocked it the 3.70ghz changed to 3.90ghz

so maybe the overclock is not registering normally??? if thats even possible

[HardStroke]

1 minute ago, svmlegacy said:

@HardStroke BTW, the extra 4 pins aren't necessary unless you're hitting some ridiculous current draw. 10900K exotic cooling level. If you don't have the extra 4 pin EPS, don't worry about it.

yeah the people already told me that but thanks anyway

i was worried because my case can barely fit the 8 pins in that tiny hole so another 4 pins would not fit at all

[svmlegacy]

10 minutes ago, HardStroke said:

from what i saw, when i booted to windows, in the system info it said - 10600k @4.10ghz 4.10ghz

System Info? Check it with HWiNFO or CPU-Z.

[HardStroke]

1 minute ago, svmlegacy said:

System Info? Check it with HWiNFO or CPU-Z.

 

32 minutes ago, HardStroke said:

cooler: corsair h100x 240 liquid aio

mb: gigabyte vision g

ram: vengeance 16gb 3600 cl18 - xmp enabled running at full speed

antec hcg gold 850w

^^^^

[svmlegacy]

2 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

System Info? Check it with HWiNFO or CPU-Z.

 

Just now, HardStroke said:

^^^^

Checking if it's boosting.

[HardStroke]

Just now, svmlegacy said:

 

Checking if it's boosting.

you mean if its boosting to 4.80ghz when on stock?

[HardStroke]

23 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

 

Checking if it's boosting.

got it to 4.50ghz max

i dont know why

temp is around 60-62

while playing wd2 which is pretty heavy

[svmlegacy]

8 minutes ago, HardStroke said:

got it to 4.50ghz max

i dont know why

temp is around 60-62

while playing wd2 which is pretty heavy

Then it is boosting normally. 4.8 will be scarce, as it requires a single thread to be active.

[HardStroke]

22 minutes ago, svmlegacy said:

Then it is boosting normally. 4.8 will be scarce, as it requires a single thread to be active.

so why would they mention 4.80 boost clock in the specs????

but does it say that a stable 5ghz clock is rare? or just with exotic cooling?

[Eighjan]

2 hours ago, HardStroke said:

so why would they mention 4.80 boost clock in the specs????

but does it say that a stable 5ghz clock is rare? or just with exotic cooling?

Max. Turbo boost is rarely an all-core achievement on sensible cooling... that's why they quote so many 'boost speeds'.

[svmlegacy]

5 hours ago, HardStroke said:

so why would they mention 4.80 boost clock in the specs????

but does it say that a stable 5ghz clock is rare? or just with exotic cooling?

Because under the right conditions, it will hit 4.8 GHz, maximum. 

 

Nobody makes any guarantee's about overclocks. Your silicon may or may not be able to do 5 GHz, it's your job to find out what your chip likes, and is capable of. 

 

As far as what Comet Lake is typically able to do, I'm really not sure.

[HardStroke]

2 hours ago, Eighjan said:

Max. Turbo boost is rarely an all-core achievement on sensible cooling... that's why they quote so many 'boost speeds'.

uhh...idk....my old i5 3550 was turboing to 3.7ghz easily (base 3.3ghz) although its a different platform and chip set...

[Eighjan]

9 hours ago, HardStroke said:

uhh...idk....my old i5 3550 was turboing to 3.7ghz easily (base 3.3ghz) although its a different platform and chip set...

That WAS 8yrs ago... and wasn't an SMT CPU.

[Mateyyy]

16 hours ago, HardStroke said:

can you explain a little about that llc? still new to overclocking

about the ram - something like maybe 3200 cl16?

Load-Line Calibration (very basically and in short) helps you adjust how aggressively the voltages droop at load, which in turn does end up affecting other things but anyway, I'd suggest starting lower than straight to 4.9/5GHz, and considering you were on pretty high Vcore from the get-go at around 1.36V+, I'd set the LLC to something like Medium. You'll generally want to stay away from the super aggressive LLC modes.

If you're looking for a very thorough overclocking guide, especially since you're on a Gigabyte board, and didn't know what movie to watch tonight, you could give this a shot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ-1WSvN4aQ

 

3200 CL16 would be a sidegrade from 3600 CL18. If you could play around at least with the primary timings and get it to say around 3600 CL17, or maybe even a slight frequency bump to say 3733 CL18, that'd give a decent little boost in performance, granted with a slight voltage bump to the RAM.

[xg32]

10 hours ago, HardStroke said:

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appearantly there's a chance for a really bad bin for a 10600k

 

https://siliconlottery.com/collections/cometlake/products/10600k50g

 

only 23% hits 5.0, and thats with an avx offset

 

https://siliconlottery.com/collections/cometlake/products/10600k51g

 

without an avx offset ur aiming for a top 8% chip

 

start at 4.7