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Nimbus Data announced the price of 100TB and 50TB SSD

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Well, eventually in consumer space one day we'll need it when games reach 1TB though. With definitely much faster speeds of course as well as higher nand flash quality too. 

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6 hours ago, leadeater said:

Server will be in the bin before even those crappier ones hit 75%.

 

We've (at work) had a pair of enterprise SSDs replaced recently as they were down to something like 10% life remaining. So we proactively replaced them. Not unexpected wear when you consider their entire purpose was to be read/write cache drives for a SAN hosting multiple VMs in a cluster. :) The SQL server primarily ground them down to bits. But, they did the job as expected, couldn't ask more from them.

 

FYI, given the cache hit ratio, we opted to double the size of the SSD cache. Made a noticeable difference. And the newer drives have a much higher endurance rating. Who knows, might outlast the life of the SAN in service.

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7 hours ago, leadeater said:

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Server/SSDs are 3 years old and the 240GB ones are Read Intensive (low endurance) used for the OS and the 1.9TB are Mixed Use (medium endurance) used for application on the server (backup server Index Cache).

 

There are also 4 NVMe's in that server but I'd have to view this information another way and I can't be bothered, they are also Mixed Use so assume similar.

 

Server will be in the bin before even those crappier ones hit 75%.

 

Just reminded me to check my data usage on my 970 evo 240GB.

 

Still at 100%, as written only 7.2TB in 1.8 years approx, out of the 150TBW it is supposed to tolerate.... at this rate this drive will last me another almost 36 years, which means I might be around 84 years old when this thing dies - so it'll be interesting to see which of us goes first, me or the drive 🤣

 

I'm assuming I'll still have a computer capable of housing an NVME drive in that space of time... or at least an adaptor at the very least. I know it won't be the same computer as I tend to change them a lot more frequently.

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That's a lot of data.

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1 hour ago, paddy-stone said:

Just reminded me to check my data usage on my 970 evo 240GB.

 

Still at 100%, as written only 7.2TB in 1.8 years approx, out of the 150TBW it is supposed to tolerate.... at this rate this drive will last me another almost 36 years, which means I might be around 84 years old when this thing dies - so it'll be interesting to see which of us goes first, me or the drive 🤣

 

I'm assuming I'll still have a computer capable of housing an NVME drive in that space of time... or at least an adaptor at the very least. I know it won't be the same computer as I tend to change them a lot more frequently.

Well considering those write endurance are very conservative it'll be about as useful as a floppy disk and still be working, Samsung has tested most of their SSDs in to the PBs before failure but yours is only a 240GB so like 500TB-1PB all going well.

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21 hours ago, leadeater said:

Well considering those write endurance are very conservative it'll be about as useful as a floppy disk and still be working, Samsung has tested most of their SSDs in to the PBs before failure but yours is only a 240GB so like 500TB-1PB all going well.

Yeah, that's a very nice endurance rating... don't know how useful it'll be for me personally though. Although saying that, I use it pretty conservatively as just a boot drive right now. When I get a faster NVME drive sometime, I'll most likely switch to using this as a cache drive, so will get a lot more writes.... or who knows, maybe USB to NVME adapters will get better when USB 4 devices start dropping, then I'll switch to using it for fast storage OTG.

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9 hours ago, leadeater said:

Possibly, the IOPs numbers match other typical SATA and SAS SSDs of that type if you flip them and there was another 3.5" archive focused SSD a year or so ago which has very similar specs to these (if you flip them). But maybe it's done on purpose, doesn't make any sense.

Nope not flipped (just finished checking the product sheets to check)...such a strange drive.  I would assume the applications of this would see the majority of the drives put into SAS bays. (4.4 days to fill a drive with SAS)

 

https://nimbusdata.com/docs/ExaDrive-DC-Datasheet.pdf

 

Looking at all the promotional information bugs me...although I guess this really is just for datacenters that literally need to store a bunch of data where random reads/writes are more important (and you have massive data sets).  (Since it could replace 10TB HDD drives x 10...but that would result in a huge sacrifice in read/write sequential performance).  The lack of transfer speed really is what seems to stand out.  Really the 100TB model to me only seems practical if you needed the data that densely packed (but then again those scenarios would usually use SAS...I am confused at their choice to kill the SAS speeds)

 

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20 hours ago, gloop said:

How long till we get a Petabyte SSD server project?

$400k on SSD's...mother of god.

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4 hours ago, wanderingfool2 said:

Nope not flipped (just finished checking the product sheets to check)...such a strange drive.  I would assume the applications of this would see the majority of the drives put into SAS bays. (4.4 days to fill a drive with SAS)

 

https://nimbusdata.com/docs/ExaDrive-DC-Datasheet.pdf

Yes I also checked the data sheets but that doesn't rule out they are wrong, not saying it is wrong but those numbers make zero sense as SAS is the very clear superior protocol and is itself cross compatible with SATA.

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1 hour ago, leadeater said:

Yes I also checked the data sheets but that doesn't rule out they are wrong, not saying it is wrong but those numbers make zero sense as SAS is the very clear superior protocol and is itself cross compatible with SATA.

True...although it is a pretty large oversight if it is wrong (as they refer to the SATA speeds as that multiple times).  Either way, I think we agree if it is correct and not swapped it is pretty crazy

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