Posted July 5, 2020 Just a quick question to everyone! I already have a GTX 980 being used as my streaming hardware on my streaming unit and i am just wondering if its worth to get a GTX 1650 to replace it or an RTX card for better quality for my streams. Any feedback would be highly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, startmenu said: Just a quick question to everyone! I already have a GTX 980 being used as my streaming hardware on my streaming unit and i am just wondering if its worth to get a GTX 1650 to replace it or an RTX card for better quality for my streams. Any feedback would be highly appreciated! 16 series should be good enough due to the nvenc encoder PC specs: Ryzen 9 3900X overclocked to 4.3-4.4 GHz Corsair H100i platinum 32 GB Trident Z RGB 3200 MHz 14-14-14-34 RTX 2060 MSI MPG X570 Gaming Edge wifi NZXT H510 Samsung 860 EVO 500GB 2 TB WD hard drive Corsair RM 750 Watt ASUS ROG PG248Q Razer Ornata Chroma Razer Firefly Razer Deathadder 2013 Logitech G935 Wireless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 would recommend waiting for the new ampere GPUs if you are looking for more performance and quality G502 Lightspeed Review PC: Spoiler i5-6400 GIGABYTE GA-H110M-DS2 CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 2X4 DDR4-2666MHz ASUS ROG STRIX-GTX 1060-O6G SEAGATE 2TB HDD FUJISTU F300 240GB SSD CORSAIR CX750M Laptop: Spoiler Acer Nitro 5 i5 8300h GTX 1050 4Gb 12 Gb RAM 128 Gb SSD 1 Tb HDD Peripherals: Spoiler Keyboard: Logitech G310 Atlas Dawn (Romer G) Rexus Legionare MX5.1 (Content Browns) Mice: Logitech G602 Logitech G502 Lightspeed Steelseries Rival 105 Logitech M330 Headset: Logitech G430 Cooler Master MH 752 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, eeeee1 said: 16 series should be good enough due to the nvenc encoder Sadly, the nvenc on the 1650 is merely the pascal encoder, instead of the new turing encoder. The improvement would not be that large over the 980's Maxwell encoder, so that GPU should probably stay in the system by itself. I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Author 7 minutes ago, eeeee1 said: 16 series should be good enough due to the nvenc encoder Thank for responding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Author 7 minutes ago, eeeee1 said: 16 series should be good enough due to the nvenc encoder Thank for responding! I will take note of this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Author 6 minutes ago, Fasauceome said: Sadly, the nvenc on the 1650 is merely the pascal encoder, instead of the new turing encoder. The improvement would not be that large over the 980's Maxwell encoder, so that GPU should probably stay in the system by itself. Thank for responding! Do you have any forums or video of that? If that is the case would it be better to get a RTX card instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, startmenu said: Thank for responding! I will take note of this! would not take note of this as it has the pascal encoder, and not the actual good turing encoder. also its just a much slower GPU. gtx 980 is a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, startmenu said: Thank for responding! Do you have any forums or video of that? If that is the case would it be better to get a RTX card instead? The 1650 super and higher are equipped with the Turing encoder, the 1650 regular is the only 16 series card with the pascal encoder. I believe Gamer's Nexus is where I heard that info, you could check out the reviews on that channel for a lot of info. I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, startmenu said: Thank for responding! Do you have any forums or video of that? If that is the case would it be better to get a RTX card instead? The 1650 Super and up GPUs have the Turing encoder on them. The 1650S is also roughly on par with the 980 in terms of gaming performance. 1 minute ago, Fasauceome said: the 1650 regular is the only 16 series card with the pascal encoder. It's got the Volta encoder on it, though to be fair afaik it's about on par with the Pascal encoder in terms of quality. Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB @ 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6 Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13" -- i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+ Display: Gigabyte G34WQC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, startmenu said: Thank for responding! I will take note of this! The cheapest GPU that has nvec is the 1650 super. If you can't get that , get the 980. PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White). Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish). Build Log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Author 2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said: The cheapest GPU that has nvec is the 1650 super. If you can't get that , get the 980. I already have the 980 being my hardware encoder for my streaming PC. Would that be enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, startmenu said: Would that be enough? For the most part yes. Don't get a 1650. PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD. Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White). Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish). Build Log: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Author 4 minutes ago, Mateyyy said: The 1650 Super and up GPUs have the Turing encoder on them. The 1650S is also roughly on par with the 980 in terms of gaming performance. It's got the Volta encoder on it, though to be fair afaik it's about on par with the Pascal encoder in terms of quality. If its par with 980's pascal encoding it wouldn't be a big upgrade then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, startmenu said: I already have the 980 being my hardware encoder for my streaming PC. Would that be enough? If it serves its purpose, then you wouldn't have too much of a reason to get rid of it, unless the power consumption was a concern to you. I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Author Just now, TofuHaroto said: For the most part yes. Don't get a 1650. Alright, thanks for your input. I will remove 1650 then from my options and instead will be looking at those RTX cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Author Just now, Fasauceome said: If it serves its purpose, then you wouldn't have too much of a reason to get rid of it, unless the power consumption was a concern to you. Power consumption shouldn't be an issue since i am using a Gaming PC and Streaming PC. I just want to bump up my streaming quality because i want to have a quality especially for fast phase games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, startmenu said: If its par with 980's pascal encoding it wouldn't be a big upgrade then? The 980 is Maxwell, not Pascal. The Volta encoder used in the 1650 is similar to the Pascal one, the Turing encoder (on the 1650 Super and better) is better. Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB @ 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6 Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13" -- i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+ Display: Gigabyte G34WQC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 1 minute ago, startmenu said: Power consumption shouldn't be an issue since i am using a Gaming PC and Streaming PC. I just want to bump up my streaming quality because i want to have a quality especially for fast phase games. Then you may want to consider a 1650 super to improve stream quality, it's the cheapest appreciable upgrade. Cheapest model you can get would do I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Author 1 minute ago, Mateyyy said: The 980 is Maxwell, not Pascal. The Volta encoder used in the 1650 is similar to the Pascal one, the Turing encoder (on the 1650 Super and better) is better. Oh i got confused on that. LOL Hmmm... im having some second thoughts on 1650 since its the cheapest one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Author 1 minute ago, Fasauceome said: Then you may want to consider a 1650 super to improve stream quality, it's the cheapest appreciable upgrade. Cheapest model you can get would do Yeah i wont be using it for gaming anyways since i have a 1080ti on my gaming PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, startmenu said: Yeah i wont be using it for gaming anyways since i have a 1080ti on my gaming PC The 1080 ti has two pascal encoders, you might want to stream from your main PC, without the secondary PC, you might get better results and not need to run two systems. I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Author 14 minutes ago, GoldenLag said: would not take note of this as it has the pascal encoder, and not the actual good turing encoder. also its just a much slower GPU. gtx 980 is a better option. Are you referring to 1650? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Just now, startmenu said: Are you referring to 1650? yes the 1650 has the pascal derived encoder. its also slower iirc in gaming, if you want something new, id aim 1650 super or higher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 5, 2020 Author 1 minute ago, GoldenLag said: yes the 1650 has the pascal derived encoder. its also slower iirc in gaming, if you want something new, id aim 1650 super or higher Alright, I will take note of this! Thanks for the input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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