Quick question about MSI MPG X570 Gaming Plus with 3950X

[SFFDesigns]

Hello!

 

I have an X570 Gaming Plus motherboard. I know about its poorer VRM performance compared to similarly priced units. I am wondering whether it could power a 3950X at stock speeds (for future upgradability). I have seen people use the 3900X with it.

 

As I said before, I am not planning on overclocking

[Mateyyy]

You'll want to have some decent airflow around those VRM heatsinks.

If you have fan(s) in the top of your case, set them up as intakes. It's not the optimal way to run top fans but unless you plan on mounting a blowie matron directly onto the VRMs with a zip tie, this is your only clean option.

[SFFDesigns]

Ok thank you! I am not sure whether I will actually ever upgrade, I just wanted to know whether I would have the option.

 

I will set my fans up like that with my 3700X as well.

[Mateyyy]

2 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

Ok thank you! I am not sure whether I will actually ever upgrade, I just wanted to know whether I would have the option.

 

I will set my fans up like that with my 3700X as well.

Yeah I mean it's not ideal with that board but it is doable.

I'd leave the fans as exhausts in the top with a 3700X. It won't push the VRMs that hard to require direct airflow, especially if you've got some half decent airflow in your case in the first place.

 

Also, please use quotes (like I did above) or tags (@Hymenopus_Coronatus like this), so we can be notified whenever you reply.

[SFFDesigns]

Alright thank you so so much @Mateyyy! 

 

53 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

I'd leave the fans as exhausts in the top with a 3700X

Ok, I'll do that!

[SFFDesigns]

Would the 3900X be any different than the 3950X @Mateyyy? 

 

Like would I be able to leave the cooling config basically like I would a 3700X

[Haro]

8 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

Would the 3900X be any different than the 3950X @Mateyyy? 

In terms of power draw ? 

Afaik it's very similar in terms of current draw  ( compared to the 3900x)

So it is not that much different

Edited June 27, 2020 by TofuHaroto

[SFFDesigns]

2 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Afaik it's very similar in terms of current draw  ( compared to the 3900x)

Oh ok, so not much different then the 3950X in terms of VRM temps?

[Haro]

4 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

so not much different then the 3950X in terms of VRM temps?

It's different 

It will be hotter , just not s significant difference afaik 

Do as what @Mateyyy said , you will still need a fan to cool the vrms with either cpu's

Edited June 27, 2020 by TofuHaroto

[SFFDesigns]

1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

It will be hotter , just not s significant difference afaik 

Do as what @Mateyyy said , you will still need a fan to cool the vrms with either cpu's

Ok thank you @TofuHaroto and @Mateyyy for the help!

[SFFDesigns]

I actually have one more question. 

 

@Mateyyy mentioned

On 6/27/2020 at 3:07 PM, Mateyyy said:

mounting a blowie matron directly onto the VRMs

 

Would using 40mm fan(s) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00908QLQ0?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) over the VRM heatsinks help significantly? Could it help allow OC'ed 3900X/3950X without throttling?

 

 

[Mateyyy]

6 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

I actually have one more question. 

 

@Mateyyy mentioned

 

Would using 40mm fan(s) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00908QLQ0?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1) over the VRM heatsinks help significantly? Could it help allow OC'ed 3900X/3950X without throttling?

Yes, even a tiny fan will help quite significantly.

 

Take this video, for reference: 

 

[Haro]

10 minutes ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

over the VRM heatsinks help significantly? Could it help allow OC'ed 3900X/3950X without throttling?

Yep 

Active cooling will significantly help.

[SFFDesigns]

Ok thank you @TofuHaroto and @Mateyyy! I will go ahead and get some!

[Haro]

1 minute ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

will go ahead and get some!

Good luck

[SFFDesigns]

One more question (sorry) @TofuHaroto and @Mateyyy. 

 

Do you know around what VRM tier this mobo would be with active cooling? 

[Mateyyy]

6 hours ago, Hymenopus_Coronatus said:

One more question (sorry) @TofuHaroto and @Mateyyy. 

 

Do you know around what VRM tier this mobo would be with active cooling? 

Well, I couldn't really tell you, simply because the tier list refers to the current handling capacities with very little airflow and there's factors as to how fast the fan spins, how large the fan is, how pressure optimised the fan is, how the heatsink fins are, etc.

 

What I can say, is that considering Hardware Unboxed tested this board with an overvolted 3900X, a 3950X with PBO would probably be a little less current draw than that, and with a fan on the Vcore it should definitely handle that no problem.

The Gaming Plus has the advantage of having a really big heatsink on the Vcore, compared to the lower-end A Pro for example, and the power delivery is still somehow not as trash as a couple of Asrock's boards iirc, where even with a fan you'd probably want to not enable PBO on a 3950X.

[SFFDesigns]

5 hours ago, Mateyyy said:

Well, I couldn't really tell you, simply because the tier list refers to the current handling capacities with very little airflow and there's factors as to how fast the fan spins, how large the fan is, how pressure optimised the fan is, how the heatsink fins are, etc.

 

What I can say, is that considering Hardware Unboxed tested this board with an overvolted 3900X, a 3950X with PBO would probably be a little less current draw than that, and with a fan on the Vcore it should definitely handle that no problem.

The Gaming Plus has the advantage of having a really big heatsink on the Vcore, compared to the lower-end A Pro for example, and the power delivery is still somehow not as trash as a couple of Asrock's boards iirc, where even with a fan you'd probably want to not enable PBO on a 3950X.

Ok thank you so much! 
 

Im super relieved that I don’t need to replace this board, thank you so so so so much!