It's already time to release 2560x1440 27inch IPS 240Hz

[Rakanoth]

C'mon man. What are these companies waiting for? We also don't have a true 32-34inch 4k IPS 144 Hz. We have been waiting for that since 2016. I am getting bored.

[Sauron]

240Hz is a meme

[Rakanoth]

2 minutes ago, Sauron said:

240Hz is a meme

What does this mean?

[Sauron]

2 minutes ago, Rakanoth said:

What does this mean?

That it's completely pointless to go above 144Hz. Most monitors that promise more than that can't even actually keep up with it due to latency but nobody notices because nobody can tell the difference.

[Rakanoth]

Just now, Sauron said:

That it's completely pointless to go above 144Hz. Most monitors that promise more than that can't even actually keep up with it due to latency but nobody notices because nobody can tell the difference.

That is false. You will notice the difference between 144Hz and 240Hz.

[Sauron]

Just now, Rakanoth said:

That is false. You will notice the difference between 144Hz and 240Hz.

You can believe that if you want.

[kpluck]

14 minutes ago, Sauron said:

That it's completely pointless to go above 144Hz.

 

 

 

[kaiju_wars]

7 minutes ago, kpluck said:

 

 

 

Why do 240Hz vs 60 though, why not something that'd make more sense for people looking at high refresh rate monitors, like 120 or 144Hz?

[Foxxer]

Erm. Ok. 

[Kilrah]

32 minutes ago, kpluck said:

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This one only did 60 and 240, watch this one with 60, 144 and 240 and various groups of people.

 

Point is, 60 to 144 makes a huge difference, 144 to 240 not so much. And high fps on a low Hz monitor is better than fps/Hz parity as well, so if you have a 144Hz monitor but can push out 240fps and want best advantage then do so.

 

[SpookyCitrus]

3 hours ago, Rakanoth said:

That is false. You will notice the difference between 144Hz and 240Hz.

Not as much of a difference as going from 60hz to 144hz. I have a 1440p 144hz and have used a 1080p 240hz on my system, there's almost no difference between 1440p 144hz and 1080p 240hz besides 1440p itself being more crisp and clear, with 240hz being slightly smoother but not as much as you'd think(pretty much imperceptible) and only because it's less taxing and can achieve higher frame rates than 1440p, and it definitely wouldn't be worth the arm and the leg they would want to charge for them, especially if you already have a 144hz 1440p monitor. It takes a very capable system to even reach 144fps on 1440p at higher graphical details besides some esports titles where the game engine/optimizations allow for that high of a frame rate. So 1440p 240hz would be pointless for anyone with a rig that is incapable of reaching those frame rates at that resolution and I can tell you right now most are not capable of doing so, unless you drastically lower your visual quality, which if you're playing at a higher resolution to see more detail would defeat the purpose of even having a high resolution monitor in the first place. They'll make 1440p 240hz monitors when computers are good enough to output those frame rates without having to drastically lower your graphical quality and it's a more desired resolution. 60%+ of computer players still use 1080p over 1440p and 4k according to Steam and recent polls. Being in this field for as long as I have, I can tell you it will be at least a couple years until we get mainstream 240hz 1440p monitors. Manufacturers aren't going to manufacture or release a product when barely anyone will purchase it or even be able to use it as intended, it needs to be the right time and this ain't it chief.

[PlayStation 2]

I’d love a 24” 3000x2000 monitor, but those only exist in my dreams, so keep on dreamin’.

[Rakanoth]

2 hours ago, Sauron said:

You can believe that if you want.

It is not about belief. It is about facts. It is 100% true that you will notice the difference between 144Hz and 240Hz.

[SpookyCitrus]

44 minutes ago, Rakanoth said:

It is not about belief. It is about facts. It is 100% true that you will notice the difference between 144Hz and 240Hz.

As someone who has had both and compared them, it's not as noticeable as you think. I replied to you earlier and explained why they aren't going to be making them anytime soon. There is a slight difference in smoothness but it's negligible at best and it's mostly a result of the resolution difference between 1440p and 1080p. If you compare a 1080p 144hz vs a 240hz it's imperceptible. 

[Rakanoth]

15 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

As someone who has had both and compared them, it's not as noticeable as you think. 

A highly competitive firt person shooter player will definitely prefer 240hz. Even higher if it exists. The better eye and sense you have, the more noticeable it will be.

[SpookyCitrus]

24 minutes ago, Rakanoth said:

A highly competitive firt person shooter player will definitely prefer 240hz. Even higher if it exists. The better eye and sense you have, the more noticeable it will be.

I play first person shooters competitively(have done several tournaments over the years), I'm also a computer technician that tests components and hardware daily. In my experience and most others there is no perceptible difference between 144hz and 240hz when compared directly, in some scenarios there is less screen tearing but that's it. I don't come onto the forum to argue with people (especially when they seem to have not tested or experienced what they are trying to argue for themselves), I come on here to help people learn/fix their issues, and I'm just going to stick to that. You have clearly made up your mind on your "facts".

[dalekphalm]

4 hours ago, Rakanoth said:

It is not about belief. It is about facts. It is 100% true that you will notice the difference between 144Hz and 240Hz.

Right here is the problem with your argument. 
 

You make a black and white all or nothing claim. 
 

You said it is “100% true” that you will notice the difference. 
 

This is blatantly false, and even if it were true, you would have no way of proving it. 
 

Its 100% true that some people will notice the difference. But sure as hell not all people.

 

Hell, some people can’t even notice the difference between 60 and 120/144, and that’s a way more obvious difference. 

[Rakanoth]

25 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Right here is the problem with your argument. 
 

You make a black and white all or nothing claim. 
 

You said it is “100% true” that you will notice the difference. 
 

This is blatantly false, and even if it were true, you would have no way of proving it. 
 

Its 100% true that some people will notice the difference. But sure as hell not all people.

 

Hell, some people can’t even notice the difference between 60 and 120/144, and that’s a way more obvious difference. 

There is nothing wrong with my argument because everyone can notice the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz, 144Hz and 240Hz. Don't be funny.

[dalekphalm]

1 minute ago, Rakanoth said:

There is nothing wrong with my argument because everyone can notice the difference between 60Hz and 120Hz, 144Hz and 240Hz. Don't be funny.

Prove it. 
 

You’re making a claim that “everyone” can see the difference between 144 and 240. How do you know this claim to be true? What is your claim based on? What evidence do you have to support said claim?

[Rakanoth]

1 minute ago, dalekphalm said:

Prove it. 
 

You’re making a claim that “everyone” can see the difference between 144 and 240. How do you know this claim to be true? What is your claim based on? What evidence do you have to support said claim?

Bro I think you need some fresh air. These lockdowns aren't working out well for you. Anyone can notice the smoothness difference between a low refresh rate monitor and a high refresh rate one. 

[dalekphalm]

41 minutes ago, Rakanoth said:

Bro I think you need some fresh air. These lockdowns aren't working out well for you. Anyone can notice the smoothness difference between a low refresh rate monitor and a high refresh rate one. 

Are you now making the claim that 144 Hz is a “low refresh rate” monitor?

 

Just making sure that we are being clear here. 

[Fred Castellum]

57 minutes ago, Rakanoth said:

Bro I think you need some fresh air. These lockdowns aren't working out well for you. Anyone can notice the smoothness difference between a low refresh rate monitor and a high refresh rate one. 

He's absolutely right though, you made the claim so you need to provide evidence to back it up. 

 

Your saying anyone can notice the difference between 60hz - 120hz and 144hz - 240hz. 

 

It's true some people will notice the difference between these refresh rates but not all the people will notice the difference between the refresh rates especially when you go up to 144hz - 240hz. 

 

Noticeable difference between refresh rates is subjective as well, so although the frame rate is factually higher that doesn't necessarily mean everyone will notice that difference in use. 

 

The burden of proof is on you for making the claim.

[colonel_mortis]

I think this topic has run its course. Locked.