New PC! pls help

[FranciscoGuarda]

What pc do you think its the best? I want to buy a new pc but I don't know which one to choose. Pls help me asap! Thanks!!

 

https://www.chip7.pt/desktops/75207-doit-super-v3-doitsuperv.html#/8-so-sem_sistema_operativo/10-perifericos-sem_perifericos/138-placa_de_rede_wireless-asus_usb_ac51

https://www.chip7.pt/desktops/66848-chip7-predador-r5-3600-chip7predad.html#/8-so-sem_sistema_operativo/10-perifericos-sem_perifericos/53-discos-sem_hdd/127-grafica-gtx_1660_super_6gb/136-placa_de_rede_wireless-asus_pce_ac55bt

 

[SansVarnic]

They look like they are spec'd the same/similarly. The site is hard to read tbh.

[DailyProcrastinator]

2 hours ago, FranciscoGuarda said:

What pc do you think its the best? I want to buy a new pc but I don't know which one to choose. Pls help me asap! Thanks!!

Is building a PC on your own not an option?

[Eschew]

Excuse me. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but...

 

     

 

I'm assuming the prices listed are in Euros, and if I convert that to USD, System 1 (€78,500) is asking for $86,220 and System 2 (€84,900) is asking for $93,249?

• Erm... Too rich for my blood, I wouldn't buy either of 'em.
• Or are the commas meant to be periods, such that System 1 is €785.00 ($862.20) and System 2 is €849.00 ($932.50)?

 

System 1 Specs ("€785,00") - Translated from Portuguese

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• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core
• CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed
• Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Motherboard
• Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card
• Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR4 16 GB (2 X 8GB) 3000MHz RAM
• Storage: Seagate Maxtor 480 GB SATA SSD
• Case: Kolink Quantum RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
• PSU: Kolink KL-C850 Core Series 850W 80+ Certified PSU
• OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150)
• 2 Year Warranty

System 2 Specs ("€849,00") - Translated from Portuguese

Spoiler

• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core
• CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed
• Motherboard: ASUS EX-A320M-GAMING Motherboard
• Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card
• Memory: ADATA SPECTRIX D41 RGB DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) RAM
• Storage: BlueRay M7B 480 GB SSD
• Case: SLAYER RX22 PRO ATX Mid Tower Case
• PSU: GAMDIAS KRATOS 500 W PSU (Uncertain Model, Discrepancies w/Picture)
• OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150)
• 2 Year Warranty

 

Looking at the specs, I still wouldn't go with either of those choices for a long-term PC. An A320 motherboard is lacking in upgradability and quality-of-life features (only 4 x PCIe 2.0 lanes, 1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2, etc.) and doesn't support overclocking, a single 480 GB SSD isn't enough (for my uses, at least), and I have no idea whether the PSU is reliable or not.

[Prometheus935]

2 hours ago, Eschew said:

I'm assuming the prices listed are in Euros, and if I convert that to USD, System 1 (€78,500) is asking for $86,220 and System 2 (€84,900) is asking for $93,249?

No its €785 and €849 respectively. 

[FranciscoGuarda]

12 hours ago, Eschew said:

Excuse me. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but...

 

     

 

I'm assuming the prices listed are in Euros, and if I convert that to USD, System 1 (€78,500) is asking for $86,220 and System 2 (€84,900) is asking for $93,249?

• Erm... Too rich for my blood, I wouldn't buy either of 'em.
• Or are the commas meant to be periods, such that System 1 is €785.00 ($862.20) and System 2 is €849.00 ($932.50)?

 

System 1 Specs ("€785,00") - Translated from Portuguese

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• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core
• CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed
• Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Motherboard
• Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card
• Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR4 16 GB (2 X 8GB) 3000MHz RAM
• Storage: Seagate Maxtor 480 GB SATA SSD
• Case: Kolink Quantum RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
• PSU: Kolink KL-C850 Core Series 850W 80+ Certified PSU
• OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150)
• 2 Year Warranty

System 2 Specs ("€849,00") - Translated from Portuguese

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• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core
• CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed
• Motherboard: ASUS EX-A320M-GAMING Motherboard
• Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card
• Memory: ADATA SPECTRIX D41 RGB DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) RAM
• Storage: BlueRay M7B 480 GB SSD
• Case: SLAYER RX22 PRO ATX Mid Tower Case
• PSU: GAMDIAS KRATOS 500 W PSU (Uncertain Model, Discrepancies w/Picture)
• OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150)
• 2 Year Warranty

 

Looking at the specs, I still wouldn't go with either of those choices for a long-term PC. An A320 motherboard is lacking in upgradability and quality-of-life features (only 4 x PCIe 2.0 lanes, 1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2, etc.) and doesn't support overclocking, a single 480 GB SSD isn't enough (for my uses, at least), and I have no idea whether the PSU is reliable or not.

They're supposed to be periods. 785€ = 857$ and 849€ = 923$. And can you recommend me another one, pls? 

[FranciscoGuarda]

9 hours ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Is building a PC on your own not an option?

Maybe, if I can get a better one on a similar budget. I don't know. 

[FranciscoGuarda]

12 hours ago, SansVarnic said:

They look like they are spec'd the same/similarly. The site is hard to read tbh.

The only differences are that the RAM frequency on the first one is 3000MHz and the power supply is a Kolink 850W. And on the second one the RAM frequency is 2666MHz and the power supply is a Kratos 500W 80+ modular gold. 

[DailyProcrastinator]

7 hours ago, FranciscoGuarda said:

Maybe, if I can get a better one on a similar budget. I don't know. 

What is your budget and location?

[FranciscoGuarda]

1 hour ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

What is your budget and location?

200€ - Portugal

[DailyProcrastinator]

30 minutes ago, FranciscoGuarda said:

200€ - Portugal

Okay so not much, I would search locally for used PC's.

[FranciscoGuarda]

52 minutes ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

Okay so not much, I would search locally for used PC's.

Sorry, wrong number it's 850€.

[FranciscoGuarda]

18 hours ago, Eschew said:

Excuse me. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but...

 

     

 

I'm assuming the prices listed are in Euros, and if I convert that to USD, System 1 (€78,500) is asking for $86,220 and System 2 (€84,900) is asking for $93,249?

• Erm... Too rich for my blood, I wouldn't buy either of 'em.
• Or are the commas meant to be periods, such that System 1 is €785.00 ($862.20) and System 2 is €849.00 ($932.50)?

 

System 1 Specs ("€785,00") - Translated from Portuguese

  Reveal hidden contents

• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core
• CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed
• Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Motherboard
• Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card
• Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR4 16 GB (2 X 8GB) 3000MHz RAM
• Storage: Seagate Maxtor 480 GB SATA SSD
• Case: Kolink Quantum RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
• PSU: Kolink KL-C850 Core Series 850W 80+ Certified PSU
• OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150)
• 2 Year Warranty

System 2 Specs ("€849,00") - Translated from Portuguese

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• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core
• CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed
• Motherboard: ASUS EX-A320M-GAMING Motherboard
• Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card
• Memory: ADATA SPECTRIX D41 RGB DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) RAM
• Storage: BlueRay M7B 480 GB SSD
• Case: SLAYER RX22 PRO ATX Mid Tower Case
• PSU: GAMDIAS KRATOS 500 W PSU (Uncertain Model, Discrepancies w/Picture)
• OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150)
• 2 Year Warranty

 

Looking at the specs, I still wouldn't go with either of those choices for a long-term PC. An A320 motherboard is lacking in upgradability and quality-of-life features (only 4 x PCIe 2.0 lanes, 1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2, etc.) and doesn't support overclocking, a single 480 GB SSD isn't enough (for my uses, at least), and I have no idea whether the PSU is reliable or not.

 

 

8 minutes ago, FranciscoGuarda said:

Sorry, wrong number it's 850€.

 

18 hours ago, Eschew said:

Excuse me. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but...

 

     

 

I'm assuming the prices listed are in Euros, and if I convert that to USD, System 1 (€78,500) is asking for $86,220 and System 2 (€84,900) is asking for $93,249?

• Erm... Too rich for my blood, I wouldn't buy either of 'em.
• Or are the commas meant to be periods, such that System 1 is €785.00 ($862.20) and System 2 is €849.00 ($932.50)?

 

System 1 Specs ("€785,00") - Translated from Portuguese

  Reveal hidden contents

• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core
• CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed
• Motherboard: MSI A320M-A PRO MAX Motherboard
• Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card
• Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB DDR4 16 GB (2 X 8GB) 3000MHz RAM
• Storage: Seagate Maxtor 480 GB SATA SSD
• Case: Kolink Quantum RGB ATX Mid Tower Case
• PSU: Kolink KL-C850 Core Series 850W 80+ Certified PSU
• OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150)
• 2 Year Warranty

System 2 Specs ("€849,00") - Translated from Portuguese

  Reveal hidden contents

• CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6 Core
• CPU Cooler: No Cooler Listed
• Motherboard: ASUS EX-A320M-GAMING Motherboard
• Graphics Card: ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce GTX 1660 Super OC 6GB Graphics Card
• Memory: ADATA SPECTRIX D41 RGB DDR4 16GB (2 x 8GB) RAM
• Storage: BlueRay M7B 480 GB SSD
• Case: SLAYER RX22 PRO ATX Mid Tower Case
• PSU: GAMDIAS KRATOS 500 W PSU (Uncertain Model, Discrepancies w/Picture)
• OS: Windows 10 OS (+ €150)
• 2 Year Warranty

 

Looking at the specs, I still wouldn't go with either of those choices for a long-term PC. An A320 motherboard is lacking in upgradability and quality-of-life features (only 4 x PCIe 2.0 lanes, 1 x USB 3.1 Gen 2, etc.) and doesn't support overclocking, a single 480 GB SSD isn't enough (for my uses, at least), and I have no idea whether the PSU is reliable or not.

What if I change the motherboard to a MSI B350 Tomahawk? Or to the ASUS TUF B450M-PLUS GAMING? Or any one of these: https://www.chip7.pt/102-motherboards?refinementList[status][0]=1&refinementList[features.Fabricante do processador][0]=AMD&priceRanges[price]=80%3A110

[Eschew]

12 hours ago, FranciscoGuarda said:

Maybe, if I can get a better one on a similar budget. I don't know. 

For a budget of around €850, using parts from reputable manufacturers:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	€182.90 @ Globaldata
Motherboard	ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	€59.90 @ Globaldata
Memory	G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	€72.00 @ Globaldata
Storage	Silicon Power A60 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€107.96 @ Newegg Portugal
Storage	Seagate BarraCuda 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	€39.90 @ Globaldata
Video Card	Zotac GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB GAMING Video Card	€298.90 @ Globaldata
Case	Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case	€141.47 @ Newegg Portugal
Power Supply	EVGA GD (2019) 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	€128.07 @ Newegg Portugal
	Prices do not include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€877.43
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-16 01:02 CEST+0200

For the CPU cooler, use the stock cooler that'll be bundled with the AMD Ryzen 5 3600.

 

Changes from System 1 and System 2

• I've upgraded the graphics card from the GTX 1660 Super to the GTX 1660 Ti. You can still stick with the ASUS TUF GTX 1660 Super if you'd like, but it's around the same price as the ZOTAC GTX 1660 Ti in Portugal (from online sellers, at least). There are also cheaper GTX 1660 Supers available, if you'd like to shave a few more bucks off from the total cost.
• I've added a 1 TB HDD that the default configurations of System 1 and System 2 don't include.
• Fractal Design's Focus G case is a good case with decent airflow, build quality, and cable management considering its budget price point. There are cheaper cases available if you want to shave a few bucks off from the total cost, but your system may or may not get toasty.
• The EVGA GD (2019) is rated a Tier B PSU on LukeSavenije's PSU Tier List. It should be a decent enough PSU that won't blow up your system and that should be covered by a reasonable warranty.

 

 Also, please kindly stop quoting me and please learn to snip quotes, thank you. 

[FranciscoGuarda]

59 minutes ago, Eschew said:

 

Sorry  And thanks bro, you helped me a lot!  Also I think the price is wrong, it's +/- 1030€