Why Is No One Buying/Recommending Navi GPUs?

[BotBret]

I get that the 5500xt is a shit value card and I am severely disappointed with it. It should have been the 5600xt die. And i understand that the drivers were a mess for about a month, however almost everybody reporting issues has since said they were fixed in a recent update, yet reviewers are still recommending the 2060 over the 5600xt, which is $20 cheaper and slightly faster, without actually looking in to the current state of the drivers. A similar thing also occurred when the 5700(xt) launched, and despite reviewers dismissing raytracing prior to that, and even then with the 2060 and 2060 super inadequate for anything but the most basic raytracing which adds almost nothing to the game whilst tanking performance, they said that it was either or between the 2060 super and 5700xt despite the 5700xt being substantially faster and with no known driver issues at the time. I'm not accusing anyone of shilling as I think that is ridiculous for most reviewers who say enough good and bad stuff about different companies, but it does seem odd to me. Can anyone shed some light for me? 

[Gohardgrandpa]

I bought a sapphire pulse 5700xt a month ago. For me it was a no brainer between that and the 2060 super for $400. 

I haven’t had a single issue with this card and those newer drivers. I did have a 5700 non xt the month before I got the new card and had nothing but issues with it. 

 

To each their own when it comes to hardware. I look at performance numbers and buy based off of that. Ray tracing I could care less about, I play shooters and care about framerate so I want power not special lighting effects. 

[Xkillerpn]

All of the 5600xt, 5700 and 5700xt are really good deals as they deliver very good performance for the price, I always recomend 5700xt cards or 5700 if you need just a 2 fan gpu. 

 

 

I have a vega 64 and no issues from ages with drivers. Just keep the system clean and make sure that no OC on any part is making issues, yes even XPM counts to something to look at. 

[BotBret]

11 minutes ago, Xkillerpn said:

All of the 5600xt, 5700 and 5700xt are really good deals as they deliver very good performance for the price, I always recomend 5700xt cards or 5700 if you need just a 2 fan gpu. 

 

 

I have a vega 64 and no issues from ages with drivers. Just keep the system clean and make sure that no OC on any part is making issues, yes even XPM counts to something to look at. 

 

17 minutes ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

I bought a sapphire pulse 5700xt a month ago. For me it was a no brainer between that and the 2060 super for $400. 

I haven’t had a single issue with this card and those newer drivers. I did have a 5700 non xt the month before I got the new card and had nothing but issues with it. 

 

To each their own when it comes to hardware. I look at performance numbers and buy based off of that. Ray tracing I could care less about, I play shooters and care about framerate so I want power not special lighting effects. 

Sorry, my bad, awful way to phrase the question. I mean why are the similarly priced Turing Cards consistently outselling Navi by an extraordinarily large amount

[Xkillerpn]

20 minutes ago, BotBret said:

 

Sorry, my bad, awful way to phrase the question. I mean why are the similarly priced Turing Cards consistently outselling Navi by an extraordinarily large amount

They have the name and brand. to loads of people nvidia is good even if the product they are geting is crap vs a similiar one from amd at a lower price.

[Jurrunio]

14 minutes ago, BotBret said:

It should have been the 5600xt die.

which has the same die as 5700xt. This won't happen in any sense

 

Any examples of videos? There are many reasons, e.g. they only want to recommend bullet-proof stable products, videos were filmed back when the only well priced options are cooled by a blower, or even if they are from a country with expensive electricity, so power draw rivaling a 2080 isn't acceptable.

 

@Gohardgrandpa @Xkillerpn yeah sample size of 1. 

[erichunt]

11 minutes ago, BotBret said:

 

Sorry, my bad, awful way to phrase the question. I mean why are the similarly priced Turing Cards consistently outselling Navi by an extraordinarily large amount

Two reasons:

1. Fanboy's gonna fanboy.
2. Quality control.

AMD has gotten a bad wrap over the release of NAVI with poorly optimized drivers and firmware.  While later releases have for the most part solved those early issues, the damage has already been done.  Couple that with some manufacturers not doing their due diligence in quality control leaving some cards with performance issues.  All things aside, if I didn't have a capable 1070 I'd be all over a 5700XT.

[Action_Johnson]

I love AMD, but the driver issues people keep talking about were enough for me to avoid an AMD GPU for my current PC. If I spend a bucket of money on a new computer, the last thing I want to do is screw around with BIOS flashes and bad drivers.