Intel i7-3770k in 2020

[Remolus]

Hey Guys,

i've build my pc back in summer 2012 and see no  need of upgrading the motherboard / cpu / ram in the nearly future.

 

My Specs:

-Intel i7-3770k

-ASUS ROG Maximus V Gene

-G.Skill DDR3 32GB [10-12-12-31] (4x F3-2400C10Q-32GTX)

-Thermaltake Armor A30

-ASUS GeForce RTX 2070 DUAL OC EVO

-Samsung 840 Evo 500GB (windows)

-Samsung 840 Evo 250GB

-WD RED 4TB

 

In my initial build i've used:

-2x ASUS EN GTX560 (1 died back in end of 2016)

-WD 250GB VelociRaptor (WD2500HHTZ) (replaced with Samsung 840 Evo back in 2013)

 

In 2017 i've replaced the GPU with a "ASUS 960GTX Turbo".

And now with a "ASUS RTX2070 DUAL OC EVO".

 

What i wanted to say is, that i don't see the point of upgrading the heart of the pc since it's running like charm as a daily driver since nearly 8 years.

But what are your thoughts about this?

 

Why should i upgrade the rest instead of just the GPU?

I want hear your thoughts about this ^^

 

[Jurrunio]

Seems like you're just not doing anything CPU intensive

[Tristerin]

Until the CPU isn't enough, there isn't anything wrong with that build (or many other builds that the Users use case does not push to its limits with a desire to go further) 

 

I have so much DDR3 laying around I wish it was feasible for me to build a DDR3 gaming rig...but that's just the itch needing to be scratched talking lol

[Aarshdeep101PcBuolderGeek]

3770k+ 2070= gigantamax bottleneck

[TheDankKoosh]

1 minute ago, Aarshdeep101PcBuolderGeek said:

3770k+ 2070= gigantamax bottleneck

how so? A delid and 4.6ghz oc will push that into stock 6700k territory and that is still competent.

[TheDankKoosh]

56 minutes ago, Remolus said:

My Specs:

-Intel i7-3770k

-ASUS ROG Maximus V Gene

-G.Skill DDR3 32GB [10-12-12-31] (4x F3-2400C10Q-32GTX)

-Thermaltake Armor A30

-ASUS GeForce RTX 2070 DUAL OC EVO

-Samsung 840 Evo 500GB (windows)

-Samsung 840 Evo 250GB

-WD RED 4TB

 

 

 

Why should i upgrade the rest instead of just the GPU?

I want hear your thoughts about this ^^

 

Honestly, I'd just grab a delid kit and some liquid metal and oc the hell out of it if you'd like a higher framerate in games. You could probably hit 4.6-4.8 depending on your chip, especially with that board.

[Mick Naughty]

If you can’t or don’t notice an issue then why it is even crossing your mind?

Must never play a cpu intensive game or it never bothers you. Keep it for another 8 years. 

[GamerDude]

As long as you can get playable or smooth gameplay in games at the res and ingame settings you like, what;s there to complain of? Sure, you may not hit the same framerate as with a 9900KS, but as long as it's smooth, it's gold.

 

My ASrock Z87 Extreme 6 died on me, and since I feel my i7 4770K is still a useful CPU (lite gaming only, used mainly as HTPC) and combined with my GB VEGA64 Gaming OC, it does what I need it to do. I'd just removed the 4770K and installed it in a replacement board I'd gotten, a used MSI Z87 G45 Gaming......posting from this rig.

[SkilledRebuilds]

If your happy your happy.
However..even a 99%-100% GPU Usage scenario on OLD CPU's can be still SLOWER (sometimes by FAR) than a 99%-100% GPU load driven with a 9900K
If you look around a few examples, you can see it, some games respond well to more CPU ability to drive frames from THE PARTICULAR GAME ENGINE.

My GTX1070 with a 9900K (vs my 4790K) gets way more frames in MANY games #NotALL

Minimums and Averages.

[PrizmJKR]

I currently run an i7-3770 non K in my main rig, and if you're like me and is still satisfied with how it performs, then yeah leave your 3770k alone. I don't really think you have to upgrade your other components either, they look plenty good to me. If you want to maximize your 3770k's performance though you can delid it and overclock the piss out of it like other people have said on this thread.

[Ukyo82]

I dont think you have to upgrade, just cpu little bit bottleneck but is not problem, maybe wait till DDR5 coming that happen probably in 2-3 years max till then you can push with this, will see next year after consoles comes out how gonna affect games, for now 4 cores 8 threads enough for gaming

[ZzLy]

12 hours ago, Remolus said:

Hey Guys,

i've build my pc back in summer 2012 and see no  need of upgrading the motherboard / cpu / ram in the nearly future.

 

My Specs:

-Intel i7-3770k

-ASUS ROG Maximus V Gene

-G.Skill DDR3 32GB [10-12-12-31] (4x F3-2400C10Q-32GTX)

-Thermaltake Armor A30

-ASUS GeForce RTX 2070 DUAL OC EVO

-Samsung 840 Evo 500GB (windows)

-Samsung 840 Evo 250GB

-WD RED 4TB

 

In my initial build i've used:

-2x ASUS EN GTX560 (1 died back in end of 2016)

-WD 250GB VelociRaptor (WD2500HHTZ) (replaced with Samsung 840 Evo back in 2013)

 

In 2017 i've replaced the GPU with a "ASUS 960GTX Turbo".

And now with a "ASUS RTX2070 DUAL OC EVO".

 

What i wanted to say is, that i don't see the point of upgrading the heart of the pc since it's running like charm as a daily driver since nearly 8 years.

But what are your thoughts about this?

 

Why should i upgrade the rest instead of just the GPU?

I want hear your thoughts about this ^^

 

3770k is still a beast but with a 2070 it will definitely start to show its age. I'd recommend you upgrade to Ryzen.

[Remolus]

Have got the rtx finally inside the case after cutting an internal drive holder that was not in use just to fit in this beast.

 

tested it with various games at the mentioned settings all at 1080p@60Hz resolution.

 

Black Desert (ultra)

world of warcraft (ultra 4k internal resolution @ FullHD output)

Overwatch (ultra 4k internal resolution @ FullHD output)

fortnite (extreme)

temtem (ultra)

all goes fluid

 

i think, as long as i won’t notice the bottleneck, i‘ll go with @Ukyo82‘s advice.

[Cavalry Canuck]

On 2/17/2020 at 5:12 PM, Tristerin said:

Until the CPU isn't enough, there isn't anything wrong with that build (or many other builds that the Users use case does not push to its limits with a desire to go further) 

 

I have so much DDR3 laying around I wish it was feasible for me to build a DDR3 gaming rig...but that's just the itch needing to be scratched talking lol

Got any G.skill Trident X 8gb 2400+mb sticks kicking around you’d be willing to part with?

[Tristerin]

2 hours ago, Cavalry Canuck said:

Got any G.skill Trident X 8gb 2400+mb sticks kicking around you’d be willing to part with?

Negative, lots of 2gb, and 4gb sticks - The fastest DDR3 I have left are 4x2gb 2133mhz so 8gb total which in todays standards I don't think is enough for a gaming rig (everything else is 1600mhz or lower)

 

[Cavalry Canuck]

59 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Negative, lots of 2gb, and 4gb sticks - The fastest DDR3 I have left are 4x2gb 2133mhz so 8gb total which in todays standards I don't think is enough for a gaming rig (everything else is 1600mhz or lower)

 

I still think 32GB is a bit high. But I have two spare slots, so I might as well fill them before putting them under water.

[RICHJR]

My ASUS Maximus V Gene rig. 2x8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3 2400MHz (XMP), i7-3770K Turbo @ 3.9GHz, Noctua NH-L12S cpu cooler, AMD R9-280X gpu, Zalman 850 Watt modular PSU., Corsair 100R mid-tower, Thermaltake Riing 120mm High Static Pressure for Front and Rear air flow., Samsung EVO 850 500GB ssd,  Windows 10 Pro ver 1903., Linksys AE2500 USB Wireless N Adapter. I am not a gamer. My desktop runs great for practically everyday use. Adobe products work fine, Microsoft Office 2016 Pro., You Tube, Streaming ESPN3 for Sports, web Browsing , once had AutoCAD but best with 32GB of memory and a larger SSD.  I've run all kinds of Benchmarks, just no need to prove anything or stress the system anymore. Hey, it's 8 years old and 3rd Gen, I have a newer DIY rig built in 2015 with i7-6700K gives about a 15 percent increase in performance over the i7-3770K. When time to build my next system probably in 2022 it will have an used Intel i9 series and GTX 1080ti  or if budget allows RTX 2080 ti. Current pace is to replace your system every 5 to 7 years as I didn't really need to build my 2015 rig therefore 2022 be ideal time for another build. I might try the AMD Threadripper but I've always been an Intel-ligent guy. lol.

[RICHJR]

On 2/19/2020 at 7:04 AM, Cavalry Canuck said:

Got any G.skill Trident X 8gb 2400+mb sticks kicking around you’d be willing to part with?

You can get a pair (2x8GB) TridentX DDR3 2400MHz for $70 to $90 on eBay. You need patience and wait. Look/ search every 3 to 5 days as someone will sell in a few months. Play the waiting game on eBay. Truth is, not any difference in performance with 2400 as 2133MHz appears to be the real limit. Regarding Latency 1600MHz is Z best. Newer systems with DDR4 you will then find 2133 is tops unless you go with AMD and run ridiculous 4000. Oh! get ddr4 2666MHz for Laptops as they doubled 1333MHz. If you are a true Gamer get a nice Intel 9th or 10th Gen. CPU  matched with a near top end GPU depending on your budget. If your interested in an affordable mid-range gaming Laptop and have $1k to $1500 get the 2019 ACER Predator Helios 300 w 144Hz IPS screen and GTX  1660ti (on sale like $949 if you find one). You can always upgrade the memory, NVMe m.2 and ssd. It's was indicated to be in the Top 3 of all mid to upper range laptops in 2019. My daughter got one but with RTX 2060 for Video Editing, Rendering, Photos and Audio stuff … it's solid quality build and has fantastic performance. The RTX 2060 was a waste of $200 as GTX 1660ti performs maybe 1 to 2 percent less. Lenovo and MSI where the other 2 followed by HP and Eluktronics. Asus fell into a hole. RAZER on the high end and ACER Triton close behind. I have ASUS Maximus V Gene mobo and thought the TridentX  2400MHz be an improvement only to find out not any significant change from 1600Mhz. You have to go into BIOS and turn on the XMP setting.  I find I get a better boost in performance with my Samsung EVO 850 500GB ssd than the TridentX. but 16GB proves to be better than 8GB and runs smooth.

[RICHJR]

On 2/17/2020 at 10:26 PM, PrizmJKR said:

I currently run an i7-3770 non K in my main rig, and if you're like me and is still satisfied with how it performs, then yeah leave your 3770k alone. I don't really think you have to upgrade your other components either, they look plenty good to me. If you want to maximize your 3770k's performance though you can delid it and overclock the piss out of it like other people have said on this thread.

Delidding may destroy the CPU if not careful. Also Over Clocking it by huge amount anything greater than 20 percent will in time degrade and shorten the CPU lifespan but keeping the temperature down will provide additional life. Thermal Throttling can be an issue and we all love to hate Bottlenecks between CPU and GPU.

[RICHJR]

On 2/17/2020 at 5:54 PM, Remolus said:

Hey Guys,

i've build my pc back in summer 2012 and see no  need of upgrading the motherboard / cpu / ram in the nearly future.

 

My Specs:

-Intel i7-3770k

-ASUS ROG Maximus V Gene

-G.Skill DDR3 32GB [10-12-12-31] (4x F3-2400C10Q-32GTX)

-Thermaltake Armor A30

-ASUS GeForce RTX 2070 DUAL OC EVO

-Samsung 840 Evo 500GB (windows)

-Samsung 840 Evo 250GB

-WD RED 4TB

 

In my initial build i've used:

-2x ASUS EN GTX560 (1 died back in end of 2016)

-WD 250GB VelociRaptor (WD2500HHTZ) (replaced with Samsung 840 Evo back in 2013)

 

In 2017 i've replaced the GPU with a "ASUS 960GTX Turbo".

And now with a "ASUS RTX2070 DUAL OC EVO".

 

What i wanted to say is, that i don't see the point of upgrading the heart of the pc since it's running like charm as a daily driver since nearly 8 years.

But what are your thoughts about this?

 

Why should i upgrade the rest instead of just the GPU?

I want hear your thoughts about this ^^

 

No need to change your strategy! just concerned about Bottleneck and well it happens with the best CPU and GPU combo.

My ASUS Maximus V Gene rig. 2x8GB G.Skill TridentX DDR3 2400MHz (XMP), i7-3770K Turbo @ 3.9GHz, Noctua NH-L12S cpu cooler, AMD R9-280X gpu, Zalman 850 Watt modular PSU., Corsair 100R mid-tower, Thermaltake Riing 120mm High Static Pressure for Front and Rear air flow., Samsung EVO 850 500GB ssd,  Windows 10 Pro ver 1903., Linksys AE2500 USB Wireless N Adapter. I am not a gamer. My desktop runs great for practically everyday use. Adobe products work fine, Microsoft Office 2016 Pro., You Tube, Streaming ESPN3 for Sports, web Browsing , once had AutoCAD but best with 32GB of memory and a larger SSD.  I've run all kinds of Benchmarks, just no need to prove anything or stress the system anymore. Hey, it's 8 years old and 3rd Gen, I have a newer DIY rig built in 2015 with i7-6700K gives about a 15 percent increase in performance over the i7-3770K. When time to build my next system probably in 2022 it will have an used Intel i9 series and GTX 1080ti  or if budget allows RTX 2080 ti. Current pace is to replace your system every 5 to 7 years as I didn't really need to build my 2015 rig therefore 2022 be ideal time for another build. I might try the AMD Threadripper but I've always been an Intel-ligent guy. lol.

[Skullbiter]

My old PC was an i5 3470 which I ran with an R7 370 2gb graphics card. It ran just about anything, maybe not with the best graphics.. but things like Kingdom Come Deliverance were playable (some of you might disagree due to the graphical limitations) and I had yet to find a game that I couldn't run at all.. I was content.

 

I would not have upgraded had my mobo not decided to die on me, and due to the scarcity of 1155 socket motherboards. I did find one, but it got stuck in the mail so I ended up buying a 6600 with a gtx 1080 from a friend, after which I swapped that mobo and cpu to another friend for his i7 8700. 

 

The motherboard I ordered in the mail eventually arrived, so I slapped the 3470 in there and once I get a cheap PSU and case... and another HDD.. I will put it together with the old faithful R7 370 as a spare PC since it's still decently capable.

[TheDankKoosh]

On 3/19/2020 at 11:35 AM, Aeyesi said:

Mine's clocking at 5GHz at 1.470V ... atm its cooled by Noctua cooler buuuut... idk if its sufficient ... Would I get some more heatroom using watercooling? Ideally some that will be compatible with Ryzen 7 AM4 if I ever decide to upgrade to it. Also its paired with 5700XT, 16G DDR3 (2133MHz, 2400 XMP keeps crashin)

 

Don't know if you already have the delidded and applied liquid metal or not, but that would be the absolute best way to bring temps down, also that seems like a pretty decent 3770k to do 5ghz under 1.5v

[toasty99]

2 minutes ago, Aeyesi said:

It is actually ... + copper IHS ... but the cooler is somewhat small... Do you think watercooling combined with liquid metal would best possible temp takedown? (does the size of the radiator matter in this case?)

 

Also guys DoomEternal play fine with i7-3770k and 5700XT at UltraNightmare details at 4K (60fps)

There's a limit around 5ghz where you can't go any higher. Once you can do 5ghz you have pretty much hit the maximum performance. 

[svmlegacy]

What's the general rule of thumb on a 3770K's voltage? I've always tried to keep it under 1.3 V. I top out at 4.5 GHz @ 1.270 V. I find my system is pretty balanced with a GTX 780, at 1920x1080,60Hz. Of course, it depends on the games people are playing, but there's nothing I've played that it really struggles with. That's even including a sub-optimal dual rank triple-dimm configuration at 1600 MHz.

[toasty99]

1 hour ago, Aeyesi said:

Actually there's a proof of 5.1 GHz attempt running full userbenchmark at 1.57V... however I can't cool it sufficiently.

Well yeah you might get to 5.1 but 5.0 vs 5.1 is not that different and the temperature and voltage difference is massive.