Posted February 13, 2020 So I wanna buy best bang for the buck gpu, my budget 160 euros, currently there are not very big options to choose from(still expensive cars in my country) , my eye is on xfx rx 570 8gb(it's 150 euros), I know rx 580 would be better option, but cheapest is like 200+ euros, next options under 160 is gtx 1650 4gb, gtx 1650 super and that's basically it, there are no other options for new ones. And then there's used market, full of 1060, rx 580 and etc, but most are used for mining. So what's the best deal? Is any of those card some future proof? Tnx for help My system ryzen 5 1600 af, 16gb ram CPU Ryzen 5 1600 af 3.2 ghz Cooler AMD Wraith Prism rgb Motherboard Asrock b450m-hdv r4.0 RAM 16gb g.Skill 2666MHz GPU Inoo3d 1650 super twin x2 oc Case Genesis titan 750 Storage Kingston a400 240gb(system) Seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm(storage) Samsung 1tb 7200rpm(backup) PSU Fsp si series 700w 50arn 88% efficiency Display(s) Dell ultra sharp 24" 1080p Cooling X4 Led case fans Keyboard Redragon k552-rgb Mouse Trust rgb gaming mouse Sound Steelseries artic 1 Operating System Windows 10 home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 13, 2020 rx 580 used would be my pick, just buy it from a reputable seller, on nvidia side, nothing less than a 1660 super,. 5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc) 1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW 9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll 6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 13, 2020 Used RX 580 Or R9 fury if your power supply is up to it I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B Primary PC: i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me. Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference. How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 13, 2020 Author 26 minutes ago, xg32 said: rx 580 used would be my pick, just buy it from a reputable seller, on nvidia side, nothing less than a 1660 super,. There are no good sellers in my region, messeged one about rx 580, he had a few cards, asked if they are mining used and he sad no, yeah right, but has many same gpus. Found one that is selling whit half an year warranty, but he has not yet answered me, I hope he still has it. My goal is 1080p gaming, not higher, and mostly cs go CPU Ryzen 5 1600 af 3.2 ghz Cooler AMD Wraith Prism rgb Motherboard Asrock b450m-hdv r4.0 RAM 16gb g.Skill 2666MHz GPU Inoo3d 1650 super twin x2 oc Case Genesis titan 750 Storage Kingston a400 240gb(system) Seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm(storage) Samsung 1tb 7200rpm(backup) PSU Fsp si series 700w 50arn 88% efficiency Display(s) Dell ultra sharp 24" 1080p Cooling X4 Led case fans Keyboard Redragon k552-rgb Mouse Trust rgb gaming mouse Sound Steelseries artic 1 Operating System Windows 10 home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 13, 2020 Author 25 minutes ago, Fasauceome said: Used RX 580 Or R9 fury if your power supply is up to it Psu is good 700W, has x2 6+2 gpu connectors, can't find any r9 in used market CPU Ryzen 5 1600 af 3.2 ghz Cooler AMD Wraith Prism rgb Motherboard Asrock b450m-hdv r4.0 RAM 16gb g.Skill 2666MHz GPU Inoo3d 1650 super twin x2 oc Case Genesis titan 750 Storage Kingston a400 240gb(system) Seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm(storage) Samsung 1tb 7200rpm(backup) PSU Fsp si series 700w 50arn 88% efficiency Display(s) Dell ultra sharp 24" 1080p Cooling X4 Led case fans Keyboard Redragon k552-rgb Mouse Trust rgb gaming mouse Sound Steelseries artic 1 Operating System Windows 10 home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Bayron said: Psu is good 700W, has x2 6+2 gpu connectors, can't find any r9 in used market 700w doesn’t mean that psu is good tbh, if you have some low quality, or no name brand psu it may not handle well higher tier cards @Whiro tag or quote will do the trick i5 3570K @ 4.7Ghz | AsRock Fatal1ty Z77 Performance | Corsair Vengeance 16GB 1600MHz | ASUS Strix GTX 970 OC | Phanteks P400S TG (mesh panel) | EVGA 500W1 | Storage: Corsair 60GB SSD (boot), Gigabyte 120GB SSD, WD 2Tb HDD | Cooling: Custom loop EKWB EK-XRES 140 Revo D5 RGB PWM EKWB EK Supremacy Evo , naked die EKWB EK Thermosphere EKWB EK CoolStream PE 360 EKWB EK Coolstream SE 120 EKWB EK Vardar 120s x6 EKWB EK STC Classic 10/16 x10 EKWB EK DuraClear Tubing 16/10 EKWB EK CryoFuel Acid Green Laptop: Gigabyte G5-KC | i5 10500H | RTX 3060 WHIRO THE FIRST OF DEATH AND DARKNESS He feast on the dead to inherit their power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 14, 2020 I’d say a 1650 Super if it’s the same price as a 580. They perform roughly the same but the 1650 Super is significantly newer and will receive more updates, consumes less power and will have less fiddly drivers. Who needs fancy graphics and high resolutions when you can get a 60 FPS frame rate on iGPUs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Bayron said: My goal is 1080p gaming, not higher, and mostly cs go If buying new, The RX 570 8Gb is the best bang for the buck. Gaming With a 4:3 CRT System specs below Build: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1142393-yay-i-switched-to-amd-price-update CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X with a Noctua NH-U9S cooler Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 Aorus M (Because it was cheap) RAM: 32GB (4 x 8GB) Corsair Vengance LPX 3200Mhz CL16 GPU: EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC Blower Card HDD: 7200RPM TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 1TB, External HDD: 5400RPM 2TB WD My Passport SSD: 1tb Samsung 970 evo m.2 nvme PSU: Corsair CX650M Displays: ViewSonic VA2012WB LCD 1680x1050p @ 75Hz Gateway VX920 CRT: 1920x1440@65Hz, 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@125Hz Gateway VX900 CRT: 1920x1440@64Hz, 1600x1200@75Hz, 1200x900@100Hz, 960x720@120Hz (Can be pushed to 175Hz) Keyboard: Thermaltake eSPORTS MEKA PRO with Cherry MX Red switches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Bayron said: So I wanna buy best bang for the buck gpu, my budget 160 euros, currently there are not very big options to choose from(still expensive cars in my country) , my eye is on xfx rx 570 8gb(it's 150 euros), I know rx 580 would be better option, but cheapest is like 200+ euros, next options under 160 is gtx 1650 4gb, gtx 1650 super and that's basically it, there are no other options for new ones. And then there's used market, full of 1060, rx 580 and etc, but most are used for mining. So what's the best deal? Is any of those card some future proof? Tnx for help My system ryzen 5 1600 af, 16gb ram There is still good sources of used or unboxed, or refurbished products out there at good prices. these options will give you half decent performance at a reasonable price. you have to do your homework and read reviews / check things out, like buying used from ebay. or sometimes you can find local computer hardware stores advertise on ebay or other websites that have feedback and guarantee on products. i bought a used 1070ti super clocked EVGA gpu from ebay and it works perfectly fine, no problems or issues. like i said do your homework first and you should be able to get a RX 580 or something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 14, 2020 Why not the 1650 Super? It's a little faster than the 580 and significantly faster than the 570. 4GB VRAM sucks for sure, but not like a 570 is ever likely to run games well that need 6-8GB anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 14, 2020 RX 580 = GTX 1650 Super > RX 570 > GTX 1650 So what you get really depends on local prices and availability, but they're all fairly good except GTX 1650. GTX 1650 is trash. You could also look at used RX 470/570 or RX 480/580. AMD Ryzen 7 3700X | Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT | ASUS ROG Strix X470-F | 16GB G.Skill Trident Z RGB @3400MHz | EVGA RTX 2080S XC Ultra | EVGA GQ 650 | HP EX920 1TB / Crucial MX500 500GB / Samsung Spinpoint 1TB | Cooler Master H500M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 14, 2020 Author 5 hours ago, Whiro said: 700w doesn’t mean that psu is good tbh, if you have some low quality, or no name brand psu it may not handle well higher tier cards Fps si series 700w, 88% efficiency, is that bad? CPU Ryzen 5 1600 af 3.2 ghz Cooler AMD Wraith Prism rgb Motherboard Asrock b450m-hdv r4.0 RAM 16gb g.Skill 2666MHz GPU Inoo3d 1650 super twin x2 oc Case Genesis titan 750 Storage Kingston a400 240gb(system) Seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm(storage) Samsung 1tb 7200rpm(backup) PSU Fsp si series 700w 50arn 88% efficiency Display(s) Dell ultra sharp 24" 1080p Cooling X4 Led case fans Keyboard Redragon k552-rgb Mouse Trust rgb gaming mouse Sound Steelseries artic 1 Operating System Windows 10 home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 14, 2020 Author 2 hours ago, Frayia said: There is still good sources of used or unboxed, or refurbished products out there at good prices. these options will give you half decent performance at a reasonable price. you have to do your homework and read reviews / check things out, like buying used from ebay. or sometimes you can find local computer hardware stores advertise on ebay or other websites that have feedback and guarantee on products. i bought a used 1070ti super clocked EVGA gpu from ebay and it works perfectly fine, no problems or issues. like i said do your homework first and you should be able to get a RX 580 or something similar. Not in my country, font have ebay, no Amazon, mostly fb market place, 1 website for used stuff, and that's basically it, all stores that sell cards are totally overpriced. So my only options are new or risk on fb market. CPU Ryzen 5 1600 af 3.2 ghz Cooler AMD Wraith Prism rgb Motherboard Asrock b450m-hdv r4.0 RAM 16gb g.Skill 2666MHz GPU Inoo3d 1650 super twin x2 oc Case Genesis titan 750 Storage Kingston a400 240gb(system) Seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm(storage) Samsung 1tb 7200rpm(backup) PSU Fsp si series 700w 50arn 88% efficiency Display(s) Dell ultra sharp 24" 1080p Cooling X4 Led case fans Keyboard Redragon k552-rgb Mouse Trust rgb gaming mouse Sound Steelseries artic 1 Operating System Windows 10 home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 14, 2020 Author 1 hour ago, SteveGrabowski0 said: Why not the 1650 Super? It's a little faster than the 580 and significantly faster than the 570. 4GB VRAM sucks for sure, but not like a 570 is ever likely to run games well that need 6-8GB anyways. Yeah, I checked benchmarks and it a bit slower than 580 but it's cheaper to get(at least new) CPU Ryzen 5 1600 af 3.2 ghz Cooler AMD Wraith Prism rgb Motherboard Asrock b450m-hdv r4.0 RAM 16gb g.Skill 2666MHz GPU Inoo3d 1650 super twin x2 oc Case Genesis titan 750 Storage Kingston a400 240gb(system) Seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm(storage) Samsung 1tb 7200rpm(backup) PSU Fsp si series 700w 50arn 88% efficiency Display(s) Dell ultra sharp 24" 1080p Cooling X4 Led case fans Keyboard Redragon k552-rgb Mouse Trust rgb gaming mouse Sound Steelseries artic 1 Operating System Windows 10 home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 14, 2020 Author 51 minutes ago, melete said: RX 580 = GTX 1650 Super > RX 570 > GTX 1650 So what you get really depends on local prices and availability, but they're all fairly good except GTX 1650. GTX 1650 is trash. You could also look at used RX 470/570 or RX 480/580. Well I have rx 460 rn and everything better than it would be nice CPU Ryzen 5 1600 af 3.2 ghz Cooler AMD Wraith Prism rgb Motherboard Asrock b450m-hdv r4.0 RAM 16gb g.Skill 2666MHz GPU Inoo3d 1650 super twin x2 oc Case Genesis titan 750 Storage Kingston a400 240gb(system) Seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm(storage) Samsung 1tb 7200rpm(backup) PSU Fsp si series 700w 50arn 88% efficiency Display(s) Dell ultra sharp 24" 1080p Cooling X4 Led case fans Keyboard Redragon k552-rgb Mouse Trust rgb gaming mouse Sound Steelseries artic 1 Operating System Windows 10 home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 16, 2020 can't you buy from any components store, most sell / ship internationally, try looking at open boxed or refurbished. there is so many options for buying and paying for products, i am sure you will be able to find a good deal, have you looked at newegg? what country are you in / need shipping to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Frayia said: can't you buy from any components store, most sell / ship internationally, try looking at open boxed or refurbished. there is so many options for buying and paying for products, i am sure you will be able to find a good deal, have you looked at newegg? what country are you in / need shipping to? International shipping isn’t cheap at all, so it’s not an easy choice. Who needs fancy graphics and high resolutions when you can get a 60 FPS frame rate on iGPUs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, DrDerp said: International shipping isn’t cheap at all, so it’s not an easy choice. This is very true but not impossible, maybe better deal than buying from your own country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 17, 2020 Author 10 hours ago, Frayia said: This is very true but not impossible, maybe better deal than buying from your own country. Shipping is expensive to my country, around 40-60$, for even USB cable CPU Ryzen 5 1600 af 3.2 ghz Cooler AMD Wraith Prism rgb Motherboard Asrock b450m-hdv r4.0 RAM 16gb g.Skill 2666MHz GPU Inoo3d 1650 super twin x2 oc Case Genesis titan 750 Storage Kingston a400 240gb(system) Seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm(storage) Samsung 1tb 7200rpm(backup) PSU Fsp si series 700w 50arn 88% efficiency Display(s) Dell ultra sharp 24" 1080p Cooling X4 Led case fans Keyboard Redragon k552-rgb Mouse Trust rgb gaming mouse Sound Steelseries artic 1 Operating System Windows 10 home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 17, 2020 shipping is expensive now, all i can suggest is you will have to work hard, save up and treat yourself to a GPU you can afford with the shipping. I work a min of 6 days a week, just to keep the bills away. i want to also upgrade my CPU & GPU but will wait because there is more important things in life that come first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted February 17, 2020 Author 5 hours ago, Frayia said: shipping is expensive now, all i can suggest is you will have to work hard, save up and treat yourself to a GPU you can afford with the shipping. I work a min of 6 days a week, just to keep the bills away. i want to also upgrade my CPU & GPU but will wait because there is more important things in life that come first. Got good deal for 1650 super, so I took it CPU Ryzen 5 1600 af 3.2 ghz Cooler AMD Wraith Prism rgb Motherboard Asrock b450m-hdv r4.0 RAM 16gb g.Skill 2666MHz GPU Inoo3d 1650 super twin x2 oc Case Genesis titan 750 Storage Kingston a400 240gb(system) Seagate barracuda 2tb 7200rpm(storage) Samsung 1tb 7200rpm(backup) PSU Fsp si series 700w 50arn 88% efficiency Display(s) Dell ultra sharp 24" 1080p Cooling X4 Led case fans Keyboard Redragon k552-rgb Mouse Trust rgb gaming mouse Sound Steelseries artic 1 Operating System Windows 10 home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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