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Motherboard VRM Tier List v2 (currently AMD only)

Jurrunio
21 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

Gigabyte Aorus B550i Pro AX (not sure if the board can handle the R9 chips) 

Yes it can. 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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9 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Yes it can. 

Nice new logo and thanks. 

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I have an Asus Prime B550M-A (wifi) which apparently is one of the lowest tier mobo's.

 

I'm experiencing instability (hard reboots) when I set my DRAM above the stock settings. For example, when I enable the DOCP for QVL G.Skill Ripjaws memory, the system sometimes crashes within a couple of minutes of booting Windows, but sometimes only after several hours (mostly in Windows though, not during gaming).

 

 

Disable DOCP nets a stable system.

 

Is the B550M's VRM so bad that it can't even get to DOCP rated speeds? I am I wrong to expect that from a motherboard?

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1 hour ago, ragp13 said:

I have an Asus Prime B550M-A (wifi) which apparently is one of the lowest tier mobo's.

 

I'm experiencing instability (hard reboots) when I set my DRAM above the stock settings. For example, when I enable the DOCP for QVL G.Skill Ripjaws memory, the system sometimes crashes within a couple of minutes of booting Windows, but sometimes only after several hours (mostly in Windows though, not during gaming).

 

 

Disable DOCP nets a stable system.

 

Is the B550M's VRM so bad that it can't even get to DOCP rated speeds? I am I wrong to expect that from a motherboard?

No, running memory fast is a separate thing fro VRM. Did you update the chipset driver and BIOS?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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7 hours ago, ragp13 said:

Is the B550M's VRM so bad that it can't even get to DOCP rated speeds?

No it's not related to that. 

Specs ? What kit? What frequency and is the bios and chipset drivers up to date?

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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Latest BIOS 0805 and latest AMD Chipset drivers

 

Tried it on QVL G.Skill Ripjaws V F4-3200C16D-16GVKB, but also on (non-QVL) Crucial BLS2K8G4D32AESBK

 

Full description of issue here: 

 

 

Really looking for some way to diagnose and solve the issue

 

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6 hours ago, ragp13 said:

 

Really looking for some way to diagnose and solve the issue

3 completed builds in PCPP do not state memory overclocking as a problem (they use 3000 or 3200MHz kit), so I'm not sure about this. Possible that a board upgrade will help, after all B550M-A really looks cheap, unlike many other B550 boards.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

3 completed builds in PCPP do not state memory overclocking as a problem (they use 3000 or 3200MHz kit), so I'm not sure about this. Possible that a board upgrade will help, after all B550M-A really looks cheap, unlike many other B550 boards.

Can you point me towards the topic/post? I'm new here and don't know what PCPP stands for.

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8 minutes ago, ragp13 said:

Can you point me towards the topic/post? I'm new here and don't know what PCPP stands for.

pcpartpicker, not a post.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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HI there.  It's been a long time since I built a new rig (which I used to do a lot...) so I'm a bit out of the loop on hardware.

 

Long story short I plan to get a 3950x, and I want the best motherboard that I can get.  For this build, budget isn't really a constraint, and I'd like a top-end motherboard to go with the processor.  I see that VRM is a concern, or at least something people pay attention to.  I was looking at the google spreadsheet posted as well, which sort of has rankings of motherboards for this chipset.

 

I do a lot of graphical editing and rendering, but I also play games.  This build will have 64gb ram, and I have a 2060 video card to tide me over till the 3000 series comes along.  I more or less have the rest of the build figured out (M.2 drive, probably Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case, EVGA SuperNOVA T2 850 if I can find one).

 

Additionally, it's worth noting that I have no intention of overclocking anything (I have no real reason to), and if possible I'd like to air cool everything.

 

That said, if money isn't a barrier, what's the best motherboard that I can get?  I'm willing to pay for top-end, or something that will last and be reliable, especially with the 3950x.

 

Thanks for any help!

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2 minutes ago, PeachDodo said:

what's the best motherboard that I can get? 

Technically one of the best am4 boards right now is the aorus extreme. But while budget isn't a concern for you. Can you give us a number to work with? Features that you like? (IO or m.2 slots, how many pcie slots etc..). 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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Are Z490 and B550 (accurately) getting added in soon?

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I need a new MOBO to upgrade my build and i was wondering if an Asrock b450M Steel Legend would function similar to the ATX version of it or is it in a weaker tier?  ( yes i know it is an mATX board with less PCI-E connectors and a SATAIII m.2).

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1 minute ago, Snarky said:

an Asrock b450M Steel Legend would function similar to the ATX version of it or is it in a weaker tier? 

They both have the same vrm. 

Also look at the b450 pro 4m as it does the same thing and is generally cheaper. 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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Just now, TofuHaroto said:

They both have the same vrm. 

Also look at the b450 pro 4m as it does the same thing and is generally cheaper. 

My local stores are out of stock and i can only get a steel legend , other options: Msi b450m pro vdh or gigabyte b450m gaming

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1 minute ago, Snarky said:

other options: Msi b450m pro vdh 

Yea then the steel legend would be decent. 

Afaik the pro vdh is also good. But they're pretty similar iirc. 

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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1 minute ago, TofuHaroto said:

Yea then the steel legend would be decent. 

Afaik the pro vdh is also good. But they're pretty similar iirc. 

Ok, thanks.

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On 1/1/2020 at 8:04 PM, f0gpie said:

Ugh again i cant decide to get asus tuf or gigabyte elite x570 board

get the asus one

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So how is progress on charting the LGA1200 boards? Not gonna bother or is it AMD for ever list? 😅

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On 7/24/2020 at 1:42 AM, TofuHaroto said:

Technically one of the best am4 boards right now is the aorus extreme. But while budget isn't a concern for you. Can you give us a number to work with? Features that you like? (IO or m.2 slots, how many pcie slots etc..). 

Hey there!  Sorry for my delayed reply, and thanks for your response.  I think I'd probably cap out around $700 or so, but if an e.g. $500 board would be just as good for what I need, that'd be nice I guess.

 

How important is that the arous extreme is fanless?  How does the aorus extreme compare to e.g. the aorus master or asus crosshair viii hero or formula?  Is there something about as good that is a step down, for example?  I see the differences for each here, I'm just not sure the real world benefit that I'd see from the different vrm setups, for example.  The Aorus master is newer, and is more easily available (e.g. the aorus extreme is often oos, same with the crosshair viii).

 

side note: I've seen that a number of people have issues with the gigabyte boards, e.g. here.  How concerning should this be?  I'm probably more concerned with reliability than features...

 

As for my needs, it's nothing special:

  • 6x SATA minimum is fine.  8 would be okay, but not sure I'll use them all
  • 2x m.2 minimum is fine
  • 64gb ram is what this machine will have
  • WiFi isn't a "must", but it'd be nice to have
  • I'm never going to run more than one GPU
  • I will rarely (if ever) use my PCIE slots beyond my video card
  • I dont need an extended-atx, just atx is good for me

This computer will be used for gaming, rendering, game development, and lots of Adobe products.  I have no interest in overclocking or watercooling.  I want something reliable, stable, and very compatible with the 3950x, so I'm willing to pay for quality/reliability.  I don't think I have any strong demands as far as motherboard features go.  Basically all high-end boards will have what I need, I think?  It's mostly the VRM stuff that is entirely new to me since it's been so long since I built a computer.  There's more to consider nowadays than when I built my i7-930 rig, for example :)

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20 hours ago, PeachDodo said:

How important is that the arous extreme is fanless? 

Not really important. It's just afaik the heatsink for the chipset is so massive on that board that a fan isn't required to cool the x570 chipset. 

20 hours ago, PeachDodo said:

the aorus master

For example the aorus master has 12 50a phasee, the aorus extreme has 14 70a  phases. 

 

20 hours ago, PeachDodo said:

or asus crosshair viii hero or formula

Unless you're making a custom loop the formula is kind of pointless and the hero afaik is usually overpriced. 

The aorus extreme is over kill in every way possible for example. It's just one of the best x570 boards out there, it's not necessarily the best value board, but it's the most Overkill. 

20 hours ago, PeachDodo said:

e.g. here.

I'm not familiar with any obvious issues with gigabyte boards. But they're fine for the most part afaik. 

 

20 hours ago, PeachDodo said:

something reliable, stable, and very compatible with the 3950x,

Then honestly b550 boards are even more than enough. 

If you want the aorus extreme is overkill in every way possible. But even a good 200 dollar board like the tomahawk is more than enough, which uses 6 60a phases doubled with ISL6617 and will easily handle anything from AMD right now. 

As for b550. 

The aorus master has the same vrm as the aorus extreme, has 2 m.2's. Decent io. 6 SATA ports, though if you populate  the second m.2 then the x16 slot will be switched to x8. That's how the lanes are configured on that board. 

In general. As the one of the best x570 board. 

The aorus extreme. 

As for other x570 board. The tomahawk is really good.  There's a wifi version, and 2 m.2's decent IO and it's vrm are good.  

If you want as well, consider b550 like the aorus master if you want something that's Overkill. 

But the most notable difference between x570 and b550 is that in x570. The chipset has pcie 4.0 lanes where b550's chipset has 3.0. But in b550 the lanes that are connected to the cpu are 4.0 assuming your cpu is zen 2 and above obviously. 

So in general, for b550: the tomahawk, the aorus pro, the strix f, the steel legend, and the aorus master as a more expensive option are really good. 

As for x570 obviously the extreme is one of the best, but the tomahawk and the unify are good.  Obviously there are other options but these are also solid. 

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What about B450M A-Pro MAX? (mATX)

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10 hours ago, EgeN7 said:

B450M A-Pro MAX

this board is just bad, nothing like the atx version, doesn't have a heatsink and uses 25a mosfets iirc, unless you're building an athlon/apu build/ an office build, i wouldn't use it.

PC: Motherboard: ASUS B550M TUF-Plus, CPU: Ryzen 3 3100, CPU Cooler: Arctic Freezer 34, GPU: GIGABYTE WindForce GTX1650S, RAM: HyperX Fury RGB 2x8GB 3200 CL16, Case, CoolerMaster MB311L ARGB, Boot Drive: 250GB MX500, Game Drive: WD Blue 1TB 7200RPM HDD.

 

Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

Audio: Logitech G432, Moondrop Starfield, Mic: Razer Siren Mini (White).

 

Phone: Pixel 3a (Purple-ish).

 

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