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Motherboard VRM Tier List v2 (currently AMD only)

Jurrunio
5 minutes ago, agentlemetalwave said:

Nevemind, i've just realized i answered to the OP,

It's fine lol, you can edit your post using the pen icon and delete that quote and quote the appropriate person. 

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On 12/24/2019 at 5:10 AM, Jurrunio said:

Credit to:@VegetableStu @GoldenLag @LukeSavenije

 

The following list is based on facts, ranked on power delivery and known problems. The list will include boards that support CPU overclocking available at retail from different brands.

 

There are still differences in performance among boards of the same tier. As a result, those that barely made it into that tier will be in orange while those that are better than others in the same tier are in blue. Unless specified, boards sharing the same name and chipset in different form factors are ranked the same.

 

For advanced users: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Smj5dh97n32wJqm5dkdDcQt8ID7vH52-lKzaaXUUQx8/edit?usp=sharing

 

AMD

 

All current draw figures are based on Prime95 small FFT with AVX unless otherwise specified, in other words the worst case scenario. Only often recommended sku of CPUs in the same generation and core/thread count configuration is named, others share the same rating. Zen scales down frequency and voltage according to EDC (current limit) and TDC (thermal limit) settings of the motherboard so in theory you won’t cook the VRM of any board at stock, you just lose frequency.

 

AM4 (Athlon, Ryzen 3, Ryzen 5, Ryzen 7, Ryzen 9)

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Tier S: 300A current draw on little ambient airflow (i.e below a big air cooler in a well-ventilated case), maxed out 3950X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking

Asus: X570 Crosshair VIII Hero

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Xtreme

MSI: X570 Godlike

 

Tier S-: 250A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3900X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking

Asus: X570 X570-E, Pro WS Ace, B550 B550-E

Asrock: X570 Taichi, Phantom Gaming X, Creator

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Master, B550 Aorus Master

MSI: X570 Creation, Ace, Unify, TomahawkB550 Tomahawk

 

Tier A: 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3950X on ambient cooling, 2700x on LN2

Asus: X570 X570-F, TUF Plus, Prime Pro, Crosshair VIII Impact, X570-I, X570-P, B550 TUF Plus (mATX & mATX WiFi), X470 Crosshair VII Hero, B450 TUF Pro S (mATX), X370 Crosshair VI Extreme

Asrock: X570 ITX/TB3, X470 Taichi (Ultimate), X370 Taichi, Professional Gaming

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Ultra, Pro (ATX), B550 Aorus Pro (& AC) (ATX)X470 Gaming 7

MSI: B550 Mortar

 

Tier B: 160A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3900X, 3950x at 1.3V on ambient cooling, maxed out 1800X on LN2

Asus: X470 X470-FX370 Crosshair VI Hero, X370-F

Asrock: X570 Extreme4, Steel Legend, Pro4 (ATX & mATX), Phantom 4

Biostar: X570 GT8, X470 GT8, X370 GT7

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Elite, ITX

MSI: B550 Gaming Plus, A-Pro, X470 M7 ACGaming Pro Carbon

 

Tier C :125A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2700, 3900x at 1.3V on ambient cooling (P95)

Asus: X370 Prime Pro

Asrock: B550 Pro4 (ATX & mATX), Phantom 4

Gigabyte: X570 UD, Gaming X, B550 Aorus Pro (mATX), Gaming XX370 Gaming K7, Gaming 5

MSI: X570 Gaming Pro CarbonB550 Pro-VDH WiFi, Pro-DASH, Bazooka, X470 Gaming Plus, B450 Gaming Pro Carbon (& Max), Tomahawk (& Max), Gaming Plus ATX (& Max), B450-A Pro (& Max) (ATX), Mortar (& Max), Gaming Plus mATX, Bazooka Plus, Gaming Plus ITX, X370 M7 ACK, XPower Titanium

 

Tier D :100A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1700 and 3700X, a tad more than maxed out 2600/1600AF, maxed out 2700 in ambient cooling (Cinebench R15)

Asus: X470 Prime Pro, X470-I, B450 TUF Pro (mATX and ATX), B450-E, B450-I, X370 X370-I, B350 B350-I

Asrock: X470 Master SLI, K4, ITX, B450 Pro4 (mATX and ATX), Pro4-F, K4, M/AC, Steel Legend, ITX, B350 Pro4, K4

Gigabyte: X470 Gaming 5, Ultra Gaming, B550 Aorus Elite (mATX), Gaming, DS3H, B450 Aorus Elite (mATX), Gaming

MSI: X570 X570-A Pro, Gaming Plus, EdgeX470 Gaming Pro, B450 Pro-VDH (& Max & V2), Bazooka (& Max Wifi & V2), X370 Gaming Pro Carbon, Krait Gaming, SLI Plus, Gaming Plus, Gaming Pro, B350 Gaming Pro Carbon, Krait Gaming

 

Tier E: 75A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1600 and 3600, a bit more than maxed out 2500X

Asus: B550 B550M-A, X470 TUF Plus, B450 B450-F, TUF Plus (mATX and ATX), Prime Plus, X370 X370-A, B350 B350-F, Prime Plus, TUF Plus

Asrock: B450 HDV, X370 Gaming X, Killer SLI, mITX, K4, Pro4, B350 ITX, HDV, AB350M

Biostar: X470 GTA, GTQ, GTN, X370 GT5, GT3, B350 GT5, GT3, GTN

Gigabyte: B450 Aorus Pro (ATX), Aorus Elite (ATX), Aorus M, Gaming X, S2H, DS3H, ITX, X370 Gaming K5, K3, 3, Gaming, DS3H, B350 Gaming 3, Gaming, DASH, DS3H, AB350N Gaming-WiFi

MSI: B450 Pro-M2 (& Max)B350 Gaming Plus, Tomahawk, PC Mate, Bazooka, Mortar, Pro-VDH, Pro-VH Plus, Pro-VD Plus

 

Tier F: 50A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1200/2200G (CPU only)/3100/3300X

Asus: B550 B550M-K, B450 B450M-K, B450M-A, Dragon, B350 B350M-A, B350M-E, B350M-K

Asrock: B450 HDV R4.0, B350 HDV R3.0, HDV R4.0

Biostar: X570 GT, B350 B45M2, HiFi B350S1, ET2

Gigabyte: B350 D3H, D3V, HD3, DS2, B450 B450 H

MSI: B450 Pro-M2 V2, B450M-A Pro, B350 Gaming Pro

 

Tier H2O: Liquid cooled only VRM, quite bad if cooled only with air, tier S if liquid cooled

Asus: X570 Crosshair VIII Formula

Asrock: X570 Aqua

 

Tier W: Workstation features, can appear here and above tiers

Asus: X570 Pro WS Ace (proper ECC certification) 

Asrock rack: X570 D2I, D4U-2L2T, D4I-2T, X470 D4U (ECC cert + KVM switch), D4U2-2T (ECC cert + KVM switch)

 

 

B550 Speculation: If you cant find the board above, then it should be here. If it's already up there, then ignore what it's placed here

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Tier A: Asrock Steel Legend ATX, Extreme4, Taichi, Asus B550-A, B550-F, Gigabyte Aorus Elite ATX, MSI Edge WiFi, Carbon

 

Tier B: Asrock Steel Legend mATX, Phantom Gaming ITX, Asus B550-I, Biostar GTA, GTQ, Gigabyte Vision D, Aorus Pro ITX, MSI Edge ITX

 

Tier C : Asrock B550M-ITX

 

Tier D : Asus Prime B550 Plus, Gigabyte S2H

 

Tier F:  Gigabyte B550M H

 

 

TR4 (Ryzen Threadripper 1xxx and 2xxx) X399

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Tier LN2: 700A current draw under mist of liquid nitrogen and high RPM fan (ambient air? unrealistic), maxed out 2990WX under an awful lot of liquid nitrogen

Asus: Zenith Extreme Alpha

MSI: Creation

 

Tier S: 500A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out (1.35v) 2990WX on ambient cooling (P95), 2970WX on liquid nitrogen

Asus: Zenith Extreme Alpha

MSI: Creation

 

Tier A: 400A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2990WX on ambient cooling (Cinebench R20) or 1.2V in Prime95

Someone occupy here plz

 

Tier B: 350A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2970WX on ambient cooling (P95), 2990WX limited to 1.175v (P95)

Gigabyte: Aorus Xtreme

 

Tier C 300A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2970WX on ambient cooling (Cinebench R20) or 1.2V in Prime95

Asus: Zenith Extreme with cooling kit

 

Tier D 250A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2950X on ambient cooling, 2970WX limited to 1.15v (P95)

Asus: Zenith Extreme

MSI: Gaming Pro Carbon AC, SLI Plus

 

Tier E: 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 2920X and 1950X on ambient cooling

Asus: X399-E, X399-A

Asrock: Taichi (mATX & ATX), Professional Gaming

Gigabyte: Gaming 7, Designare EX, Aorus Pro

 

Tier F: 150A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1920X on ambient cooling

Asrock: Phantom 6

 

Tier G: 100A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 1900X on ambient cooling

Thank god nothing is here

 

sTRX4 (Ryzen Threadripper 3xxx) TRX40 (largely guessing since there's little data)

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Tier S: 500A current draw in low airflow condition (i.e. no case fan blowing over the VRM), maxed out 3990X (1.3v) with watercooling (to the point which it doesnt thermal throttle)

Asus: Zenith II Extreme Alpha, Zenith II Extreme

Gigabyte: Designare, Aorus Master, Aorus Xtreme

MSI: Creator


Tier A: 350A current draw in low airflow condition, 3990X conservative (1.2v) overclock
Asus: Prime Pro, Prime Pro S, TRX40-E, TRX40-XE

 

Tier B: 275A current draw in low airflow condition, 3990X locked to 300W PPT, maxed out 3970X

Gigabyte: Aorus Pro

MSI: Pro WiFi, Pro 10G

 

Tier C : 225A current draw in low airflow condition, 3970X stock and maxed out 3960X

Asrock: Taichi, Creator

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sources:

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Hardwareluxx.deVRM parts table (AM4 B350/X370/B450/X470)

 

Hardware UnboxedMSI X570 UnifyFlagship X570 VRM thermal testAffordable X570 VRM ThermalsBudget X570 VRM Thermals3950X on B450 boardsTRX40 boards with overclocked 3990XSome MSI boardsCheaper B550 board test

 

/u/CR1318 on reddit: Motherboard Tier List

 

Tweaktownbiostar x370gt7biostar x370gtn gamingbiostar a320mh pro gaming

 

BuildzoidGigabyte's Z390 lineupAsrock X470 Master SLIAsrock AB350M Pro 4, AB350 Pro 4 and AB350 Gaming K4ASUS Prime X470-ProAsrock X370 TaichiMSI X470 Gaming PlusMSI B450M Mortar TitaniumGigabyte Z390 Aorus XtremeASUS Maximus XI ApexGigabyte Z390 Aorus UltraMSI MEG X399 CreationGigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro WifiASUS TUF B450M-Pro GamingASUS TUF B450M-Pro GamingAsrock X470 Master SLI / Gaming K4"Asrock X470 Master SLI VRM temperature sensing is broken"EVGA Z370 MicroGigabyte B450M GamingEVGA Z390 FTWGigabyte X370 Gaming K5Asrock X570 Pro4Asus X570 Strix-EGigabyte x570MSI x570Asrock x570Asus x570Asus X570 Prime-PAsus X570 Strix-FGigabyte X570 Aorus Ultra; Gigabyte X570 Gaming X;

 

GN (Buidzoid)Best Motherboards for AMD Ryzen 2018 - AM4 X470 & B450Best Z390 Motherboards for VRMs, 10Gb LAN, Mini-ITX, Micro-ATX (2018)Best AM4 Motherboards for Overclocking (X370 & B350)EVGA X299 DARKMSI Z390 GodlikeASUS Maximus XI HeroASUS Crosshair VI Hero X370ASUS X399 Zenith ExtremeEVGA X299 DARK; MSI X570 Tomahawk

 

BitwitBiostar Racing X370 GTN

 

KitguruMSI TRX40 Creator

 

Sebelas HardwareBiostar Racing X370 GT3

 

hardwareinside.debiostar-racing x370gt5

 

play3r.netbiostar racing x370gt5

 

back2gaming.combiostar racing b350gt5

 

Proclockersbiostar h310mhd pro

 

de8auer: MSI X570 Tomahawk, Asus B550-E and B550M TUF-Plus WiFi

 

XFastest: Biostar B550 GTQ

 

 

Legacy list thread: Those looking to dive into Intel's outdated process node and recycled (for many times) architecture please refer to the old list

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Will you guys include A520 boards too?

 

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4 hours ago, Andrew the Kenyan said:

Will you guys include A520 boards too?

 

A520 answer is easy, stick to downdraft coolers (i.e. fan blows towards the mobo), stick to 65w TDP CPUs and do not attempt to increase.power limit nor overclock it

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@Jurrunio 
A quick question, did anything change since it says "B550 Speculation"?

My Goal is a Asrock B550 Steel Legend ATX with a 3700x.
But im not Sure if the Msi B550 Tomahawk is better.

In addition i will use the board longterm for the last AM4 gen aka the next one as well.
 

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10 hours ago, Zaiphonx2 said:

My Goal is a Asrock B550 Steel Legend ATX with a 3700x.
But im not Sure if the Msi B550 Tomahawk is better.

technically the tomahawk is better. 

if you're interested in the vrm, the steel legend uses 6 sic654's (50a drmos) doubled with ISL6617's iirc.

and the tomahawk uses 10 ISL99360's (60a SPS) in pairs. 

strictly out of these two, both will handle even the 16 core honestly. 

what are they priced at and budget for a board? but if you're limited to both of these, the tomahawk has the better vrm.

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13 hours ago, TofuHaroto said:

technically the tomahawk is better. 

if you're interested in the vrm, the steel legend uses 6 sic654's (50a drmos) doubled with ISL6617's iirc.

and the tomahawk uses 10 ISL99360's (60a SPS) in pairs. 

strictly out of these two, both will handle even the 16 core honestly. 

what are they priced at and budget for a board? but if you're limited to both of these, the tomahawk has the better vrm.

Thanks for the Info so far.
Only issue that i have is the ALC1200 on the Toma while the Steel has the newer ALC 1220, which seems sad...

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30 minutes ago, Zaiphonx2 said:

which seems sad

I personally don't care about the audio that's on the board but that's my opinion. 

The vrm on the tomahawk is better but both are more than enough for a 3700x.  

The IO on the tomahawk iirc is a bit lacking and the steel legend's IO is better so features wise the steel legend beats the tomahawk, but the tomahawk does have the better vrm but the steel legend's vrm is still capable and is more than enough for even the 3950x. 

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Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

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1 hour ago, Zaiphonx2 said:

Thanks for the Info so far.
Only issue that i have is the ALC1200 on the Toma while the Steel has the newer ALC 1220, which seems sad...

Do you have a high end audio system? Then invest in a sound card. You wont be hearing any difference between these two beyond the placebo effect.

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Friend of mine might be buying off my B550 Gaming Plus. Which leaves me with a perfect opportunity to "upgrade"

 

I'm going for white themed mobos and where I live, there's only 2 reasonably option(Vision D is ridiculously overpriced) which are the B550 Steel Legend(ATX) and the Strix B550-A Gaming

 

I know for a fact the Strix has superior VRM but from what I can see so far, the Steel Legend has better featureset(Type C header which my case supports, VRM sensor and onboard LED postcode and wifi m.2 slot which means I can stop using the wifi pcie adapter and just use the mobo slot). I'm still kinda torn over which one should I take. The Steel Legend is obviously cheaper and offers more feature but I'm not sure on how much worse is the VRM on it compared to the Strix-A.

 

Currently running a 3600 but I want something that I can toss in a 16core or whatever Ryzen 4000 has to offer, overclock the shit out of it and not worry about cooking off anything.

 

Which even the B550 Gaming Plus meets this requirement but I'm just curious either way

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10 hours ago, BlazeWingbreaker said:

Currently running a 3600 but I want something that I can toss in a 16core or whatever Ryzen 4000 has to offer,

Unless zen 3 is super power hungry and needs way more power than zen 2 (which i doubt) both can handle a 16 core, the strix A uses 12sic639's and the steel legend uses 6 sic654's doubled with ISL6617's in terms of features, the steel legend does have an inernal type c header and the strix a does not, but both have type c on the rear and the rear IO is similar between both of these, it comes down to what you need really but the vrm is solid on both of these.

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Peripherals: GK61 (Optical Gateron Red) with Mistel White/Orange keycaps, Logitech G102 (Purple), BitWit Ensemble Grey Deskpad. 

 

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1 hour ago, TofuHaroto said:

Unless zen 3 is super power hungry and needs way more power than zen 2 (which i doubt) both can handle a 16 core, the strix A uses 12sic639's and the steel legend uses 6 sic654's doubled with ISL6617's in terms of features, the steel legend does have an inernal type c header and the strix a does not, but both have type c on the rear and the rear IO is similar between both of these, it comes down to what you need really but the vrm is solid on both of these.

ah so the Strix-A has "true" 12 phase then? That should make it significantly better than the Steel Legend's doubled VRM no?

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10 hours ago, BlazeWingbreaker said:

That should make it significantly better than the Steel Legend's doubled VRM no?

It is a better vrm, but again both can handle the 3950x easily.

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4 minutes ago, BlazeWingbreaker said:

ah so the Strix-A has "true" 12 phase then? That should make it significantly better than the Steel Legend's doubled VRM no?

If it's anything like the X570-F, it's a 4 phase with three power stages per phase. 

Unless you're looking to overclock the snot out of a 3950X, even the Steel Legend will work fine. And even then some airflow on the VRM heatsinks will improve things, if you're a fan of the Steel Legend's feature set or whatever.

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Just now, Mateyyy said:

If it's anything like the X570-F, it's a 4 phase with three power stages per phase. 

Unless you're looking to overclock the snot out of a 3950X, even the Steel Legend will work fine. And even then some airflow on the VRM heatsinks will improve things, if you're a fan of the Steel Legend's feature set or whatever.

i would've picked the strix if it came with a type c and VRM sensor, but it doesn't

 

 

though i wonder if asrock's software side is good

 

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4 minutes ago, BlazeWingbreaker said:

i would've picked the strix if it came with a type c and VRM sensor, but it doesn't

though i wonder if asrock's software side is good

What do you mean by "VRM sensor"..?

Asrock's BIOS on B550 is okay from what I've heard.

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1 hour ago, Mateyyy said:

What do you mean by "VRM sensor"..?

Asrock's BIOS on B550 is okay from what I've heard.

VRM sensor that you can see via hwinfo64

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12 minutes ago, BlazeWingbreaker said:

VRM sensor that you can see via hwinfo64

ASUS' higher-end boards, as well as Strix and I think TUF as well, do have temperature monitoring on the VRMs. I know I do on my Strix Z390 board.

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14 minutes ago, BlazeWingbreaker said:

the Strix-A(which is a recolored Strix-F) lacks this

 

the E has it though

Yeah I just checked Guru3D's review of the Strix F and it seems that it indeed lacks temp sensors for the VRMs. Odd.

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1 hour ago, BlazeWingbreaker said:

not the first time Asus did this, I had an X470-F and it too lacked VRM temp sensors

Actually they all have sensors, you just cant access their data. They do shutdown when VRM overheats.

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10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Actually they all have sensors,

On extra circuitry on the board or what?

because i know that the sic639 does integrate some form of temperature monitoring but not sure about the sic654.

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8 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

On extra circuitry on the board or what?

because i know that the sic639 does integrate some form of temperature monitoring but not sure about the sic654.

Not sure. Could be as simple as a flag to the controller telling it to shutdown. 

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10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Could be as simple as a flag to the controller telling it to shutdown. 

Ah i was talking about temp monitoring but as for over temp protection, that's interesting.

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5 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

On extra circuitry on the board or what?

because i know that the sic639 does integrate some form of temperature monitoring but not sure about the sic654.

Pretty much all DrMOS power stages, to my knowledge, should have thermal sensing and therefore OTP and other protections, even if they're not readable through software.

So they're dumber than smart power stages, but not dumb enough to kill themselves by overheating or whatever, like some other MOSFETs on boards that shall not be named *cough* Asrock *cough* X470 Master SLI *cough*.

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