How to convince my family to let me upgrade to windows 10

[organfailure]

Hey, guys...

 

So, this is kinda ashaming, but how can I convince my parents to let me upgrade to windows 10, 

My dad keeps saying that "I will ruin it" etc...

I have no idea what to do as I have bought a program that can only run on windows 10 and I really wanna use it.

[amdorintel]

you can use windows 10 without activating it. i have done it and it works just fine

 

also what is your current computer setup?

 

[organfailure]

Just now, amdorintel said:

you can use windows 10 without activating it. i have done it and it works just fine

 

That is what I am planning to do first, then activate it. But, my dad does not allow me to do the usb method.

[amdorintel]

Just now, organfailure said:

That is what I am planning to do first, then activate it. But, my dad does not allow me to do the usb method.

are they concerned about the price of windows 10 o/s?

[organfailure]

Just now, amdorintel said:

are they concerned about the price of windows 10 o/s?

No, they do not even know about the prices.

They keep saying "You will break it; Do not touch it..." 

Basically, I just said if i could upgrade to windows 10 as it is better, faster and more effective

[amdorintel]

Just now, organfailure said:

No, they do not even know about the prices.

They keep saying "You will break it; Do not touch it..." 

Basically, I just said if i could upgrade to windows 10 as it is better, faster and more effective

 

what do you do with your computer?

what does your parents and family do with the computer?

[organfailure]

Just now, amdorintel said:

 

what do you do with your computer?

what does your parents and family do with the computer?

I, well use my computer for gaming, productivity and programming.

My parents basically use facebook.

[mariushm]

You can buy an extra ssd or mechanical hdd and install windows on your own drive

You can switch at start-up by pressing F8 or some other key before windows starts booting..

[amdorintel]

2 minutes ago, organfailure said:

I, well use my computer for gaming, productivity and programming.

My parents basically use facebook.

you get paid for productivity and programming or is that code for school work?

[3 Lions]

What Windows is it running currently? 

[organfailure]

Just now, mariushm said:

You can buy an extra ssd or mechanical hdd and install windows on your own drive

You can switch at start-up by pressing F8 or some other key before windows starts booting..

I am pretty much broke right now, and buying an extra ssd would be too long as of I have to upgrade to windows 10 tommorow.

[organfailure]

Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

What Windows is it running currently? 

Windows 7

[organfailure]

1 minute ago, amdorintel said:

you get paid for productivity and programming or is that code for school work?

It is just for fun, but sometimes I get paid if I help someone make something.

[3 Lions]

Just now, organfailure said:

Windows 7

They'll have to give in eventually, support for Windows 7 ends on 14th January 2020. Just say that after that point the PC will be less secure, which it will be. 

[organfailure]

Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

They'll have to give in eventually, support for Windows 7 ends on 14th January 2020. Just say that after that point the PC will be less secure, which it will be. 

Hmm, alright. I guess it should work!  Thanks 

[amdorintel]

1 minute ago, organfailure said:

It is just for fun, but sometimes I get paid if I help someone make something.

hmmmm the family dynamics in your case is very interesting

i like to analyze human behaviour and its all very interesting

 

parents are: If its working leave it alone

but if the old os is w7 then an argument can be made to update the os, then the question becomes are they tech literate enough to understand or not. if your old os is w8 then you still have lots of time left on the windows update clock.

 

have you ever installed an os before?

[Mark Kaine]

Did you ask your parents what they will do after Jan 14 2020?

 

Are they planning to just use fb like nothing happened or...? 

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4467761/windows-what-happens-when-windows-7-support-ends

 

[mariushm]

You don't HAVE to do anything in such a short period. Explain why it absolutely has to be tomorrow

You could also, in theory, shrink the partition by some amount and create another partition, then install windows 10 on that newly created partition. 

Lots of partition manager software can do that.

 

Alternatively, just install Virtualbox and install Windows 10 within Virtualbox ... you can leave it without activation for 30 days.

 

It will do everything except run 3d games.

 

 

[3 Lions]

Just now, organfailure said:

Hmm, alright. I guess it should work!  Thanks 

I mean everyone using a PC wants to be secure, right?  

[organfailure]

13 hours ago, amdorintel said:

hmmmm the family dynamics in your case is very interesting

i like to analyze human behaviour and its all very interesting

 

parents are: If its working leave it alone

but if the old os is w7 then an argument can be made to update the os, then the question becomes are they tech literate enough to understand or not. if your old os is w8 then you still have lots of time left on the windows update clock.

 

have you ever installed an os before?

No, I did not install a OS before, but my friend who installed a OS already, will help me. Well, pretty sure they can understand if I explain it to them.

 

13 hours ago, mariushm said:

You don't HAVE to do anything in such a short period. Explain why it absolutely has to be tomorrow

You could also, in theory, shrink the partition by some amount and create another partition, then install windows 10 on that newly created partition. 

Lots of partition manager software can do that.

 

Alternatively, just install Virtualbox and install Windows 10 within Virtualbox ... you can leave it without activation for 30 days.

 

It will do everything except run 3d games.

 

 

Well, I just helped with a hacked client related to a game  and I have to test it as I have to send it to the owner.

Also, I feel like going full on upgrade not with just a ssd or vb.

 

13 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Did you ask your parents what they will do after Jan 14 2020?

 

Are they planning to just use fb like nothing happened or...? 

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4467761/windows-what-happens-when-windows-7-support-ends

 

No, I did not.

 

But, I will mention it!  Thanks!

 

13 hours ago, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

I mean everyone using a PC wants to be secure, right?  

Yeah, lol!

[mariushm]

Just now, Mark Kaine said:

Did you ask your parents what they will do after Jan 14 2020?

 

Are they planning to just use fb like nothing happened or...? 

 

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4467761/windows-what-happens-when-windows-7-support-ends

 

 

Nothing will happen after Windows 7 support ends on the 14th. It's not like it's gonna be end of the world.

You just won' get Windows Updates anymore. They're already not getting Windows updates - I doubt he or his parents are downloading manually the cumulative monthly security updates (ex November 2019 rollup: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4525235 )

 

You also won't get email or phone support or whatever support companies get, which you didn't do anyway, so you're not losing anything.

 

Stop scaring people... antiviruses will continue to work on Windows 7, the OS will continue to work, if it works fine now no reason to upgrade to a more bloated operating system.

 

You can run virtual machine in Windows 7, if it's a somewhat modern computer it supports virtualization and all that, so it will be snappy.

 

[3 Lions]

2 minutes ago, mariushm said:

antiviruses will continue to work on Windows 7

Anti-virus software is not the be all and end all. People who create viruses are very clever and can create viruses that even anti-virus software cannot detect. 

[mariushm]

Just now, LinusTechTipsFanFromDarlo said:

Anti-virus software is not the be all and end all. People who create viruses are very clever and can create viruses that even anti-virus software cannot detect. 

Then just be smart about it and don't download stupid crap from porn sites and whatever.

 

Didn't you read? He wants to mess up the computer (he admits he never installed Windows 10 before) only because he has a hacked client and he needs to install windows TODAY to test the hack - he probably wants to cheat in some game or something like that.

He doesn't give a shit about computer running better with Windows 10 and doesn't really care about higher security.

Not worth bothering to help such people.

[3 Lions]

1 hour ago, mariushm said:

doesn't really care about higher security.

Well if that's the case then why do thousands of elderly and tech illiterate people still fall for these Microsoft tech support scams? 

 

But oh no, they obviously don't give a shit about security... 

[SenKa]

2 hours ago, mariushm said:

Didn't you read? He wants to mess up the computer (he admits he never installed Windows 10 before)

As if it's any different from any other Windows installer...

 

You don't even need to DO anything, free upgrades still work. Just install the media creation utility and use it to run the upgrade.

 

2 hours ago, mariushm said:

...only because he has a hacked client and he needs to install windows TODAY to test the hack - he probably wants to cheat in some game or something like that.

And why do you care? You certainly act like this kids parent, but I doubt you are.

 

2 hours ago, mariushm said:

He doesn't give a shit about computer running better with Windows 10 and doesn't really care about higher security.

 

2 hours ago, mariushm said:

Not worth bothering to help such people.

But you tried to help him