What does it make a mobo better than another?

[ReadyPlayerOne]

In a quality prospective what does make a mobo better than another?

When i'm looking for a mobo, after the i/o what should i looking for? Stability and lifetime are important to me, how can i know which one is better?

I read something about vrm for overclockers, more vrm are really better for overclock?

[FloRolf]

Well yes, more and better VRM's supply "cleaner" power to the cpu and therefore allowing for better overclocks and lifetime. Other features are audio chips, NICs, PCIe slots and other internal connectivity, cooling solutions etc. 

[Guest]

49 minutes ago, ReadyPlayerOne said:

In a quality prospective what does make a mobo better than another?

When i'm looking for a mobo, after the i/o what should i looking for? Stability and lifetime are important to me, how can i know which one is better?

I read something about vrm for overclockers, more vrm are really better for overclock?

Most boards from the bigger brands are going to be pretty good in terms of overall quality, but what would count as a 'better' board for you depends on what you want out of it. Some have very limited external I/O while others bundle WiFi and Bluetooth and pack like twelve USB ports. The VRM is important as others have stated, even if you're not overclocking, but really you'll need to concentrate on one that'll satisfy your needs. How many PCIe slots do you need? Form factor? Connections? Bundled features? Hell even take color into consideration if you're trying to match it to the rest of your rig.

[ReadyPlayerOne]

Thanks for your replies, talking about vrm what does it mean 3+3 or 4+2 wich combo is better?

 

looking some sheet on the web like

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Smj5dh97n32wJqm5dkdDcQt8ID7vH52-lKzaaXUUQx8/edit#gid=0

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

 

seem there is no matx mobo with more than 4vrm (4+2) since matx is what i want (with one asrock exception), do you think a 4+2 will be fine to overclock a ryzen 3700x withouth compromise the system health?

 

ps: i'm interested to understand why there is 3+3 and 4+2 and not just 6 thank you

[ReadyPlayerOne]

no one? it's something i whould really like to understand

@Stylized_Violence @FloRolf@Genwyn

 

 

[FloRolf]

2 hours ago, ReadyPlayerOne said:

no one? it's something i whould really like to understand

@Stylized_Violence @FloRolf@Genwyn

 

 

Imma quote Gamers Nexus for this. 

 

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When shopping for motherboards, you'll likely run across the phase power design terminology in marketing text. This is the specification that describes the number of phases dedicated across the board and to all components. Phase power design is often listed as 4+1, 6+2, 8+3, etc. The number preceding the plus sign (4, 6, and 8 in those examples) is indicative of the number of phases dedicated to the CPU, thus a 6+2 phase power design will dedicate 6 phases to cleaning CPU power. The number after the plus is for other components, often RAM or HT (HyperTransport) for AMD. Just like the CPU, more phases to RAM will help control voltage supply and allow for greater overclocking, but the RAM phases are significantly less impactful than the CPU phases.

 

 

If you want to learn more, go here:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1229-anatomy-of-a-motherboard-what-is-a-vrm-mosfet?showall=1

 

[ReadyPlayerOne]

42 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Imma quote Gamers Nexus for this. 

 

 

 

If you want to learn more, go here:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1229-anatomy-of-a-motherboard-what-is-a-vrm-mosfet?showall=1

 

thank you very much

 

[ReadyPlayerOne]

11 hours ago, FloRolf said:

Imma quote Gamers Nexus for this. 

 

 

 

If you want to learn more, go here:

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1229-anatomy-of-a-motherboard-what-is-a-vrm-mosfet?showall=1

 

Somethingi did not found is what does it mean when you see i.e. 6x2 on vrm is the same as 6+6 intended 6 for cpu and 6 for other components?

[FloRolf]

1 hour ago, ReadyPlayerOne said:

Somethingi did not found is what does it mean when you see i.e. 6x2 on vrm is the same as 6+6 intended 6 for cpu and 6 for other components?

Can you link an example? 

I'd guess it's the same as 6+6, yeah. 

[ReadyPlayerOne]

1 hour ago, FloRolf said:

Can you link an example? 

I'd guess it's the same as 6+6, yeah. 

i.e. in this spreadsheet you can see a lot of x570 mobo do have a kind of x 2

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

[FloRolf]

14 minutes ago, ReadyPlayerOne said:

i.e. in this spreadsheet you can see a lot of x570 mobo do have a kind of x 2

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

That's actually all of them therefore it's the same, either use + or x/*

[Boyohan]

On 11/3/2019 at 9:25 AM, ReadyPlayerOne said:

seem there is no matx mobo with more than 4vrm (4+2) since matx is what i want (with one asrock exception), do you think a 4+2 will be fine to overclock a ryzen 3700x withouth compromise the system health?

 

High end mATX boards are not easy to find. 

The only really high end mATX board I know of is on Z390 chipset for Intel.

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-XI-GENE/

But Asus doesn't have any equivallent X470/X570 for AMD.

 

Why do you specifically want a mATX board ?

Is it because you think ATX boards are unnecessary and too big ?

It will be easier for you to look for a good ITX board but maybe that doesn't quite have the expansion slots you want ?

 

[ReadyPlayerOne]

34 minutes ago, Boyohan said:

High end mATX boards are not easy to find. 

The only really high end mATX board I know of is on Z390 chipset for Intel.

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-MAXIMUS-XI-GENE/

But Asus doesn't have any equivallent X470/X570 for AMD.

 

Why do you specifically want a mATX board ?

Is it because you think ATX boards are unnecessary and too big ?

It will be easier for you to look for a good ITX board but maybe that doesn't quite have the expansion slots you want ?

 

matx is what my case are capable of, mitx are usually too much expensive and unecessary little for my use case.

I'm thinking to change case to put an atx mobo

[Boyohan]

3 hours ago, ReadyPlayerOne said:

matx is what my case are capable of, mitx are usually too much expensive and unecessary little for my use case.

I'm thinking to change case to put an atx mobo

Changing case and going ATX is probably best. It gives you much more options when choosing a mobo.