SLi?

[Vance44]

SLI ... How do you tell which graphics cards support it ?

And is running to graphics cards together ona sli really worth it? 

 

Edited October 17, 2019 by Vance44

[Princess Luna]

SLI is basically dead at this point, if you have the option always get the single best video card you can get instead of going with two.

[Tristerin]

Ive Xfired (AMDs version) only when I happened to have the same GPU (I typically have multiple rigs going in the house).  My last variation was 2x HD7850 GPU's - when it works it helps.  Typically it didn't work.  New titles?  Not until driver support unless the engine was built to accept Xfire.

 

Im going to Xfire my Fury's - but only because Ill be doing as @Princess Luna said - replacing my RR1 in sig with a single powerful GPU...since Im not prepared to upgrade mine Ill go ahead and crossfire it in my RR2...

What I expect?  More power draw, higher electric bill, troubleshooting, and sometimes it working.  For me part of the fun is just messing with the hardware though.

[Guest]

Microsutter kind of kills it.

Well and everyone else killed it.

Totally worth it if you don't like money though.

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

What I expect?  More power draw, higher electric bill, troubleshooting, and sometimes it working.  For me part of the fun is just messing with the hardware though.

Crossfire should be even funnier to mess around, specially on how AMD straight out phased it out now

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

What I expect?  More power draw, higher electric bill, troubleshooting, and sometimes it working.  For me part of the fun is just messing with the hardware though.

^^^ This. I ran SLI 1080s for a bit, but couldn't be arsed to tinker with them so I moved to single cards. Lowkey wanna try SLI again now that I know more though, and dual cards do look pretty af. Also, if you play games that actually scale well you can get some insane performance. I slapped Battlefront 2015 to 1440p and 4K ultra with no AA, pushed 200fps flat and 134-144fps, respectively. That game scaled to 99% usage on both cards though, all the others I played just had horrible input lag, screen tearing, stuttering, or just acted the same as with a single card. 

[Vance44]

performance comparisons between the twoSo with that being said I should do some research and find out how much of an upgrade it would be to upgrade to a RGX 2080 from an RTX 2070

I've been trying to find some performance comparisons between the two did they stop making the RTX 2070? I have not seen the regular 2070 anywhere I see the super

There's a lot of research to be done now on these cards I guess

[Enderman]

Yeah don't even bother with SLI, just sell your GPU and buy a better one if you need more performance.

[DildorTheDecent]

7 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Battlefront 2015

Most DICE games are excellent. Had good fun hitting the 200FPS cap in BF4.

 

Off the top of my head I can remember Crysis2/3 and Witcher 3 having great scaling. I think Tomb Raider (2013) was good but idk. DOOM (2016) too I think.

[Vance44]

Like I said I don't even find the 2070 on the market anymore did they stop making it

I've been trying to find comparisons in performance between the 2070 and the 2080

And there is none mainly because I can't find the 2070 anywhere I don't even think anybody owns one? Lol

What that means said I have to research specs and performance because now they have the new super line out

 

which to me is cheaper than the original for example they have a 2070 super a 2060 super and a 2080 super which so far from what I've seen all of the specs in the performance are the same as the originals but for whatever reason they are cheaper?

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Most DICE games are excellent. Had good fun hitting the 200FPS cap in BF4.

 

Off the top of my head I can remember Crysis2/3 and Witcher 3 having great scaling. I think Tomb Raider (2013) was good but idk. DOOM (2016) too I think.

Rise of the Tomb Raider was an oof, even though it was supposed to work with some quick tweaks. And sadly DICE's Battlefront II 2017 was nothing like the original, it was a horrible experience. I didn't have Witcher 3 at the time, never tried Tomb Raider, and haven't had DOOM 

EDIT @Vance44 after spending one second typing "RTX 2070" into Google: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2070/

OEMs don't delete specs sheets for their hardware, hell mobo manufacturers still have BIOS files and everything for mobos going back to the early 2000s and probably older. 

[Vance44]

2 minutes ago, DildorTheDecent said:

Most DICE games are excellent. Had good fun hitting the 200FPS cap in BF4.

 

Off the top of my head I can remember Crysis2/3 and Witcher 3 having great scaling. I think Tomb Raider (2013) was good but idk. DOOM (2016) too I think.

That's cool... better game performance would be nice but I guess I forgot to mention that I'm going for more 4K video rendering and playback performance

[Vance44]

3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Rise of the Tomb Raider was an oof, even though it was supposed to work with some quick tweaks. And sadly DICE's Battlefront II 2017 was nothing like the original, it was a horrible experience. I didn't have Witcher 3 at the time, never tried Tomb Raider, and haven't had DOOM 

EDIT @Vance44 after spending one second typing "RTX 2070" into Google: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2070/

OEMs don't delete specs sheets for their hardware, hell mobo manufacturers still have BIOS files and everything for mobos going back to the early 2000s and probably older. 

For some reason I just don't see 2070s anywhere

 

How much performance do you think I could get by switching to a 2080?  

Do you know what the difference is between a 2080 and a 2080 super?

Wire the new 2080 super is cheaper than just a regular 2080?

[Zando_]

2 minutes ago, Vance44 said:

For some reason I just don't see 2070s anywhere

 

How much performance do you think I could get by switching to a 2080?  

Do you know what the difference is between a 2080 and a 2080 super?

Wire the new 2080 super is cheaper than just a regular 2080?

Can still find the specs easily

Uh IDK, look up benchmarks for the 2070 and they should have the 2080 on the charts as well (Hardware Unboxed does an excellent set of tests most of the time, with a nice big graph featuring a lot of GPUs)
The 2080 Super is like 3-5% faster or something, whereas the 2070 Super is a good improvement over the 2070
IDK, markets are weird and the 2080 Super has the same MSRP IIRC, and Nvidia would be making more of them?

[Vance44]

3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

Can still find the specs easily

Uh IDK, look up benchmarks for the 2070 and they should have the 2080 on the charts as well (Hardware Unboxed does an excellent set of tests most of the time, with a nice big graph featuring a lot of GPUs)
The 2080 Super is like 3-5% faster or something, whereas the 2070 Super is a good improvement over the 2070
IDK, markets are weird and the 2080 Super has the same MSRP IIRC, and Nvidia would be making more of them?

Well I guess if I'm gonna upgrade I might as well go all out and upgrade to the 2080 ti that's even faster lol

[Zando_]

Just now, Vance44 said:

Well I guess if I'm gonna upgrade I might as well go all out and upgrade to the 2080 ti that's even faster lol

They're damn good in CUDA render tasks as well IIRC, so it'd definitely be a solid choice. Can sell the 2070 to make up some of the difference, or keep it for a secondary rig. 

[Vance44]

12 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

They're damn good in CUDA render tasks as well IIRC, so it'd definitely be a solid choice. Can sell the 2070 to make up some of the difference, or keep it for a secondary rig. 

What do you think a 2070 would go for that's not even quite a year old yet?

 

So I've looked through nvidia's cards online What is the best thing to look for? I see a 1660 has a higher clock speed than a 2060 or 2070?

It may have a higher clock speed according to their specs but the cudas are not as good?

[Zando_]

3 minutes ago, Vance44 said:

What do you think a 2070 would go for that's not even quite a year old yet?

 

So I've looked through nvidia's cards online What is the best thing to look for? I see a 1660 has a higher clock speed than a 2060 or 2070?

It may have a higher clock speed according to their specs but the cudas are not as good?

I think around $350-400, maybe $450? Check r/hardware swap and eBay to try and figure out average pricing. 

And yeah, lower cores are usually clocked higher. But more cores at a reasonable clockspeed is better for rendering. The Vega 64 can beat the Radeon VII in some stuff due to having 64CUs, the RVII has a higher clock but only 60CUs. Or the 980 Ti vs the 1070, both about the same in games, but the 980 Ti has way more CUDA cores and beats it in editing. The 2080 Ti should have the best CUDA core/clockspeed combo of them all, that's why it's the best performer in the series in both games and rendering. I think the Titan RTX may beat it by a few %, but that costs literally twice the amount ($1000-1400 for a 2080 Ti depending on model, $2400 for a Titan RTX), the only possible reason to get one is an absolute hate for money, or you really need the extra VRAM. 

[MadmanRB]

SLI is pretty much dead in 2019, it has its proposes yes but I echo the notion of just getting a single card of the best one you can afford.

[Vance44]

So here's a question I know nothing about the founders edition graphics cards what are the differences between those and the regulars or the supers?

[Zando_]

7 minutes ago, Vance44 said:

So here's a question I know nothing about the founders edition graphics cards what are the differences between those and the regulars or the supers?

On this gen Nvidia has kept the best bins for an FE, so you kinda sorta have a higherish maybe chance of getting a better overclocker if you put them on water, but AIB ones seem to do fine as well so I guess it's neither here nor there. They do have actually good coolers this time around though (but AIBs still push better temps depending on the model), so if they're the cheapest cards and you don't mind the look - I actually love the look btw - then yoink one. 

[Vance44]

3 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

On this gen Nvidia has kept the best bins for an FE, so you kinda sorta have a higherish maybe chance of getting a better overclocker if you put them on water, but AIB ones seem to do fine as well so I guess it's neither here nor there. They do have actually good coolers this time around though (but AIBs still push better temps depending on the model), so if they're the cheapest cards and you don't mind the look - I actually love the look btw - then yoink one. 

I really don't care about lunch I just want the best performance possible I just want to make sure I'm picking the right card if I'm upgrading

It looks to me like the 2080 super is just slightly better than the regular 2080 and I don't have to quite spend a thousand dollars for it that might be the best bet I'm gonna have to do some research and find out what kind of benchmarks that you have

 

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Vance44 said:

I really don't care about lunch I just want the best performance possible I just want to make sure I'm picking the right card if I'm upgrading

It looks to me like the 2080 super is just slightly better than the regular 2080 and I don't have to quite spend a thousand dollars for it that might be the best bet I'm gonna have to do some research and find out what kind of benchmarks that you have

The 2080 or 2080 Super would be a solid card as well. If you want the best out of the box performance, get a higher end model with a good cooler. They typically come with higher stock clocks already (called a factory overclock), and GPU boost on these cards is very temperature sensitive. The cooler the card stays, the higher it will boost itself. 

For example my EVGA XC Ultra 1660 Ti quotes a stock boost of 1860Mhz. It has quite a good cooler though, so it'll boost itself to around 1900-2000Mhz without needing any manual settings. I run it at a manual +100, it stays at around 2040Mhz without much wobbling under 24/7 F@H load. Average temp is 58C, if I were to ramp down the fans and let it run hotter, it'd probably downclock a bit. 

[Vance44]

What would you recommend the question mark

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Vance44 said:

What would you recommend the question mark

I prefer EVGA's stuff for the usual build quality, warranty, and their customer support (note I'm also in the US, IDK where you are so they may not be as easy to get to). Their top end is the FTW3, the SC/XC series is usually good as well. ASUS STRIX models are stellar as well. I believe Gigabyte has some good models, but they can often be form over function. MSI has the Gaming X series, though they may have some new high end ones, I forget what their lineup for this gen is.