i7 4790 w/ 2080 Super

[Fireman48]

Hey guys. I’m fairly new to the forms but I wanted to toss out a question for y’all. Before we even get started, I know the 4790 is an older CPU. I recently picked up a 2080 Super FTW3 for an amazing price I couldn’t turn down. While playing some games (GTAV primarily) I’ve noticed my frames are absolutely horrible. I do have some graphical mods in, which didn’t fair too bad with my old setup (GTX 1060, approximately 40-45 FPS). I’ve seen benchmarks of GTA with a 2080 and 4790 along with a 1080ti and a 4790 and those benchmarks seem amazing, 80-100FPS. However, with my current setup, I’m struggling to pull 40FPS. Could I be CPU Bottlenecking with this processor? Or am I missing something in my settings that could just be screwing my operation? I’m currently playing at 1080p 60hz (yes, I’m planning to upgrade to 1440p). If any of y’all could give some in-site, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you again!

 

Specs -

CPU - Intel i7 4790

GPU - RTX 2080 Super FTW3

RAM - 32 GB HyperX Fury - 1866MHz

Mobo - Asus Z87-PLUS 
PSU - Thermaltake 650w Gold 

HDD - (2) 1TB Drives

[Chronified]

Bottleneck calculator shows a 40% bottleneck , which is what you're experiencing. 

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Core_i7-4790/GeForce_RTX_2080_SUPER/0zU14vlu/32/

 

I'd suggest selling the motherboard+CPU+ram and getting a Ryzen 5 2600 (easily found for 40-50% off right now) 16GB of 3200mhz and a simple motherboard. 

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13 minutes ago, Fireman48 said:

I’ve seen benchmarks of GTA with a 2080 and 4790 along with a 1080ti and a 4790 and those benchmarks seem amazing, 80-100FPS. However, with my current setup, I’m struggling to pull 40FPS.

no, something else is wrong, you should see similar results

retry with : reset games settings / check gpu drivers/ temps 

[GoldenLag]

7 minutes ago, Chronified said:

I'd suggest selling the motherboard+CPU+ram and getting a Ryzen 5 2600 (easily found for 40-50% off right now)

in GTA thats unlikely to yield any increase in performance. 

7 minutes ago, Chronified said:

Bottleneck calculator shows a 40% bottleneck , which is what you're experiencing. 

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Core_i7-4790/GeForce_RTX_2080_SUPER/0zU14vlu/32/

bottleneck calculators are really innaccurate when looking at specific games, or even on average performance limitations. edit: in other words, dont use them, they are worse than userbenchmark by a lot. 

18 minutes ago, Fireman48 said:

’ve noticed my frames are absolutely horrible.

im assuming you did the standard procedure of DDU and reinstalling drivers. 

18 minutes ago, Fireman48 said:

I’m struggling to pull 40FPS. Could I be CPU Bottlenecking with this processor?

in other words the framerate got worse after upgrading the GPU?

 

 

 

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(easily found for 40-50% off right now)

thats just the Salesprice right now, they go for about 120$ and the original MSRP is 200$. its not a special offer. 

[Chronified]

I was running an FX 8350 and was only getting about 40-50fps on high settings x2 AA with my 1660ti. 

After upgrading to a Ryzen 5 2600 a few weeks ago I can now crank the games settings to Ultra with x16 AA and keep 60fps stable (running 5760x1080 Nvidia surround)

 

GTA is very CPU dependent, especially when it comes time to start pushing more than 60fps. 

 

Did you remember to go into Nvidia Control Panel, to Manage 3D settings and change power management to "prefer maximum performance" and texture filtering to "high performance" ? They're set to their optimal power modes by default. Easily a 10-15% increase in FPS just changing those 2 settings. 

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Just now, Chronified said:

Did you remember to go into Nvidia Control Panel, to Manage 3D settings and change power management to "prefer maximum performance" and texture filtering to "high performance" ? They're set to their optimal power modes by default. Easily a 10-15% increase in FPS just changing those 2 settings. 

i think that make 5fps diff at most?

played with i5 2500 + gtx970 near ultra everthing with 50~60 fps

[WereCat]

Have you uninstalled the old drivers with DDU and then installed new ones after you swapped cards? 

[Fireman48]

13 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Have you uninstalled the old drivers with DDU and then installed new ones after you swapped cards? 

When I installed my new card, I tossed it in and updated my drivers through GeForce Experience doing a clean install. Should I use DDU and uninstall then reinstall drivers with GeForce?

[Fireman48]

30 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

in GTA thats unlikely to yield any increase in performance. 

bottleneck calculators are really innaccurate when looking at specific games, or even on average performance limitations. edit: in other words, dont use them, they are worse than userbenchmark by a lot. 

im assuming you did the standard procedure of DDU and reinstalling drivers. 

in other words the framerate got worse after upgrading the GPU?

 

 

 

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thats just the Salesprice right now, they go for about 120$ and the original MSRP is 200$. its not a special offer. 

Correct performance got worse after installing the new card. I understand the 4790 isn’t the best processor on the market, but it’s still rated quite high in gaming from what I’ve read..

[WereCat]

6 minutes ago, Fireman48 said:

When I installed my new card, I tossed it in and updated my drivers through GeForce Experience doing a clean install. Should I use DDU and uninstall then reinstall drivers with GeForce?

Yes 

 

also your CPU is not the issue there 

[Fireman48]

Just now, WereCat said:

Yes 

This may sound silly, but I’m not too familiar with drivers, what effect could that be causing? Wouldn’t the clean install from GeForce remove those previous GPU drivers from the 1060?

[WereCat]

2 minutes ago, Fireman48 said:

This may sound silly, but I’m not too familiar with drivers, what effect could that be causing? Wouldn’t the clean install from GeForce remove those previous GPU drivers from the 1060?

it doesn't remove everything 

it often leaves traces from the old drivers 

 

ddu can remove those as well 

[Fireman48]

Just now, WereCat said:

it doesn't remove everything 

it often leaves traces from the old drivers 

 

ddu can remove those as well 

Okay! Thank you for the information! Could those traces be causing this low performance??

[WereCat]

1 minute ago, Fireman48 said:

Okay! Thank you for the information! Could those traces be causing this low performance??

Yes, they could. 

 

It may not be the case but its always a good thing to try first 

[Fireman48]

1 minute ago, WereCat said:

Yes, they could. 

 

It may not be the case but its always a good thing to try first 

Okay. And will I lose any promotional offers or anything that I’ve already claimed through nvidia?

[WereCat]

1 minute ago, Fireman48 said:

Okay. And will I lose any promotional offers or anything that I’ve already claimed through nvidia?

no

that's tied to your account 

[Fireman48]

Just now, WereCat said:

no

Perfect. I’ll give it a go as soon as I get home from work! Thank you again!

[Mick Naughty]

Was system usage annotated on both cards?

 

prolly just needs the driver reinstalled as they will still be the same. 

[DoctorNick]

6 hours ago, Chronified said:

Bottleneck calculator shows a 40% bottleneck , which is what you're experiencing. 

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/Core_i7-4790/GeForce_RTX_2080_SUPER/0zU14vlu/32/

 

I'd suggest selling the motherboard+CPU+ram and getting a Ryzen 5 2600 (easily found for 40-50% off right now) 16GB of 3200mhz and a simple motherboard. 

R5 2600 won't make much difference in most games. Actually worse in some games, because of lower clockspeed. Speaking from experience. Upgraded from 4970K to R7 2700X. DDU is the way to go. Run in safe mode (go to settings in DDU and set safe mode)

[Fireman48]

**Update**
 

After removing drivers and reinstalling, along with setting my card to max performance, I'm now getting 50-60 FPS steadily in GTAV. Thank you guys for all the helpful tips and the ultimate solution to my problem!

[gepowr]

3 hours ago, Fireman48 said:

**Update**
 

After removing drivers and reinstalling, along with setting my card to max performance, I'm now getting 50-60 FPS steadily in GTAV. Thank you guys for all the helpful tips and the ultimate solution to my problem!

Are those 50-60fps in single player GTA V or the online mode? I have a 4790k with a GTX 1080 myself and i'm definitely getting 100+ fps in single player. FPS in online may vary due to player count and server limitations. I feel like you should be getting at least 90fps in single player. Can you share your ingame settings (are you using the advanced graphical options?) aswell as cpu temps here ?

[Fireman48]

1 hour ago, gepowr said:

Are those 50-60fps in single player GTA V or the online mode? I have a 4790k with a GTX 1080 myself and i'm definitely getting 100+ fps in single player. FPS in online may vary due to player count and server limitations. I feel like you should be getting at least 90fps in single player. Can you share your ingame settings (are you using the advanced graphical options?) aswell as cpu temps here ?

Single Player.

[gepowr]

30 minutes ago, Fireman48 said:

Single Player.

Well that's odd then. Are you sure the 4790 is not thermal throttling ? What are your ingame settings ?

[Fireman48]

51 minutes ago, gepowr said:

Well that's odd then. Are you sure the 4790 is not thermal throttling ? What are your ingame settings ?

Very high in most, water is on normal, and grass is at very high.