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2 minutes ago, Vishera said:

Glad to help,i wanted to get to the bottom of the problem to make sure that money isn't unnecessarily wasted :)

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thanks again

So i upgraded my old graphics card to new one from GTX 750 Ti to GTX Sinx 970 and am getting worse fps, i use to get 60+ fps in CSGO with 750 but with 970 am now hardly hitting 40 fps mark i even upgraded my power supply i bought EVGA 500W and even that didnt make a difference.Please help am not a big tech guy .

 

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AMD A10-7860K Radeon R7,12 Compute Cores 4C+8G 3.60hdz

RAM:8.95GB

GPU:GTX Sinx 970

PowerSupply:Evga 500w

Motherboard:GIGABYTE GA F2A68HM HD2

 

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Download DDU and clear the old drivers and then download new drivers and see how that works

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I don't think that APU is doing that card any favors.

 

 

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I would do as @shaz2sxy suggested, however I don't think it will do much good as the system isn't well balanced now, the 750ti paired better with your CPU. Throwing in a more powerful GPU is causing a bottleneck(your CPU is to weak to keep up with the new GPU). If you want to see an improvement you'll need to upgrade your CPU to something that will pair better with the 970.

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2 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

I would do as @shaz2sxy suggested, however I don't think it will do much good as the system isn't well balanced now, the 750ti paired better with your CPU. Throwing in a more powerful GPU is causing a bottleneck(your CPU is to weak to keep up with the new GPU). If you want to see an improvement you'll need to upgrade your CPU to something that will pair better with the 970.

Do you have any suggestions on what CPU i should get ?

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1 minute ago, IronaSona said:

Do you have any suggestions on what CPU i should get ?

On your current platform nothing it's full upgrade time.

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4 minutes ago, IronaSona said:

Do you have any suggestions on what CPU i should get ?

Unfortunately the highest you could go with that board is the A10-8750, but that is not at all worth spending money on. I would recommend a full platform upgrade. Ryzen is a fantastic option, if you would like suggestions, give me a budget and your country and I can throw an upgrade list together for you.

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2 minutes ago, jaslion said:

On your current platform nothing it's full upgrade time.

What things do i need to upgrade and do you have suggestion what i should get so my Graphics card would work better ?

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5 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

Unfortunately the highest you could go with that board is the A10-8750, but that is not at all worth spending money on. I would recommend a full platform upgrade. Ryzen is a fantastic option, if you would like suggestions, give me a budget and your country and I can throw an upgrade list together for you.

i could approximately spend around 400-500 USA dollars

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19 minutes ago, IronaSona said:

i use to get 60+ fps in CSGO with 750 but with 970 am now hardly hitting 40 fps mark

For what is worth it CS:GO is CPU Intensive so a new GPU shouldn't improve a whole lot since your CPU is fairly weak by today standards.

 

That said you changed architectures, from Fermi to Maxwell on the GPU so you should indeed DDU in Safe Mode and install the drivers fresh new.

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10 minutes ago, SpookyCitrus said:

I would do as @shaz2sxy suggested, however I don't think it will do much good as the system isn't well balanced now, the 750ti paired better with your CPU. Throwing in a more powerful GPU is causing a bottleneck(your CPU is to weak to keep up with the new GPU). If you want to see an improvement you'll need to upgrade your CPU to something that will pair better with the 970.

I agree the CPU is a bottleneck BUT it shouldn't reduce the FPS compared to the 750ti

 

you would expect it to be on par or a higher

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cpu is bottleneck, reduction in performance wise only thing i can think of is temps from gpu increased cpu temps increased thermal throttling and as cpu is bottleneck u got worse fps only thing i can think off.

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So what do you all think i should upgrade and to what? , so i would get good performance using my 970 ?

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1 minute ago, IronaSona said:

So what do you all think i should upgrade and to what? , so i would get good performance using my 970 ?

Have you tried DDU the driver first?

 

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

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38 minutes ago, IronaSona said:

RAM:8.95GB

Well that might be a problem. Is there supposed to be 2x8GB RAM?

Maybe hardware reserved 7.05GB?

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1 minute ago, Tan3l6 said:

Well that might be a problem. Is there supposed to be 2x8GB RAM?

yes

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3 minutes ago, IronaSona said:

yes

Perhaps try swapping them or just reseating. Pull out and insert in again.

And try to disable integrated GPU if thats possible.

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Just now, Tan3l6 said:

Perhaps try swapping them or just reseating.

And what RAM you think i should get ?

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8 minutes ago, IronaSona said:

And what RAM you think i should get ?

No, just physically remove them from slots and swap the sticks so they'd be in other slot

Edited: But nevermind,  you're going to upgrade.

 

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Just now, Tan3l6 said:

No, just physically remove them from slots and swap the sticks so they'd be in other slots.

 

ok thank you ill try that.

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Try installing new GPU drivers from NVIDIA web site, installer latest chipset drivers from AMD website, and i guess that about it. As previously said, you should see an improvement in games not a reduction.

 

You are seeing the limits of your whole system, a Ryzen 2600 and a cheap B450 motherboard with 3200mhz ram is a good and budget friendly option.

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31 minutes ago, IronaSona said:

i could approximately spend around 400-500 USA dollars

You didn't list your country so I can't give exact prices or if these components are available where you live, but this would be a decent upgrade.

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Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor $118.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $89.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $67.98 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $275.97
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-16 13:03 EDT-0400  

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3 minutes ago, IronaSona said:

If i upgrade my core to i5 7400, motherboard to Gigabyte B450M GAMING Motherboard, Socket AM4,B450,DDR4,S-ATA 600,Micro ATX and upgrade my ram to 16GB ddr4 will that help ?

The i5 7400 is an Intel CPU and the B450 motherboard is an AMD board they will not work together. I wouldn't advise getting an older than 8th gen Intel CPU(as Intel's CPUs are way overpriced even after they're old or used) or even going Intel at all right now, Ryzen's price to performance is unbeatable. 

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