2080 vs 1080 ti

[Mando772004]

Hey guys so im really curious on which gpu is better a 2080 or a 1080 ti. considering that they both were released in totally different nvidia gpu "generation" as the 1080 ti is pascal and a 2080 is turing. I tried to avoid benchmarks becuase i wouldnt be sure if they are fake or not. Also depending on which card is better, how big is the margin between both cards?

[Streetguru]

25 minutes ago, InfernalClaw said:

 

They have basically the same performance

NAVI is a way better value now though

[SydneySideSteveSomewheres]

Hey there @InfernalClaw,

 

In answer to what I thought you meant to write:

The RTX 2080 Super card has new features such as real-time ray tracing, AI-powered anti-aliasing tasks and you will be able to plug in a 4K monitor and in comparison is a better video card than the GTX 1080 Ti.
 

In answer to what you did write:

You will have regrets about buying an RTX 2080 and not the RTX 2080 Super or even the cheaper RTX 2070 Super, and it falls short of the GTX 1080 Ti.
 

hope this helps

 

Links

Nvidia RTX 2080 Super vs GTX 1080-Ti

Nvidia RTX 2080 vs GTX 1080-Ti

[GoldenLag]

Performance is the same. Except the 1080ti is slightly better in older titles and APIs while the 2080 does take the edge in newer APIs. 

 

Tho honestly. Just take whichever is cheaper.

13 minutes ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

AI-powered anti-aliasing

DLSS is a joke........... Like literally one of the worst reasons to buy a Turing based card.

48 minutes ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

you will be able to plug in a 4K monitor

What GPU cant you plug a 4k monitor into?

 

Gt 710 can run a 4k monitor no problem.

[GoldenLag]

49 minutes ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

You will have regrets about buying an RTX 2080 and not the RTX 2080 Super

They are literally the same........

 

Well the super is about 3-8% faster. And currently costs a little extra.

[SydneySideSteveSomewheres]

11 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

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What GPU cant you plug a 4k monitor into?

 

Gt 710 can run a 4k monitor no problem.

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Correct to run a 4K monitor you need a BIOS screen and my GTX 960 will do that although my older AGP GeForce 7600 may struggle. However, the GTX 960 and GT 710 only have 2G of VRAM and would run into memory limitations when trying to play a game like Wolfenstein: Youngblood at only 720p with the lowest settings.

[JoostinOnline]

1 hour ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

Hey there @InfernalClaw,

 

In answer to what I thought you meant to write:

The RTX 2080 Super card has new features such as real-time ray tracing, AI-powered anti-aliasing tasks and you will be able to plug in a 4K monitor and in comparison is a better video card than the GTX 1080 Ti.
 

In answer to what you did write:

You will have regrets about buying an RTX 2080 and not the RTX 2080 Super or even the cheaper RTX 2070 Super, and it falls short of the GTX 1080 Ti.
 

hope this helps

 

Links

Nvidia RTX 2080 Super vs GTX 1080-Ti

Nvidia RTX 2080 vs GTX 1080-Ti

If you rely on garbage sites like Userbenchmark, you're not really qualified to give advice.

 

The 2080 Super is barely an improvement over the 2080 or the 1080 Ti. The regular 2080 is being discontinued anyway though, so there's no reason to get it.

 

@InfernalClaw Please watch this

https://youtu.be/Qeb3IhsZSCM

[SydneySideSteveSomewheres]

45 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

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DLSS is a joke........... Like literally one of the worst reasons to buy a Turing based card.

 

 

You may say DLSS is a joke now, but being that everything in the PC space moves forward, I am pretty sure that more new titles will use it. And looking at what a GPU does when providing frames to view in games, the most significant proportion of time goes into re-delivering the same frame, again and again, that is what super sampling learns to do. Therefore decreasing compute times and increasing frame rates.

Another example is what we used to be satisfied with. A Sony Trinitron CRT that output 60Hz and 60 fps used to be fine, but today's minimum is a 120Hz (120 fps) monitor, or for a pro gamer a 144Hz (144 fps) monitor, and now the most recently released monitor is 240Hz (240 fps).

With how the sales of higher and higher Hertz monitors are going, why buy a GPU for an older machine when they can be transplanted easily to the next generation one.

 

Link

60Hz/120hz/144hz/240hz Monitor for Gaming...

 

[SydneySideSteveSomewheres]

10 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

 

If you rely on garbage sites like Userbenchmark, you're not really qualified to give advice.

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That's an awfully high horse you are on there @JoostinOnline what makes you say that I was relying on the Userbenchmark site to prove something. Is it perhaps that you know what I was thinking when I posted my FREE advice to the OP's question in the community forum?

[Mando772004]

Thank you all for your time. So i think that they are so close in performance but like what @GoldenLag said, id rather pick the cheaper even if its the 1080 ti considering its a little bit older than the 2080 and the 2080 has i guess preferably up to date technology now dont take my word for it because im not a gpu geek but i guess in the end theyre both excellent cards and deliver excellent performance and i guess nobody would doubt that. BUT, I still think amd wins when it comes to price/performance ratio then again its just my opinion. Thank you! @SydneySideSteveSomewheres @JoostinOnline @Streetguru

[GoldenLag]

25 minutes ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

Is it perhaps that you know what I was thinking when I posted my FREE advice to the OP's question in the community forum?

And its just aswell within our rights to call out bull when we see it

1 hour ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

Correct to run a 4K monitor you need a BIOS screen

Um, what?

1 hour ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

However, the GTX 960 and GT 710 only have 2G of VRAM and would run into memory limitations when trying to play a game like Wolfenstein: Youngblood at only 720p with the lowest settings

In other words you wrongly informed you needed a super to connect the monitor.......

When its actually about performance where the cards are very similar.....

39 minutes ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

You may say DLSS is a joke now, but being that everything in the PC space moves forward, I am pretty sure that more new titles will use it

They do use it. Its worse than downscaling and regular sharpening methods or downscaling and anti-aliasing.

 

So in other words. Its a joke.

39 minutes ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

And looking at what a GPU does when providing frames to view in games, the most significant proportion of time goes into re-delivering the same frame, again and again, that is what super sampling learns to do. Therefore decreasing compute times and increasing frame rates

Thats not what DLSS does...... Its anti-aliasing......

 

So that there is false advertisement of what turing does. 

39 minutes ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

why buy a GPU for an older machine when they can be transplanted easily to the next generation one

Cuz the performance is the same and its cheaper. The only reason to get a 1080ti atm is if its cheaper. 

39 minutes ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

today's minimum is a 120Hz (120 fps) monitor, or for a pro gamer a 144Hz (144 fps) monitor, and now the most recently released monitor is 240Hz (240 fps).

Um.., no? A huge portion of gamers run 60hz monitors or TVs......... While yes 144hz atm is so cheap you light aswell get it. One can by todays standards play just as well on 60hz monitors.

 

[GoldenLag]

14 minutes ago, InfernalClaw said:

Thank you all for your time. So i think that they are so close in performance but like what @GoldenLag said, id rather pick the cheaper even if its the 1080 ti considering its a little bit older than the 2080 and the 2080 has i guess preferably up to date technology now dont take my word for it because im not a gpu geek but i guess in the end theyre both excellent cards and deliver excellent performance and i guess nobody would doubt that. BUT, I still think amd wins when it comes to price/performance ratio then again its just my opinion. Thank you! @SydneySideSteveSomewheres @JoostinOnline @Streetguru

Take a look at the 2070 super. It might be a tad cheaper than the 1080ti while offering slightly less performance. Nvidias lineup is super crowded atm

 

Amd wins in price to performance. And if you want that then i suggest waiting for partner cards of the 5700xt in the comming weeks. Its tad slower than the 2070 super while being cheaper.

[Zeitec]

5 hours ago, InfernalClaw said:

Hey guys so im really curious on which gpu is better a 2080 or a 1080 ti. considering that they both were released in totally different nvidia gpu "generation" as the 1080 ti is pascal and a 2080 is turing. I tried to avoid benchmarks becuase i wouldnt be sure if they are fake or not. Also depending on which card is better, how big is the margin between both cards?

2080 is about 5% faster, has a bit less VRAM, has support for RTX and is a bit newer so it'll probably age better. That said I'd probably take a 5700xt over either at this point. 2080 is like 60% more expensive and is like... maybe 10% faster. Not worth it imo unless you really like to play games with RTX.

[xg32]

the 2080 is considerably faster than the 1080 ti in modern games  (5-10% and increasing with driver updates), just grab a 2080 or wait for a 5700x with better coolers to save some money. The choice really should be between a 2080 and a 5700 xt, unless the 1080 ti is REALLY cheap here.

[Princess Luna]

14 minutes ago, xg32 said:

the 2080 is considerably faster than the 1080 ti in modern games  (5-10%),

Lol it's not, Hardware Unboxed 35 games (modern) benchmark showed the 2080 Super to be merely 8% faster on average, the trend we've seen all along with the 2080 vs 1080 Ti is that they perform neck on neck for the most part.

 

People can't randomly throw these "10%" out in the open any more, all these video cards, 2070 Super, 5700XT, 1080 Ti, 2080, 2080 super they are all within 10% of one another at most, there really isn't that much of a gap these days, if you're okay with adjusting in game settings you can pick whatever cheapest of the bunch.

 

OP, the 1080 Ti only makes sense if you can find a really good deal on a second hand one since "brand new 1080 Ti's" is not a thing any more, so if you have preference for brand new it makes no sense even thinking in one now since the 2080 Super has the same MSRP and offers a little bit of extra performance with DXR thrown as a bonus nobody asked for

[JoostinOnline]

9 hours ago, InfernalClaw said:

Thank you all for your time. So i think that they are so close in performance but like what @GoldenLag said, id rather pick the cheaper even if its the 1080 ti considering its a little bit older than the 2080 and the 2080 has i guess preferably up to date technology now dont take my word for it because im not a gpu geek but i guess in the end theyre both excellent cards and deliver excellent performance and i guess nobody would doubt that. BUT, I still think amd wins when it comes to price/performance ratio then again its just my opinion. Thank you! @SydneySideSteveSomewheres @JoostinOnline @Streetguru

Basically the 2080 and 2080 Super are just a more expensive 1080 Ti with a couple barely functional gimmicks tacked on. Unfortunately, people realized this months ago and it lead to inflated 1080 Ti prices so there's not really a savings there.

 

If you want a better value and very similar performance, either get an RTX 2070 Super or an RX 5700 XT. The 5700 XT is a better value, but I'd wait till you can purchase models with a better cooler from board partners like EVGA and MSI. The blower style cooler on the reference model of the XT isn't great.

 

TL;DR: if you can wait, save yourself some money and buy an RX 5700 XT with an open air cooler when they come out. If you can't wait, buy an RTX 2070 Super. You'll still save a lot of money over the overpriced 2080 and 2080 Super.

[JoostinOnline]

14 hours ago, SydneySideSteveSomewheres said:

That's an awfully high horse you are on there @JoostinOnline what makes you say that I was relying on the Userbenchmark site to prove something.

You linking to Userbenchmark twice as "proof" had something to do with it.

[xAcid9]

23 hours ago, InfernalClaw said:

Hey guys so im really curious on which gpu is better a 2080 or a 1080 ti.

Without the price for each card i can't really tell you which is better.

 

Also if you could include pricing for 2070 Super, 2080 Super and 5700XT that will be great.