i7 9700k or ryzen 3700x?

[Mateus Montemor]

Hi, I finnaly saved enough money so i can upgrade the rest of my system (keeping the 1070), my doubt now is: i go for the z390( a nice model from any brand)+i7 9700k+16 GB 2666MHz memory combo or the x570 (MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS) + 3700x + 16 GB 3200MHz memory (PSU, cpu cooler and storages will be the same for both), both are really close in price here in brasil (would say the ryzen combo is 30 dollars cheaper). I main game and aiming for competitive games like CSGO over 240fps, sometimes i do some 3d modelling in inventor and SolidWorks too.

[MrTiC]

Cheaper + better for productivity ... 100% ryzen

[Mateus Montemor]

2 minutes ago, MrTiC said:

Cheaper + better for productivity ... 100% ryzen

Yeah, my only "concern" is that i want to go for x570 (be ready for PCI-E 4.0 and stuff), but the more affordable ones here are from MSI, like the model i said, and i never really worked with their mobos+BIOS, are they good?

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, FazBEBETO said:

Yeah, my only "concern" is that i want to go for x570 (be ready for PCI-E 4.0 and stuff), but the more affordable ones here are from MSI, like the model i said, and i never really worked with their mobos+BIOS, are they good?

You don't need PCIE 4.0, and if you do NEED it, you can afford it because you make money off your 4K and 8K editing.

 

Get a nice B450 Tomahawk or Pro Carbon and your 3700X..

[Fasauceome]

9 minutes ago, FazBEBETO said:

Yeah, my only "concern" is that i want to go for x570 (be ready for PCI-E 4.0 and stuff), but the more affordable ones here are from MSI, like the model i said, and i never really worked with their mobos+BIOS, are they good?

MSI makes a decent BIOS these days. I didn't care for their old layout but modern MSI boards are much easier to handle

[Princess Luna]

Ryzen 7 3700X all the way, you can save up some money picking the older boards since performance is the same:

 

https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1262253319-placa-me-asrock-b450m-steel-legend-am4-usb-31-type-c-d-_JM?quantity=1&variation=39482887769

[Mateus Montemor]

4 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Ryzen 7 3700X all the way, you can save up some money picking the older boards since performance is the same:

 

https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1262253319-placa-me-asrock-b450m-steel-legend-am4-usb-31-type-c-d-_JM?quantity=1&variation=39482887769

 

8 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

MSI makes a decent BIOS these days. I didn't care for their old layout but modern MSI boards are much easier to handle

 

12 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

You don't need PCIE 4.0, and if you do NEED it, you can afford it because you make money off your 4K and 8K editing.

 

Get a nice B450 Tomahawk or Pro Carbon and your 3700X..

So u guys think its better for me to go with an amazing b450 model that is way cheaper than a entry x570 and maybe realocate the money elsewhere? Like a NVME ssd or something?

[Mathieu9836]

Get the best B450/X470 board you can afford, other then PCIe 4.0 and wayyyyyy overkill vrms that even a 32 cores can't make suffer you don't really need X570 if you don't need ultra fast storage transfert, even tho you NVMe will probably over heat then die.....

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

take a look at this list and pick the best one you can get with the best VRM and features. Don't forget if you don't have a 1st or 2nd gen Ryzen on hand YOU WILL NEED a board with bios flashback feature, Or you can ask a friend or a shop to do it for you on a bench then go home and install your 3700X on it.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, FazBEBETO said:

So u guys think its better for me to go with an amazing b450 model that is way cheaper than a entry x570 and maybe realocate the money elsewhere? Like a NVME ssd or something?

Yes, the stock cooler is sufficient by every mean and good B450's won't hold back the 3700X full performance you can save up quite a bit to focus on other hardware.

 

16GB of memory rated for 3200mhz is also sufficient (make sure 2x8GB dual channel), then you can shift your money on something like high capacity SSD for storage:

https://www.kabum.com.br/produto/100017/ssd-adata-su630-960gb-sata-leitura-520mb-s-gravacao-450mb-s-asu630ss-960gq-r

 

Don't bother with NVMe though since that's 100% placebo unless you have very few specific applications that can use it but normal usage and gaming is not one of these cases.

 

But how you want to invest the spare money is on your, just know you have such alternative to save up without compromising performance.

[Mathieu9836]

5 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Don't bother with NVMe though since that's 100% placebo unless you have very few specific applications that can use it but normal usage and gaming is not one of these cases.

 

But how you want to invest the spare money is on your, just know you have such alternative to save up without compromising performance. 

Totally agree with that, most people don't need ultra fast storage for gaming, and get 1TB NVMe when they get a 250GB one and use StoreMI or Primocache to accelerate a cheaper HDD. There is Cons to do this but your NMVe and HDD may die anyway...

[Mateus Montemor]

26 minutes ago, Mathieu9836 said:

Get the best B450/X470 board you can afford, other then PCIe 4.0 and wayyyyyy overkill vrms that even a 32 cores can't make suffer you don't really need X570 if you don't need ultra fast storage transfert, even tho you NVMe will probably over heat then die.....

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

take a look at this list and pick the best one you can get with the best VRM and features. Don't forget if you don't have a 1st or 2nd gen Ryzen on hand YOU WILL NEED a board with bios flashback feature, Or you can ask a friend or a shop to do it for you on a bench then go home and install your 3700X on it.

 

26 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Yes, the stock cooler is sufficient by every mean and good B450's won't hold back the 3700X full performance you can save up quite a bit to focus on other hardware.

 

16GB of memory rated for 3200mhz is also sufficient (make sure 2x8GB dual channel), then you can shift your money on something like high capacity SSD for storage:

https://www.kabum.com.br/produto/100017/ssd-adata-su630-960gb-sata-leitura-520mb-s-gravacao-450mb-s-asu630ss-960gq-r

 

Don't bother with NVMe though since that's 100% placebo unless you have very few specific applications that can use it but normal usage and gaming is not one of these cases.

 

But how you want to invest the spare money is on your, just know you have such alternative to save up without compromising performance.

Thanks, think i will go for a nice b450 (will pay attention to the BIOS thing) + 3700x and problably buy a larger SSD, thanks for the help guys