CapTherm about to start selling revolutionary multiphase CPU cooler

[mgsstar]

 

Just over two years ago, I was sitting with CapTherm at a dinner as we vaguely discussed a cooler they had been working on, and from the energy and enthusiasm in which they went into detail about this product with, we knew there was something big on the horizon. CapTherm has been in the business of offering many ideas and devices to bring cooling levels down in datacenter, PC, LED, and even cool things for military applications.

 

As it turns out, they were talking about the MP-1120 multiphase cooling system. This is not a water cooler or some take on a very compact AIO; this is a whole different breed of cooler. First, they needed to devise a better metallurgical structure of the materials used, because we all know that copper and aluminum have been used in every manner and have hit sort of a stall point in efficiency.

 

This is where they turn to explosion welding where layers of metal, no matter their difference, are set under a layer of high explosives, and detonated to weld these normally incompatible materials together, like titanium welded to copper that is then welded to stainless steel. Steps are also taken afterward to make these materials not only decent to look at, but they also have a slick addition by using a sight glass.

 

With the basis of this design using a non-conductive liquid in the base, allowing the heat to essentially boil that liquid and use the vapor to take the heat out of the base via a thin radiator that we are told is able to run passively in many instances, but still has the ability to add a fan for much better thermal transfer. But to offer this view, the sight glass has to be plasma fusion welded to the metals to keep the cooler running as it should. To add a bit of flash to what is an already very flashy product, there is also a RGB LED installed to brighten the view of the reaction inside.

 

We are just scratching the surface of what this built-in the USA MP-1120 is capable of, as I read somewhere that they say this cooler offers ten times better performance than some other solutions out there on the market, and that is a huge deal to someone who is seeing the stall in CPU cooling. This sort of technology does not come cheap, and to exaggerate that point, the MP-1120 has a $249 MSRP. Considering the cost of much larger and more annoying phase change solutions, the pricing is a bit expected, and with no moving parts until you add the fan, there isn't the annoying hum associated with this in any way.

 

Rumor has it that samples will be ready soon, and we are also told that we are at the top of the list as to where those samples will go. So, keep your eye out in our reviews section for when we have the opportunity to put this completely new way of attacking CPU heat to the test.

Source:http://www.tweaktown.com/news/35079/captherm-about-to-start-selling-revolutionary-multiphase-cpu-cooler/index.html

 

Personally I think this cooler looks pretty cool. But with a $249 price point, its pretty expensive and pretty excited to see how will be perform even though it uses a thin radiator.

[Emkryan]

Looks cool. But I think that $250 will negate any point of buying this cooler 

[OmanGS]

A lot of the people that will buy this are going to be the same people that SLI 780Ti's - people with disposable income.

 

They're saying that multiphase cooling is 500x more efficient than liquid cooling, so I'd definitely like to see some test numbers...

[qwertywarrior]

250$

if it cooled as good as a 240 rad then there might be a market for it

[Mcdoorknob]

It would look a lot cooler(heh) if it didn't have the radiator sticking up. The picture that shows it on a motherboard looks amazing. I'm not so sure it has a marker among people like us. Most of us who water cool don't do it mainly for the temperatures (at least on cpu's). We do it just because its special and something to be proud of and looks awesome. 

[That Norwegian Guy]

Shit, why does it have to be blue. If I get one of those, those LEDs will come right out. Allergic to anything blue in computers.

[onionring]

sorry to break this to you but that s bull'.

no matter what you do from the cpu to the radiator,

you re still limited to the radiator's surface area and airflow over the fins.

(because this is how heat transfer is calculated, you can t transfer faster than the slowest part of the system. in this case the fins)

 

this will cool as well as a 25$ cm hyper 212 or less seeing as how the fin stack seams thinner.

[Khraft]

Shit, why does it have to be blue. If I get one of those, those LEDs will come right out. Allergic to anything blue in computers.

 

It's an RGB LED so you can change the colour on it and I'm sure you can turn it off as well.

 

What I don't get is why they didn't make it low-profile.

[HK_Rage]

I'm interested to see the temperatures, although $250 is a bit high, could be worth the price if it keeps parts in the 20-30C range while under load.

[Kamil]

All of that sounds cool and all, but isn't "water boils into steam, which condenses when it releases its heat into the fin array" exactly the same as the way any other air cooler works? I can wait and see the numbers, but I don't really see what the difference is.

[Mr. Chairman]

They used "plasma fusion" and "high explosives" in description of making a CPU cooler.

Combine this information with the comment above, and call it whatever you want.

I call it bullshit.

 

Expensive Bullshit.

[flibberdipper]

Although it looks cool, I gotta call bullshit. There is no way that thing will cool an AMD FX 9590, OC'd or not, fanless. The article did say that it would run fanless, FYI.

[TheNinjaNextDor]

I want to believe in this. And if t is really good id also like to see a gpu cooling version.

[carolkarine]

Although it looks cool, I gotta call bullshit. There is no way that thing will cool an AMD FX 9590, OC'd or not, fanless. The article did say that it would run fanless, FYI.

 

when people brag about phase change cooling, there is reason to do so. using evaporation and condensation to literally pull the heat out of the processor is much much MUCH more efficient than any passive transfer of energy done in convention systems. I can see this working extremely well, so long as there isn't a problem getting the heat out of the radiator.

 

If this is ever released, I will buy one, plain and simple.

[bob345]

phase change cooling is very effective everywhere it is used. im interested in seeing how it will perform. looks ugly imo though.

[onionring]

phase change cooling is very effective everywhere it is used. im interested in seeing how it will perform. looks ugly imo though.

sorry but this isn t the usefull kind of phase change cooling.

this use phase change between the cpu and a tiny fin stack.

no matter how efficient the transfer from the cpu to the fins is the heat cant be transferred faster than the fins can.

seeing how small those are i don t see this cooler be usefull for anythi g other than looks but even there it isn t great

[IPCharger]

We really shouldn't critize it until we get some actual temps from reviewers.

[nicehat]

the Zalman Reserator 3 max and this cooler are impressive to look at in a case, but thats about it. Dont get your hopes up. 

[Rassilon]

They used "plasma fusion" and "high explosives" in description of making a CPU cooler.

Combine this information with the comment above, and call it whatever you want.

I call it bullshit.

Expensive Bullshit.

Use high explosives to fuse two incompatible metals together. Sounds plausible.

[Eroda]

i would like to see this in action if its real, even if im not interested in buying it just the fact that it exists makes me happy

[Frollard]

sorry but this isn t the usefull kind of phase change cooling.

this use phase change between the cpu and a tiny fin stack.

no matter how efficient the transfer from the cpu to the fins is the heat cant be transferred faster than the fins can.

seeing how small those are i don t see this cooler be usefull for anythi g other than looks but even there it isn t great

The only benefit I see is if you can get those tiny fins up to a ridiculously high temperature through efficient transfer of heat from the die, then it stands to transfer more heat to the air; heat transfer is reliant on the delta between the fin and the air, and higher delta caused by higher heat transfer to the fin, should result in hotter air coming off the rad.  Agreed it must be something magic if they expect it to be 10x better than existing phase change (read: heat pipes).

[onionring]

The only benefit I see is if you can get those tiny fins up to a ridiculously high temperature through efficient transfer of heat from the die, then it stands to transfer more heat to the air; heat transfer is reliant on the delta between the fin and the air, and higher delta caused by higher heat transfer to the fin, should result in hotter air coming off the rad. Agreed it must be something magic if they expect it to be 10x better than existing phase change (read: heat pipes).

well they re using exactly the same principle silverstone was showing at ces (a AIO with no pump) but SIlverstone never said it performed any good (and they had a 2x120mm rad), just that it looked good . and they got way more r n d money to spend than these guys.

[Scheer]

sorry to break this to you but that s bull'.

no matter what you do from the cpu to the radiator,

you re still limited to the radiator's surface area and airflow over the fins.

(because this is how heat transfer is calculated, you can t transfer faster than the slowest part of the system. in this case the fins)

 

this will cool as well as a 25$ cm hyper 212 or less seeing as how the fin stack seams thinner.

 

I personally think all the obsession with MOAR rad space is somewhat pointless. I think that the biggest issue is simply not enough heat is being moved from the CPU to the rad, as I've never felt heat coming off of my radiator, even when the block/pump is warm (mind you it is a H100i, so nothing crazy).

 

The way I look at it is I'm positive that a car engine produces a LOT more heat relative to its radiator size compared to a computer, yet it always sits in that 100C range.

 

Its just an opinion, I do not have a degree in anything that relates to this stuff, so assume I have no idea what I'm actually talking about.

[AndyJetty]

Cool idea, I would like to see some temps.

[techie]

I'm going to withhold my judgement until I see a review. Do you guys seriously think that you can work out that it won't be any good simply by looking at a picture of it, and reading a pr?