My father is buying a 9900k based system.

[SenKa]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

intel is better?

 

i want you to show him 3 things

 

meltdown

spectre

zombieload

From my understanding, all 3 require very low level hardware/software access that you are probably screwed anyways

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, Oalei said:

like if i can just drop it to 9700k and get a 2060 its more better than i9 9900k, IMO

An i7 8700K or the i7 9700K would by all means be sufficiently of an upgrade from an i7 2600K either ways, it's more about how far one's comfortable affording, we all know the 9900K is indeed salty price wise but you still somewhat get what you pay for.

 

5 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

hould we put the 1060 in the new rig and buy a really cheap video card to replace it on his old rig ?

The GTX 1060 is already a sufficient card for hardware acceleration, Turing based card however could be better for NVENC encoding though to the point I'd consider the GTX1660~1660 Ti ~ RTX 2060 if pricing allows, the benefits for Premiere Pro are noticeable, it's a matter of how much you're comfortable spending.

 

14 minutes ago, Oalei said:

maybe some AIO with 280/360Rads for daily use

Not really for a daily use machine with plenty of content creation in mind you actually want to avoid these, a DRP4 will be more silent than most 280/360 AiO's out there while being far more reliable as it has less breakable parts and is less susceptible to failures. All that while being able to keep the i9 9900K at 5ghz if needed.

[Oalei]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

Thanks for your input my friend, I will consider it.  I just want my old man to be happy and no regrets and this will be his final build of his life as he is 76 years old.  This rig will have to last 10 years.

well i always the kinda person who wants the best performance out of consideration.

Dang 76 did he join the 9years old army yet?

[SenKa]

1 minute ago, ch3w2oy said:

This isn't true at all man. Please remove your head from your anus. I told you in another thread 8 cores on Zen 2 makes less sense than more cores. Go back and read Stefan Paynes reply as well.. 

 

 

You're just being naive at this point.. 

I also explained to him that Zen 2 is supposed to cap at 16c, hence the death of threadripper 

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Princess Luna said:

a DRP4

he'd have to lose the case tho... it can't fit in

 

focus g could tho

[Oalei]

2 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Not really for a daily use machine with plenty of content creation in mind you actually want to avoid these, a DRP4 will be more silent than most 280/360 AiO's out there while being far more reliable as it has less breakable parts and is less susceptible to failures. All that while being able to keep the i9 9900K at 5ghz if needed.

The case cannot fit a DRP4 i want to suggest NH-D15 but looking at the case nvm.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Oalei said:

The case cannot fit a DRP4 i want to suggest NH-D15 but looking at the case nvm.

focus g... 3 bucks more

[Turtle Rig]

5 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

intel is better?

 

i want you to show him 3 things

 

meltdown

spectre

zombieload

No no Luke I didn't say Intel is better.  Just my dad is picky and he told me no AMD , I explained to him how its better bang for the buck, but he doesn't want to hear it, so I told him fine well get you a 9900k or 9700k as the  above chap recommended.  Also I think we can pull out his 1060 6GB and put it on the new Rig.  What is the cheapest video card you can buy for his 2600k Sandy which will be a dummy machine, just there to see what apps he needs to install.  He has over 130 things installed in cpanel.  He does lots of work so he deserves it.  Plus his current Sandy 2600k with SSD is soo slow.  It takes couple seconds for my computer to come up.  His system is tangled really bad, going from WIn 7 to Win 10 and all the junk he has installed, which he does use lol.

[Turtle Rig]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

focus g... 3 bucks more

Oh sh*T no kidding Luke.  So what cooler you recommend if I can please ask ?

[Oalei]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

focus g... 3 bucks more

idk what that is so i have to looked at it first seems like a good choice for me and his dad, is it close enough in estetics?

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

What is the cheapest video card you can buy for his 2600k Sandy which will be a dummy machine, just there to see what apps he needs to install.

why not use intel hd graphics?

[Oalei]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

Oh sh*T no kidding Luke.  So what cooler you recommend if I can please ask ?

DRP4 of course

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

Oh sh*T no kidding Luke.  So what cooler you recommend if I can please ask ?

drp4 and nhd15 as always

 

Just now, Oalei said:

idk what that is so i have to looked at it first seems like a good choice for me and his dad, is it close enough in estetics?

different, but it has decent airflow, and some fans included

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

he'd have to lose the case tho... it can't fit in

1 minute ago, Oalei said:

The case cannot fit a DRP4 i want to suggest NH-D15 but looking at the case nvm.

Getting a different case is fairly straight forwards and simple, even if that was not en option you can actually cool the i9 9900K for something like 4.8ghz with completely acceptable noise level off a NH-U12A, this is really a non-issue on the great scheme of things, in fact I feel our Forum has a tendency of only remembering the NH-D15/DRP4 even when those are unneeded.

 

[Turtle Rig]

8 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

This isn't true at all man. Please remove your head from your anus. I told you in another thread 8 cores on Zen 2 makes less sense than more cores. Go back and read Stefan Paynes reply as well.. 

 

 

You're just being naive at this point.. 

Why are you attacking me.  Thank you for your help first of all.  You did not have to cuss me out, its early morning my head isn't working and I did read all your posts.  Don't get soo angry just because you know more then the other person.  Very sad you put me down on this great LTT forum.

[Oalei]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

different, but it has decent airflow, and some fans included

that case looks like a fricking brick tbh no airflow for real.

[Inversion]

16 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Wow you rock Princess Luna.  Thank you for your expertise.  Ok Im gonna switch to a nVidia card.  Also he already has a 1060 6GB.  But we don't want to take it out as we want access to both old computer and new build at same time so he knows what to install and what not.  Should we put the 1060 in the new rig and buy a really cheap video card to replace it on his old rig ?

Unless I'm mistaken the 2600K has an iGPU so could you not use that for viewing the programs he needs to install since that won't be GPU intensive?

[Oalei]

Just now, Princess Luna said:

Getting a different case is fairly straight forwards and simple, even if that was not en option you can actually cool the i9 9900K for something like 4.8ghz with completely acceptable noise level off a NH-U12A, this is really a non-issue on the great scheme of things, in fact I feel our Forum has a tendency of only remembering the NH-D15/DRP4 even when those are unneeded.

 

well its already solved with Focus G m8, oh yeah u12 is almost at the level of DRP4 slightly below.

[Turtle Rig]

Just now, Inversion said:

Unless I'm mistaken the 2600K has an iGPU so could you not use that for viewing the programs he needs to install since that won't be GPU intensive?

Oh sh*T I never thought of that.  Yes it has iGPU.  Wow well use that and just pop out the 1060 and put it in new rig.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Oalei said:

that case looks like a fricking brick tbh no airflow for real.

front is mesh...

 

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

Getting a different case is fairly straight forwards and simple, even if that was not en option you can actually cool the i9 9900K for something like 4.8ghz with completely acceptable noise level off a NH-U12A, this is really a non-issue on the great scheme of things, in fact I feel our Forum has a tendency of only remembering the NH-D15/DRP4 even when those are unneeded.

i mean... it's also an option, you have something outside noctua and be quiet, but i'm not too familiar with them

 

it's really something straightforward here, really

[Oalei]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

front is mesh...

 

im talking about P300 forgot to mention that, im kinda in the middle of multitasking between reading a book and reading articles so my head kinda messed up ATM.

[ch3w2oy]

12 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

Why are you attacking me.  Thank you for your help first of all.  You did not have to cuss me out, its early morning my head isn't working and I did read all your posts.  Don't get soo angry just because you know more then the other person.  Very sad you put me down on this great LTT forum.

I'm not angry. Stop being so sensative. Stop saying Ryzen will only be 8 cores. TR4 is irrelevant. 

[Turtle Rig]

Just now, ch3w2oy said:

I'm not angry. Stop being so sensative. Stop saying Ryzen will only be 8 cores. TR4 is irrelevant. 

Im sorry if it came out that way.  Ryzen will start at 8 cores unless Im wrong, then go to 12c like you said.  I don't know.  You know much better then me.  But who cares why are we talking about Ryzen when my old man wants a Intel.. Hes 76 Im not gonna argue with him about his Intel preference.

[LukeSavenije]

12 minutes ago, Oalei said:

im talking about P300 forgot to mention that, im kinda in the middle of multitasking between reading a book and reading articles so my head kinda messed up ATM.

ah... yeah

 

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

Im sorry if it came out that way.  Ryzen will start at 8 cores unless Im wrong, then go to 12c like you said.  I don't know.  You know much better then me.  But who cares why are we talking about Ryzen when my old man wants a Intel.. Hes 76 Im not gonna argue with him about his Intel preference.

rumors

 

we currently have nothing more than a "maybe"

[Oalei]

3 minutes ago, ch3w2oy said:

I'm not angry. Stop being so sensative. Stop saying Ryzen will only be 8 cores. TR4 is irrelevant. 

 

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

Im sorry if it came out that way.  Ryzen will start at 8 cores unless Im wrong, then go to 12c like you said.  I don't know.  You know much better then me.  But who cares why are we talking about Ryzen when my old man wants a Intel.. Hes 76 Im not gonna argue with him about his Intel preference.

can you both wait for computex? everything will be clear there idc about rumors its only for the hype just wait for computex pls.