Sata 2 vs Sata 3?

[wantcpuhelp]

I have a MSI b450m mortar titanium and I would like to get another ssd, but I only have a 90 degree sata cable left so I cant connect it to sata 2 but I can connect it to sata 3, would I see any decrease in performance if I use sata 3 instead of 2? Would it be worth it to get another sata cable to connect to sata 2? Or is there no performance difference/not enough to be worth it?

 

[Helly]

well this is confusing. I thought you meant sata300 vs sata600. Anyway, those are just port numbers. They each have the same speed/performance. So no it doesn't matter.

[Princess Luna]

Yeah I was like what motherboard has both SATA 2 and SATA 3 revisions? what nonsense is this!

 

Only to find out he's asking about 'port number 2, port number 3' which is quite hilarious.

 

Any ways no it makes absolutely no difference what SATA port you use on your motherboard they all function the exact same way.

[LukeSavenije]

6 minutes ago, Helly said:

 

 

2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

 

fyi even if the cable would be actual sata300, he would still be able to hit almost sata3 speeds on it

 

I'm not sure what he means, that's why

Edited January 28, 2019 by LukeSavenije

[NelizMastr]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Yeah I was like what motherboard has both SATA 2 and SATA 3 revisions? what nonsense is this!

It was soooo common back in 2009-2013 to have both. Usually even crappy NEC/Renesas controllers. Ugh, pain.

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, NelizMastr said:

It was soooo common back in 2009-2013 to have both. Usually even crappy NEC/Renesas controllers. Ugh, pain.

Really? I went from Core2Duo straight to Skylake i7 6700, so I have a gap on how stuff worked from those 2010's to 2014's hehehe

 

Nice to know though ^^

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, NelizMastr said:

It was soooo common back in 2009-2013 to have both. Usually even crappy NEC/Renesas controllers. Ugh, pain.

yeah... but probably not on this board...

 

that's kinda new to me tho, good to know

[Helly]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

 

fyi even if the cable would be actual sata300, he would still be able to hit almost sata3 speeds on it

 

I'm not sure what he means, that's why

FYI, the cables don't matter, they haven't changed since the first sata revision. I have used cables from the sata150 era in sata600 and got ~500MB/s speeds.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Helly said:

FYI, the cables don't matter, they haven't changed since the first sata revision. I have used cables from the sata150 era in sata600 and got ~500MB/s speeds.

exactly what I mean

[NelizMastr]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

yeah... but probably not on this board...

 

that's kinda new to me tho, good to know

 

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Really? I went from Core2Duo straight to Skylake i7 6700, so I have a gap on how stuff worked from those 2010's to 2014's hehehe

 

Nice to know though ^^

Both SATA3 and USB3 were often stapled onto older platforms with add-on controllers. AMD was pretty early with native SATA3 but USB3 never worked reliably until Faildozer. Intel didn't have full SATA3 until Haswell-R/Broadwell.

[Pasi123]

13 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

 

Both SATA3 and USB3 were often stapled onto older platforms with add-on controllers. AMD was pretty early with native SATA3 but USB3 never worked reliably until Faildozer. Intel didn't have full SATA3 until Haswell-R/Broadwell.

Yeah, my Asus P6X58D-E has a Marvell 9128 controller for SATA3 and NEC controller for USB 3.0 and for example Asus Rampage III Extreme used the same controllers

[Daniel644]

OP, buddy, SATA_2 and SATA_3 are simply PORT NUMBERS, you have a total of 4 SATA3 ports, so you will also see a SATA_1 (the other one in the combo of 2 where SATA_2 is) and SATA_4 over above the SATA_3, they are ALL SATA3 ports, that number is nothing more then telling you which of the 4 ports you are plugging into, no modern motherboard still uses SATA2, there is no reason for it, 3 is compatible with 2 and even 1 hardware. you don't have ANY SATA 3 Gbps ports (Sata 2 standard), ALL are Sata 3.

 

your question is like asking will my Xbox perform worse if i plug it into the 3rd HDMI port on my TV instead of the 2nd HDMI port, there is no performance difference, the traces on the motherboard all run to the same place.

[ahuckphin]

if you mean sata revision, sata 2 is ok for hdd but not for ssd. sata 3 is ok for hdd and ssd.

 

If you mean sata ports on your motherboard then it depends on the make and model of your model. 

[Daniel644]

1 minute ago, bindydad123 said:

if you mean sata revision, sata 2 is ok for hdd but not for ssd. sata 3 is ok for hdd and ssd.

 

If you mean sata ports on your motherboard then it depends on the make and model of your model. 

it's a B450 board (he states the model at the beginning of the post, google it, they are ALL Sata 6Gbps ports, all 4 of them.

[WereCatf]

37 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

It was soooo common back in 2009-2013 to have both. Usually even crappy NEC/Renesas controllers. Ugh, pain.

I had just such a mobo myself It was not a very good mobo in any respect and the stupidity with the SATA-ports certainly didn't make it any better.