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Ryzen 5 2600 vs i7 8700. Help

I've seen the Cinebench scores. Very similar scores. Ryzen is cheaper. I don't care about gaming, just pure content creation, especially video editing. 

 

I'm coming from an i7 3770 currently clocked at 4.1GHz, looked at cinebench scores and the Ryzen 5 2400G blows it out. Planning to go for an R5 2600 build since it competes with an i7 8700 (According to Cinebench)

 

Separate question. Is Cinebench an accurate way of telling a processors power? Would a higher score mean it would be better in video editing?

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look for benchmarks for the programms you actiually use, Cinnebench is good at giving a comparible number in raw performance(up to a point) but nothing more. How the hardware is actiually handled in the programs you will be using is something entirely diffrent. The Adobe suite wants single core performance rather than cores even though both benefit it, so the Ryzen chips fall behind there for example

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34 minutes ago, MultiMigo said:

I've seen the Cinebench scores. Very similar scores. Ryzen is cheaper. I don't care about gaming, just pure content creation, especially video editing. 

 

I'm coming from an i7 3770 currently clocked at 4.1GHz, looked at cinebench scores and the Ryzen 5 2400G blows it out. Planning to go for an R5 2600 build since it competes with an i7 8700 (According to Cinebench)

 

Separate question. Is Cinebench an accurate way of telling a processors power? Would a higher score mean it would be better in video editing?

What programs? Cinebench has its uses. It gives you a general idea when it comes to a slate of Render & Compute tasks. It, however, doesn't address edge-case stuff. Which is why what programs you're using is going to matter the most.

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19 minutes ago, MultiMigo said:

I've seen the Cinebench scores. Very similar scores. Ryzen is cheaper. I don't care about gaming, just pure content creation, especially video editing. 

 

I'm coming from an i7 3770 currently clocked at 4.1GHz, looked at cinebench scores and the Ryzen 5 2400G blows it out. Planning to go for an R5 2600 build since it competes with an i7 8700 (According to Cinebench)

 

Separate question. Is Cinebench an accurate way of telling a processors power? Would a higher score mean it would be better in video editing?

As was stated look for specific use cases (benchmarks of programs you use). As you might find some software to not take advantage of any particular CPU.

The i7 8700 is a 6 core 12 thread CPU with a base clock of 3.2ghz and bopsted to 4.1ghz. This would explain a better cinebench score for the Ryzen 5 2600 simply due to a slightly higher base clock to boost ratio. Cinebench makes my i7 6700K look amazing when OC'd to 4.4 from its base but in reality you won't likely see much difference.

 

But cost to me is the biggest factor the Ryzen 5 is basically 50% less (give or take).

The Intel CPU is technically overall faster will slightly smaller CPU cache and will not come with a cooler but it does have a integrated GPU unlike the Ryzen 5 which if you care will mean you will need to buy a graphics card also if you go for Ryzen if you don't have one already. 

Motherboards will cost about the same, however one thing to note is that the AM4 platform is going to support Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) so ypur upgrade path is potentially really good and overall less expensive if you want to upgrade to a better processor later on like say a Ryzen 7 3700x which may be a very powerful processor coming end of 2019 at the latest.

 

So overall the Ryzen makes more sense ultimately. The 50% savings (or more) will make up for the cost of a decent GPU say a $150-200 USD coupd get you a GTX 1050ti, RX 580 and even a GTX1060 if you loom for it. But if you have a GPU then hey no need to worry save some money on the Ryzen 5 and use that to get better RAM or storage of whatever (just use stock settings, even a minor overclock is handled well by the stock cooler)

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2 hours ago, MultiMigo said:

I've seen the Cinebench scores. Very similar scores. Ryzen is cheaper. I don't care about gaming, just pure content creation, especially video editing. 

 

I'm coming from an i7 3770 currently clocked at 4.1GHz, looked at cinebench scores and the Ryzen 5 2400G blows it out. Planning to go for an R5 2600 build since it competes with an i7 8700 (According to Cinebench)

 

Separate question. Is Cinebench an accurate way of telling a processors power? Would a higher score mean it would be better in video editing?

if you are for content creation, then you wanna wait for zen 2, and if you need something now, then by default the 2600 is better cause you can upgrade to zen 2.

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3 hours ago, MultiMigo said:

I've seen the Cinebench scores. Very similar scores. Ryzen is cheaper. I don't care about gaming, just pure content creation, especially video editing. 

 

I'm coming from an i7 3770 currently clocked at 4.1GHz, looked at cinebench scores and the Ryzen 5 2400G blows it out. Planning to go for an R5 2600 build since it competes with an i7 8700 (According to Cinebench)

 

Separate question. Is Cinebench an accurate way of telling a processors power? Would a higher score mean it would be better in video editing?

If your into video editing and rendering then look at the ThreadRipper line my friend.  

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Get the i7 8700, better performance and lower temps (yes Intel at 65W TDP locked chips is cold), more stability and compatibility and above all use iGPU QuickSync for hardware acceleration where the i7 8700 will go as far as matching a Threadripper 1920X.

 

Here's a best case scenario i7 8700 Cinebench, with appropriated memory and mobo+psu right powering no limits applied and a Hyper 212X.

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If you need build for video editing then definitely go ryzen 5 as ryzen CPU beats intel in multicore performance. I will suggest you to go with ryzen 5 2600 or 2600x

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7 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

Get the i7 8700, (...) more stability and compatibility

Could we stop witht his Horse shit FUD?!

That was a lie 20 Years ago and it didn't change too much in the last 20 years...

14 hours ago, MultiMigo said:

I don't care about gaming, just pure content creation, especially video editing. 

Ryzen, absolutely.

You might want to look at the upcoming 3000 series because they bring 16 cores to the Desktop and are a good bit better than 2000 series.

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9 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Ryzen, absolutely.

The upcoming Ryzen 2 yes but not the current one, the actual editing, warp, preview, after effects and so on are single threaded depended and even the rendering as I said the iGPU on the 8700 hardware accelerating will make it more on pair with the 12c/24t TR 1920X.

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