Posted January 18, 2019 Hello LTT! Currently I'm in the process of my new build and was wanting to get some opinions. I am between the Vega 64 and MSI 2070 Aero. My case of choice is the Phanteks Evolv Shift which is why I am going with a blower card. I like the Vega 64 as it is currently on sale for $399.99 and my main monitor is a Freesync 34in Ultrawide, but the downside is it is more power hungry and tends to run slightly hotter. The 2070 is $499.99 and from benchmarks I have seen it tends to have the upper hand depending on the game. I was wondering if people who had real world experience with both cards or one of them to weigh in and help me come to a decision on this...it be greatly appreciated! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 Bypass power limit, watch the V64 catch up to a 2080. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 1 minute ago, KarathKasun said: Bypass power limit, watch the V64 catch up to a 2080. uh, good luck cooling that with a air cooler. GN required a 280mm rad. OP: get a 2070, for higher memory bandwidth, and performance in most games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, KarathKasun said: Bypass power limit, watch the V64 catch up to a 2080. I couldn't recommend people to realistically remove the power limit on a Vega 64, as mentioned it won't work on stock cooling, and it will need a good PSU to make sure it gets enough power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 19 minutes ago, Firewrath9 said: OP: get a 2070, for higher memory bandwidth, and performance in most games. The Vega 64 actually has more bandwidth than the 2070. ~40GBs of it because GDDR6 still can't compete with HBM2. In search of the future, new tech, and exploring the universe! All under the cover of anonymity! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 The performance between the two is pretty similar (within 5-10%) especially in more modern games. The Vega draws more power but the noise and thermals of the cards will be quite similar (ref this review: https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-turbo-geforce-rtx-2070-8gb-review,1.html) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 RTX 2060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, IconxDestiny said: Hello LTT! Currently I'm in the process of my new build and was wanting to get some opinions. I am between the Vega 64 and MSI 2070 Aero. My case of choice is the Phanteks Evolv Shift which is why I am going with a blower card. I like the Vega 64 as it is currently on sale for $399.99 and my main monitor is a Freesync 34in Ultrawide, but the downside is it is more power hungry and tends to run slightly hotter. The 2070 is $499.99 and from benchmarks I have seen it tends to have the upper hand depending on the game. I was wondering if people who had real world experience with both cards or one of them to weigh in and help me come to a decision on this...it be greatly appreciated! I'd say you should get a v56 with a good cooler and save some money, it performs the same as v64 at the same clocks, so just undervolt and overclock and you'll have a great card here. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131740&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker, LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID= 8086k Winner BABY!! Main rig CPU: R7 5800x3d (-25 all core CO 102 bclk) Board: Gigabyte B550 AD UC Cooler: Corsair H150i AIO Ram: 32gb HP V10 RGB 3200 C14 (3733 C14) tuned subs GPU: EVGA XC3 RTX 3080 (+120 core +950 mem 90% PL) Case: Thermaltake H570 TG Snow Edition PSU: Fractal ION Plus 760w Platinum SSD: 1tb Teamgroup MP34 2tb Mushkin Pilot-E Monitors: 32" Samsung Odyssey G7 (1440p 240hz), Some FHD Acer 24" VA GFs System CPU: E5 1660v3 (4.3ghz 1.2v) Mobo: Gigabyte x99 UD3P Cooler: Corsair H100i AIO Ram: 32gb Crucial Ballistix 3600 C16 (3000 C14) GPU: EVGA RTX 2060 Super Case: Phanteks P400A Mesh PSU: Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 650w SSD: Kingston NV1 2tb Monitors: 27" Viotek GFT27DB (1440p 144hz), Some 24" BENQ 1080p IPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, KarathKasun said: Bypass power limit, watch the V64 catch up to a 2080. No, bypass power limits, use 500W of power, throw on a liquid cooler (bringing the price up to 2080 levels), and be behind by around 15%. Main System: EVGA GTX 1080 SC, i7 8700, 16GB DDR4 Corsair LPX 3000mhz CL15, Asus Z370 Prime A, Noctua NH D15, EVGA GQ 650W, Fractal Design Define R5, 2TB Seagate Barracuda, 500gb Samsung 850 Evo Secondary System: EVGA GTX 780ti SC, i5 3570k @ 4.5ghz, 16gb DDR3 1600mhz, MSI Z77 G43, Noctua NH D15, EVGA GQ 650W, Fractal Design Define R4, 3TB WD Caviar Blue, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, Zeitec said: No, bypass power limits, use 500W of power, throw on a liquid cooler (bringing the price up to 2080 levels), and be behind by around 15%. Until you look at 2080 frametimes jumping all over the place, or has that been fixed? Last I checked, V64 with its stock power limit is more consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 Author 10 hours ago, Zeitec said: No, bypass power limits, use 500W of power, throw on a liquid cooler (bringing the price up to 2080 levels) Unfortunately bypassing the power limit on the Vega 64 is not do able for me. I wouldn’t be able to keep it cool as I am sticking with the stock cooler and the power consumption would be incredibly high on my SFX power supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 10 hours ago, KarathKasun said: Until you look at 2080 frametimes jumping all over the place, or has that been fixed? Last I checked, V64 with its stock power limit is more consistent. I mean I never heard anything about 2080 having really poor frametime results so IDK, but Vega 64 with it's stock power limit is like 35% slower than 2080 so even if that's true I doubt Vega 64 would have better .1% results than 2080. Main System: EVGA GTX 1080 SC, i7 8700, 16GB DDR4 Corsair LPX 3000mhz CL15, Asus Z370 Prime A, Noctua NH D15, EVGA GQ 650W, Fractal Design Define R5, 2TB Seagate Barracuda, 500gb Samsung 850 Evo Secondary System: EVGA GTX 780ti SC, i5 3570k @ 4.5ghz, 16gb DDR3 1600mhz, MSI Z77 G43, Noctua NH D15, EVGA GQ 650W, Fractal Design Define R4, 3TB WD Caviar Blue, 250gb Samsung 850 Evo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 That price, I'm assuming it's a founders edition V64. Those usually have pretty bad thermals because of the blower style cooling. I'd go with a Vega 56 with better cooling...actually that's exactly what I did do a few months back. haha. The Vega 56 overclocks nicely, and so far, has handled every title I've thrown at it, with highest settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 18, 2019 Hello, They are extremely hard to compare because AMD uses Stream processors while NVIDIA uses CUDA cores. Lets start out by pointing out the obvious. The memory. The boost clock for the RTX is 1,620 and the base clock is 1,410. The Vega has a boost clock of 1,546 and a base clock of 1,247. The RTX is better for memory speeds (MHz). But other than that it is hard to compare them unless we look at some benchmarks. I checked some benchmarks and the RTX 2070 out-preformed the AMD VEGA 64. In conclusion the RTX 2070 is better than the AMD VEGA 64. What I said is just a recommendation, do whatever you feel like you want to. Thank You, The_Big_Grape Sources: https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/radeon-rx-vega-64 https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2070/ https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2070-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-64/4029vs3933 Sources Cited: “Radeon™ RX Vega⁶⁴ Graphics Card for Extreme Gamers | AMD.” AMD, www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/radeon-rx-vega-64. “Introducing NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Graphics Card.” NVIDIA, www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/graphics-cards/rtx-2070/. UserBenchmark: Nvidia GTX 1080-Ti vs Titan X Pascal, gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2070-vs-AMD-RX-Vega-64/4029vs3933. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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