1440p 144hz AAA

[BSula99]

Hey guys,

 

So I settled on a monitor with a beautiful display and excellent reviews, 144hz overclockable to 165hz, 1ms response time, and 1440p for a bit over $400 rather than a UWQHD. That frees up a considerable amount of budget (about $600) which brings a RTX 2080TI into the allowance. Should I stick with a 2080, or spring for the 2080 TI? If so, given their ongoing issues, should I go for a flagship model, or get a cheaper one and just be prepared to exchange it if needed? Given it's the same hardware, how much of a difference in real world performance do the model variants present?

[TrigrH]

22 minutes ago, BSula99 said:

of a difference in real world performance do the model variants present?

2%

 

Get a 2080ti if you can afford it. Assuming you are going for a 9900k.

[Jurrunio]

Radeon VII's expected launch date (i.e. ready for sale) will be Feb 7, I myself would wait till then and see whether 2080ti gets cheaper in response.

 

but if you're not waiting, get the 2080ti.

[Guest]

2080, 2080ti is a ripoff considering the price

[glenalz81]

A 2080 should meet your needs but if your willing and able to buy a 2080 ti you probably should.

 

As for the difference, if you intend on overclocking i'd go for a more premium card.

 

[kingmustard]

1 minute ago, ears_ears said:

2080, 2080ti is a ripoff considering the price

But if you want highest-end performance, you have no choice but to pay it.

 

Same with supercars etc.

 

It's life, unfortunately.

[Guest]

Just now, kingmustard said:

But if you want highest-end performance, you have no choice but to pay it.

 

Same with supercars etc.

 

It's life, unfortunately.

Even if I had the kind of money OP has there's no way I'm paying $700 for 20-30 FPS increase.

[kingmustard]

Just now, ears_ears said:

Even if I had the kind of money OP has there's no way I'm paying $700 for 20-30 FPS increase.

But many would.

[Mick Naughty]

No reason to get that monitor and not be able to drive it. Get the best card you can that being the 2080ti or Titan. 

 

No other cards are coming close. 

[Princess Luna]

37 minutes ago, TrigrH said:

2%

 

Get a 2080ti if you can afford it. Assuming you are going for a 9900k.

No point on the i9 9900K for gaming at all, it actually gets outperformed by the i7 9700K due to hyper-threading becoming dumb after all the security patches and limitation to speculative operations while also giving about the same performance of the i7 8700K clock for clock as still the greatest majority of games do not need the extra 2 cores.

 

But the 2080 Ti is well justified for the demanding display.

[TrigrH]

4 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

No point on the i9 9900K for gaming at all, it actually gets outperformed by the i7 9700K due to hyper-threading becoming dumb after all the security patches

Got proof on this? from what i've seen the 9700k performs really badly at 1% low frametimes compared to both hyperthreaded CPUs you mentioned.

[Zberg]

46 minutes ago, kingmustard said:

But if you want highest-end performance, you have no choice but to pay it.

 

Same with supercars etc.

 

It's life, unfortunately.

This is so true, you gotta pay.  However there is usually a high-middle ground that can be the sweet spot; maybe thats the 2080?

 

With the RTX's, the premium on the 2080ti is a pretty huge jump.  I feel like the difference from the 1080 to 1080ti pricing was like going from a stock mustang to a Z06.  It's nice, for sure, and you will pay for the difference as expected, and get similar performance upgrades.  But the jump from 2080 to 2080ti is like going from a stock vette to a lambo, and i'm not sure you are getting lambo performance.  I mean you can easily build a decent rig that will run new games for the price of the 2080ti alone (of course not max settings).  That is something.  The price point plus the fact that the RTX tech isn't solidified yet makes it a jump for the big spenders to make (ballers gonna ball). Maybe the sweet spot is the 2080.  I am worried if I SLI 2080's when the price eventually drops, I will just wish I went 2080ti from the start. 

 

I am still juggling around upgrade choices myself from SLI-970s (1080p), and whether to go 2080 on 1440p (maybe the sweet spot?) or 2080ti on 4K with the potential to do 144Hz with a future SLI.  

[Billy Pilgrim]

1 hour ago, BSula99 said:

Hey guys,

 

So I settled on a monitor with a beautiful display and excellent reviews, 144hz overclockable to 165hz, 1ms response time, and 1440p for a bit over $400 rather than a UWQHD. That frees up a considerable amount of budget (about $600) which brings a RTX 2080TI into the allowance. Should I stick with a 2080, or spring for the 2080 TI? If so, given their ongoing issues, should I go for a flagship model, or get a cheaper one and just be prepared to exchange it if needed? Given it's the same hardware, how much of a difference in real world performance do the model variants present?

What monitor?

[TahoeDust]

1 hour ago, ears_ears said:

2080, 2080ti is a ripoff considering the price

2080ti is ~30% faster...worth it if you have a monitor that can take advantage of it.

[Guest]

47 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

2080ti is ~30% faster...worth it if you have a monitor that can take advantage of it.

also costs almost twice the price

[Mick Naughty]

Yea it isn’t for everyone. Same as the 1k cpu’s People aren’t bitching about everyday. Stay in your lane if you can’t afford it. 

[TahoeDust]

1 minute ago, ears_ears said:

also costs almost twice the price

Price:Performance never scales at the top of a product stack.....ever.

[TheDankKoosh]

3 hours ago, Mick Naughty said:

No reason to get that monitor and not be able to drive it. Get the best card you can that being the 2080ti or Titan. 

 

No other cards are coming close. 

The 2080/1080 ti and presumably the Vega VII would be able to run those monitor very well at 144hz. Unless you use ridiculous settings like 8x AA and ULTRA EPIC settings. 

[Mick Naughty]

2 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

The 2080/1080 ti and presumably the Vega VII would be able to run those monitor very well at 144hz. Unless you use ridiculous settings like 8x AA and ULTRA EPIC settings. 

The 2080 Just barely keeping 144 frames in games wouldn't be very well. Doesn't matter what hz it runs at at that point. Given how close it runs to a 1080ti. So Id rather waste my money once and get a 2080ti. Even more so if the amd card if finally catching up to a 1080ti. Also how my 8700k only has about 10% to spare I would need a better cpu but op seems to be to on the right track there.

[TheDankKoosh]

16 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

The 2080 Just barely keeping 144 frames in games wouldn't be very well. Doesn't matter what hz it runs at at that point. Given how close it runs to a 1080ti. So Id rather waste my money once and get a 2080ti. Even more so if the amd card if finally catching up to a 1080ti. Also how my 8700k only has about 10% to spare I would need a better cpu but op seems to be to on the right track there.

The cheapest 2080 ti is just under 2x the price of a 2080, granted the top end usually doesn't mean the greatest value (even though the 980 ti was an amazing card for the money), but that doesn't mean that he should spend 2x the money for a 30% performance jump just to hit 144fps in some of the shitty AAA console ports. Also how the hell are you choking an 8700k with 1080 sli? Have you overclocked at all? The only game I could think of where you'd be experiencing cpu issues is with ass creed, otherwise that doesn't sound right.

[Mick Naughty]

1 minute ago, TheDankKoosh said:

The cheapest 2080 ti is just under 2x the price of a 2080, granted the top end usually doesn't mean the greatest value (even though the 980 ti was an amazing card for the money), but that doesn't mean that he should spend 2x the money for a 30% performance jump just to hit 144fps in some of the shitty AAA console ports. Also how the hell are you choking an 8700k with 1080 sli? Have you overclocked at all? The only game I could think of where you'd be experiencing cpu issues is with ass creed, otherwise that doesn't sound right.

Well I would pay that price as I have done it quite a few times. Back when people weren't complaining as much about having other options. 

Im not choking a 8700k with 1080 sli. I have it turned off, as the cpu cant handle both cards. It does in 1 of the 4 games I still play. But that doesn't really count. 

No amount of overclock is gonna make it work. If that was the case I wouldn't have stopped using all my old cpu's. 

[TheDankKoosh]

7 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

Well I would pay that price as I have done it quite a few times. Back when people weren't complaining as much about having other options. 

Im not choking a 8700k with 1080 sli. I have it turned off, as the cpu cant handle both cards. It does in 1 of the 4 games I still play. But that doesn't really count. 

No amount of overclock is gonna make it work. If that was the case I wouldn't have stopped using all my old cpu's. 

Well I'm just saying that he could drive the monitor with the half priced card, and not everyone has expendable income like you do, for instance, I'm currently going to school, and income can't be taken lightly for me, so my 1070 ti was a great choice since I only had to pay $285 compared to the 1080 ti I could've gotten for $550. I'm driving 1080p 144hz and it works great for that. I just honestly don't see the point on bleeding edge tech (yes I know I'm on a tech forum) unless you can get a good deal on it.

 

Also, I really don't see a scenario where the 8700k is choking a 1080, I've only seen 2 games that exhibit a cpu bottleneck on my 2600k at 4.6 and oc'd 1070 ti and those are both bad ports, this is out of my 50+ tested games. This is also with only single channel memory.

[TahoeDust]

28 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

The cheapest 2080 ti is just under 2x the price of a 2080...

EVGA 2080 ti Black is $1100....was $1000 until last week.

[xg32]

just grab the 2080 ti, there will be games where the 2080 ti can't reach 144/165, let alone the 2080, for your monitor it's worth it as long as you have the budget.

[Mick Naughty]

4 minutes ago, TheDankKoosh said:

Well I'm just saying that he could drive the monitor with the half priced card, and not everyone has expendable income like you do, for instance, I'm currently going to school, and income can't be taken lightly for me, so my 1070 ti was a great choice since I only had to pay $285 compared to the 1080 ti I could've gotten for $550. I'm driving 1080p 144hz and it works great for that. I just honestly don't see the point on bleeding edge tech (yes I know I'm on a tech forum) unless you can get a good deal on it.

 

Also, I really don't see a scenario where the 8700k is choking a 1080, I've only seen 2 games that exhibit a cpu bottleneck on my 2600k at 4.6 and oc'd 1070 ti and those are both bad ports, this is out of my 50+ tested games. This is also with only single channel memory.

I don't have income like that. Given the tech I have, that's clearly shown. I'll prolly have to spend 10k this year on my vehicles, so I cant bring myself to waste it on pc stuff anymore.

I can play on 1080p as well but I would need a new one for that. As 2ms and 120hz is showing its age. At 1440p, a 1080 isn't gonna get the frames I need. 

Again I didn't say the cpu was choking anything, If I use two cards there will be issues. Bad port or not, if the hardware isn't sufficient I don't want to use it. Like trying to play bo4 with a 4770k, sure it works just isn't preferred.