Amd A10 7850 review, benchmark {OP UPDATE }

[RespawnCake]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7677/amd-kaveri-review-a8-7600-a10-7850k/16

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/174632-amd-kaveri-a10-7850k-and-a8-7600-review-was-it-worth-the-wait-for-the-first-true-heterogeneous-chip

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/CPU-Hardware-154106/Tests/Kaveri-A10-7850K-Spiele-Tests-Benchmarks-APU-1104954/galerie/2130310/

 

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 "They doesn't really address the elephant in the room that even for gaming, a low end cpu like the athlon X4 with a HD7750 will be considerably faster than any APU. So in this regard, I disagree with the conclusions that for low end gaming kaveri is the best solution. It is disappointing actually, that he did not use a HD7750 GDDR5 as the discrete gpu comparison, because that would have given a more direct comparison of how the bandwidth restrictions are affecting Kaveri.

I will say though that the low TDP parts seem to get a nice improvement in performance. They actually seem more attractive that the high end, since there is little gaming improvement in the top end vs Richland"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Kilerbomb]

You forgot the OpenCL comparison. There's a HUGE jump from the A10 5800k to the A10-7850k.

[needmorewood]

perfect for my steam machine! get this puppey play indie games on it then stream shit from my gaming PC

[AlwaysFSX]

That's not that bad actually. I like those numbers because that means a budget builder can get very good performance for the money

[Crisi]

I wonder how much of an overclock you could get out of that apu

[RespawnCake]

You forgot the OpenCL comparison. There's a HUGE jump from the A10 5800k to the A10-7850k.

 

Yes there is, but i waited for benchmark that would show real word usage-games.Most people buy apu because of cheap price and ability to play games on budget.I was interested to see how will a10 7850k compete against 7750,so far unfortunately not so good.

Something like athlon x4 740+hd 7770 would destroy it,and the price is nearly the same+you can even get 1333mhz ram 

[Kilerbomb]

Yes there is, but i waited for benchmark that would show real word usage-games.Most people buy apu because of cheap price and ability to play games on budget.I was interested to see how will a10 7850k compete against 7750,so far unfortunately not so good.

Something like athlon x4 740+hd 7770 would destroy it,and the price is nearly the same+you can even get 1333mhz ram

For me that jump is worth it. I have a build I'm working on ( http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/99889-project-miniconsole/ ) that I'll be using an AMD APU for, and I will be able to utilize the OpenCL performance gain. So this is good news for me.

[isteelsolz]

I Think The A10-7850k supports dual graphics with the 7750 or the 7770, not sure about the new R7's though. But i3+7770 vs 7850k+7770 (dual graphics) could be very interesting indeed.

[qwertywarrior]

a better benchmark would be A10 7850 with disabled iGPU and a 7750

 

so we can see how much of a difference high bandwidth memory effects it

[TechFan@ic]

I'd love to see the 7850K running dual graphics with an HD 7750 or an R7 260.
AMD has a frame-pacing driver coming for dual-graphics this month, so the performance improvements will be very noticeable.

I don't necessarily believe that a 7850K + a 7750 will give you the best bang for buck gaming performance.
More likely you'll be better off with a Steamroller based Athlon CPU + an HD 7850 for gaming performance, however on notebooks dual graphics is a huge deal since it's a very power-constrained environment, we could be looking at very powerful gaming laptops for $500.

[ZetZet]

Well, I already have 7750 in my old pc and I can't wait to upgrade. This is not an upgrade for me. :mellow:

[kuddlesworth9419]

It's overclocked. How about you oc the gpu on the i3 and then compare it.

[carolkarine]

I'd love to see the 7850K running dual graphics with an HD 7750 or an R9 260.

AMD has a frame-pacing driver coming for dual-graphics this months, so the performance improvements will be very noticeable.

I don't necessarily believe that a 7850K + a 7750 will give you the best bang for buck gaming performance.

More likely you'll be better off with a Steamroller based Athlon CPU + an HD 7850 for gaming performance, however on notebooks dual graphics is a huge deal since it's a very power-constrained environment, we could be looking at very powerful gaming laptops for $500.

Wait, there are going to be athalons with steamroller?

[TechFan@ic]

Wait, there are going to be athalons with steamroller?

Yes ! chips with defective GPUs have to go somewhere.

Also AMD have already confirmed CPU only quad core Steamroller chips for servers.

[bluedyguard]

It's overclocked. How about you oc the gpu on the i3 and then compare it.

The CPU is overclocked and the GPU a little bit and as you might know, Intel:"Unlocking lower-end chips for better value? HAHA LOL NOPE". Also, the i3 has a HD7750, how would OC-ing the iGPU help?

[kuddlesworth9419]

The CPU is overclocked and the GPU a little bit and as you might know, Intel:"Unlocking lower-end chips for better value? HAHA LOL NOPE". Also, the i3 has a HD7750, how would OC-ing the iGPU help?

Sorry I have never used any of the low end parts so I didn't know you couldn't overclock them. Silly me.

[bluedyguard]

Sorry I have never used any of the low end parts so I didn't know you couldn't overclock them. Silly me.

No problem. 

[kuddlesworth9419]

No problem. 

Is there a reason why Intel doesn't allow overclocking on i3's and i5's. Because I guess that would be pretty cool if you where on a budget if you wanted to get better performance. 

[bluedyguard]

Is there a reason why Intel doesn't allow overclocking on i3's and i5's. Because I guess that would be pretty cool if you where on a budget if you wanted to get better performance. 

Because money. Want 200MHz extra? 20$.

[Psychatog]

Is there a reason why Intel doesn't allow overclocking on i3's and i5's. Because I guess that would be pretty cool if you where on a budget if you wanted to get better performance. 

The image.  An unlocked I3 requires voltage stability and most people buying I3's are not techie's like us.  They figure most people buying higher end k sku's will have a better knowledge base on OCing.  Where as AMD just doesn't care.  We disabled 2 cores but if you want you can unlock, OC and kill your chip.  We just don't guarantee it.  Intel doesn't want people accidentally unlocking their I3's.

[kuddlesworth9419]

The image.  An unlocked I3 requires voltage stability and most people buying I3's are not techie's like us.  They figure most people buying higher end k sku's will have a better knowledge base on OCing.  Where as AMD just doesn't care.  We disabled 2 cores but if you want you can unlock, OC and kill your chip.  We just don't guarantee it.  Intel doesn't want people accidentally unlocking their I3's.

Ok I understand for someone that doesn't know anything but a non-tech savvy person wouldn't even know how to OC their CPU, so why does it matter if all Intel CPU's are unlocked. It would be nice to know how many AMD CPU's are fried because people don't know what they are doing because I doubt it is very many.

[carolkarine]

Ok I understand for someone that doesn't know anything but a non-tech savvy person wouldn't even know how to OC their CPU, so why does it matter if all Intel CPU's are unlocked. It would be nice to know how many AMD CPU's are fried because people don't know what they are doing because I doubt it is very many.

 

I mean, I got a bunch of really old stuff from my school that they were chucking. I borrowed an NH-D14 from a friend and fried 32 Athalon X2 5600B's. I got one to 4.03 Ghz. but they all died.

[WoodenMarker]

Oh dear...is the naming scheme making sense now? 

[martinrox1568]

Is there a reason why Intel doesn't allow overclocking on i3's and i5's. Because I guess that would be pretty cool if you where on a budget if you wanted to get better performance. 

haven't you heard of the 2500k, the 3570k, and the 4670k? There's a reason the "K" is there. Only k series chips can be overclocked. same thing with i7's

[RainbowTylernol]

This is gonna be awesome with DDR4 memory