Posted December 14, 2018 Author 1 minute ago, AnonymousGuy said: Disagree a bit. I just went from a top of the line X99 board to a mid-high range Z390 and I feel a lot more "crammed" on the Z390 board. I only have 4 SATA ports because 2 of them are disabled when using M.2, for example. A lot less flexibility on PCIe card placement too (I don't even think I could work with some of the lower Z390 boards since they'll have 3 M.2 slots and 1 x16 PCie slot...strangely) For the majority of people though, Z390 or Z370 is where it is at. Yeah, that's why I was asking the question. I don't really take use of most of what x299 has to offer. I'm only running one M.2 drive, one HDD, and one GPU. So I don't really need all the lanes it has. I guess it's nice if I ever get into any editing of any kind, but I'm not very creative, so I doubt I will.. Lol. Most I would ever do is go all SSD storage with multiple 1TB or 2TB SSDs and raid 0 them. Which you can easily do on the mainstream platform as well, unless I'm mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, ApexSutton31 said: Yeah, that's why I was asking the question. I don't really take use of most of what x299 has to offer. I'm only running one M.2 drive, one HDD, and one GPU. So I don't really need all the lanes it has. I guess it's nice if I ever get into any editing of any kind, but I'm not very creative, so I doubt I will.. Lol. Most I would ever do is go all SSD storage with multiple 1TB or 2TB SSDs and raid 0 them. Which you can easily do on the mainstream platform as well, unless I'm mistaken If you don't have plans to get crazy with SLI / 10Gbit / video capture / etc then mainstream is for you. I used to be crazier and have all that going on where I really liked having 8 x16 slots (the X99 board had 2x PLX chips to do all that bandwidth). Re: raid SSD...I would recommend to just buy a bigger drive than raiding 2 smaller ones. And also evaluate whether you really *need* all your data to be on SSD. Chances are you can easily fit all your games and OS on a 1TB drive and leave the "cold storage" to either mechanical or a SATA SSD. Workstation: 14700nonK || Asus Z790 ProArt Creator || MSI Gaming Trio 4090 Shunt || Crucial Pro Overclocking 32GB @ 5600 || Corsair AX1600i@240V || whole-house loop. LANRig/GuestGamingBox: 13700K @ Stock || MSI Z690 DDR4 || ASUS TUF 3090 650W shunt || Corsair SF600 || CPU+GPU watercooled 280 rad pull only || whole-house loop. Server Router (Untangle): 13600k @ Stock || ASRock Z690 ITX || All 10Gbe || 2x8GB 3200 || PicoPSU 150W 24pin + AX1200i on CPU|| whole-house loop Server Compute/Storage: 10850K @ 5.1Ghz || Gigabyte Z490 Ultra || EVGA FTW3 3090 1000W || LSI 9280i-24 port || 4TB Samsung 860 Evo, 5x10TB Seagate Enterprise Raid 6, 4x8TB Seagate Archive Backup || whole-house loop. Laptop: HP Elitebook 840 G8 (Intel 1185G7) + 3060 RTX Thunderbolt Dock, Razer Blade Stealth 13" 2017 (Intel 8550U) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2018 1 hour ago, AnonymousGuy said: Disagree a bit. I just went from a top of the line X99 board to a mid-high range Z390 and I feel a lot more "crammed" on the Z390 board. I only have 4 SATA ports because 2 of them are disabled when using M.2, for example (and I'm using all 4 SATA ports). A lot less flexibility on PCIe card placement too (I don't even think I could work with some of the lower Z390 boards since they'll have 3 M.2 slots and 1 x16 PCie slot...strangely). Z390 in general seems to have a lot of caveats like "if you connect this, this other thing is disabled". For the majority of people though, Z390 or Z370 is where it is at. Well obviously if you went from a top of the line board to a midrange board you will have more limited space and features.................... If you got a top of the line Z390 board you wouldn't have any of those complaints. NEW PC build: Blank Heaven minimalist white and black PC Old S340 build log "White Heaven" The "LIGHTCANON" flashlight build log Project AntiRoll (prototype) Custom speaker project Spoiler Ryzen 3950X | AMD Vega Frontier Edition | ASUS X570 Pro WS | Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB | NZXT H500 | Seasonic Prime Fanless TX-700 | Custom loop | Coolermaster SK630 White | Logitech MX Master 2S | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Pro 512GB | Samsung 58" 4k TV | Scarlett 2i4 | 2x AT2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Jurrunio said: only 8 core 8 thread CPU is the 9700k... but 8700k and 9700k are identical in performance despite the difference in core count and HT support Gonna have to call serious bullshit on this from the bechmarks/reviews i've seen. Stop spouting falsehoods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 14, 2018 Author 1 hour ago, AnonymousGuy said: If you don't have plans to get crazy with SLI / 10Gbit / video capture / etc then mainstream is for you. I used to be crazier and have all that going on where I really liked having 8 x16 slots (the X99 board had 2x PLX chips to do all that bandwidth). Re: raid SSD...I would recommend to just buy a bigger drive than raiding 2 smaller ones. And also evaluate whether you really *need* all your data to be on SSD. Chances are you can easily fit all your games and OS on a 1TB drive and leave the "cold storage" to either mechanical or a SATA SSD. Yeah, I don't go crazy with any of that stuff, so mainstream will most likely be my next upgrade once the next gens of cpus come out from both sides. Yeah, I'm just one of those weird people who doesn't like to uninstall many games and stuff, even when I know I won't play half of them or use certain software I have downloaded... Lol. I'm running a 4TB WD hard drive as bulk game storage right now with a WD M.2 for OS and other software like OBS and what not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Arct1c0n said: Gonna have to call serious bullshit on this from the bechmarks/reviews i've seen. Stop spouting falsehoods To prove your claim you will need to post actual data, otherwise you're no more credible than I am CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Arct1c0n said: Gonna have to call serious bullshit on this from the bechmarks/reviews i've seen. Stop spouting falsehoods When clocked the same, they have almost identical performance. 8086k Winner BABY!! Main rig CPU: R7 5800x3d (-25 all core CO 102 bclk) Board: Gigabyte B550 AD UC Cooler: Corsair H150i AIO Ram: 32gb HP V10 RGB 3200 C14 (3733 C14) tuned subs GPU: EVGA XC3 RTX 3080 (+120 core +950 mem 90% PL) Case: Thermaltake H570 TG Snow Edition PSU: Fractal ION Plus 760w Platinum SSD: 1tb Teamgroup MP34 2tb Mushkin Pilot-E Monitors: 32" Samsung Odyssey G7 (1440p 240hz), Some FHD Acer 24" VA GFs System CPU: E5 1660v3 (4.3ghz 1.2v) Mobo: Gigabyte x99 UD3P Cooler: Corsair H100i AIO Ram: 32gb Crucial Ballistix 3600 C16 (3000 C14) GPU: EVGA RTX 2060 Super Case: Phanteks P400A Mesh PSU: Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 650w SSD: Kingston NV1 2tb Monitors: 27" Viotek GFT27DB (1440p 144hz), Some 24" BENQ 1080p IPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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