Pre-built for around 1k max?

[OnionRings]

Looking for a good pre built for my bro in law but the catch is, it doesn't even need a GPU, just upgrade-able. I want to get a good GPU and ill probably pass my 1060 on to him, so no GPU is fine, but it HAS to be upgrade-able.

[OnionRings]

Not sure how much upgrading can be done to this https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Optiplex-Performance-Professional-Refurbished/dp/B00SAO8KEG/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1544699383&sr=1-2&keywords=prebuilt+pc&refinements=p_n_feature_fourteen_browse-bin%3A2057441011%2Cp_36%3A100-100000 but a decent older gen i7, 500gb hdd, could add an SSD for booting, slap in the 1060 and maybe change PSU?

[GoldenLag]

do you have the ability to put something together or pre-builds only?

 

look for something with a B450 motherboard, an r3 2200G, 8GB of fast memmory, an SSD and that is about what you need to look at. should cost about 500$ Max

 

you can slot in CPUs hopefully into 2020 using the AM4 plattform. 

[OnionRings]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

do you have the ability to put something together or pre-builds only?

 

look for something with a B450 motherboard, an r3 2200G, 8GB of fast memmory, an SSD and that is about what you need to look at. should cost about 500$ Max

 

you can slot in CPUs hopefully into 2020 using the AM4 plattform. 

I can build yea but it looked more expensive, then again maybe im just rusty at part picking. I did forgot those new ryzens were a thing, they are what 4 cores with built in gpu?

[GoldenLag]

Just now, OnionRings said:

I can build yea but it looked more expensive, then again maybe im just rusty at part picking. I did forgot those new ryzens were a thing, they are what 4 cores with built in gpu?

4 cores 4 threads and overclockable.

vega 8 graphics included which are quite fast compared to any other iGPU offering. 

 

currently browsing for some prebuilds.

[LukeSavenije]

is there a specific reason for getting a pre-built? we can show you some components, and if you really don't want to build it yourself, you can let your local hardware shop do it. It will me much better upgradeable and less limited in some ways, oems can cheap out on some important things

[OnionRings]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

is there a specific reason for getting a pre-built? we can show you some components, and if you really don't want to build it yourself, you can let your local hardware shop do it. It will me much better upgradeable and less limited in some ways, oems can cheap out on some important things

I'm good with building it, built my own rig. Like I said to the last guy though I'm rusty with picking parts, if you pick them I could build it easy though.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, OnionRings said:

I'm good with building it, built my own rig. Like I said to the last guy though I'm rusty with picking parts, if you pick them I could build it easy though.

I can. so 1000 bucks for the tower only? something you want to keep from your current machine? and I assume us dollars?

[OnionRings]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

I can. so 1000 bucks for the tower only? something you want to keep from your current machine? and I assume us dollars?

Well 1k is the max he wants to spend but he said the cheaper the better. I was thinking a small SSD for booting and long loading screen games, a big hdd for mass games, im giving him my 1060 so no need for that. If we do end up spending as much as 1k, not the tower only. He is a console pleb so he needs everything, keyboard, mouse, monitor.

[LukeSavenije]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$170.98 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$59.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$104.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$39.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg Business
Video Card	Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Dual Video Card	Purchased For $0.00
Case	Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 TG ATX Mid Tower Case	$39.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair - CX (2017) 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$43.98 @ Newegg
Monitor	LG - 29UM69G-B 29.0" 2560x1080 75 Hz Monitor	$242.89 @ OutletPC
Keyboard	Redragon - K552-R KUMARA Wired Gaming Keyboard	$34.49 @ Amazon
Mouse	Redragon - M602 Wired Optical Mouse	$15.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$853.28
	Mail-in rebates	-$45.00
	Total	$808.28
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-13 06:30 EST-0500

something like this maybe?

[chiller15]

Pre-built machines are generally more expensive compared to building it yourself. However, I'd recommend going down the pre-built route if you're doing this for someone else. As if something goes wrong with the machine, they can contact the reseller/manufacturer to get it resolved. However if you've built the system and something goes wrong - they will come to you to fix it.

[OnionRings]

1 minute ago, chiller15 said:

Pre-built machines are generally more expensive compared to building it yourself. However, I'd recommend going down the pre-built route if you're doing this for someone else. As if something goes wrong with the machine, they can contact the reseller/manufacturer to get it resolved. However if you've built the system and something goes wrong - they will come to you to fix it.

LOL they own laptops and still come to me, so it wont be much different.

 

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor	$170.98 @ Newegg
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$59.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$104.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$39.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$54.99 @ Newegg Business
Video Card	Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6 GB Dual Video Card	Purchased For $0.00
Case	Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 TG ATX Mid Tower Case	$39.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair - CX (2017) 750 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$43.98 @ Newegg
Monitor	LG - 29UM69G-B 29.0" 2560x1080 75 Hz Monitor	$242.89 @ OutletPC
Keyboard	Redragon - K552-R KUMARA Wired Gaming Keyboard	$34.49 @ Amazon
Mouse	Redragon - M602 Wired Optical Mouse	$15.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$853.28
	Mail-in rebates	-$45.00
	Total	$808.28
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-13 06:30 EST-0500

something like this maybe?

Seems like a good price to include everything.

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, OnionRings said:

LOL they own laptops and still come to me, so it wont be much different.

 

Seems like a good price to include everything.

btw, I added the cx750 because it's on sale. 450/550 watt will do here too

[GoldenLag]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($89.00 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450M BAZOOKA Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($60.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Gigabyte - UD PRO 256 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($36.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: Thermaltake - Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($62.44 @ Walmart) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: LG - 29UM69G-B 29.0" 2560x1080 75 Hz Monitor  ($242.89 @ OutletPC) 
Keyboard: Redragon - K552-R KUMARA Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($34.49 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Redragon - M602 Wired Optical Mouse  ($15.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $747.75
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-13 06:34 EST-0500

 

 

similar to @LukeSavenijebuild suggestion. though you can up the CPU to his suggestion. other than that this is more aimed at smaller formfactor

 

 

edit: didnt include HDD will add that, 2 sek

edit2: HDD now added

[NelizMastr]

1 minute ago, OnionRings said:

Well 1k is the max he wants to spend but he said the cheaper the better. I was thinking a small SSD for booting and long loading screen games, a big hdd for mass games, im giving him my 1060 so no need for that. If we do end up spending as much as 1k, not the tower only. He is a console pleb so he needs everything, keyboard, mouse, monitor.

If you're giving him the GTX1060 straight away it's easier for us, as the Ryzen 5 2600 is just the best CPU all round, but it doesn't have graphics built-in. Otherwise, we'd step down to the 2400G, which isn't bad, but not a gaming power house.

 

If you give him the 1060 immediately, this is all he'll need:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($170.98 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.46 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($122.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.87 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: AOC - i2367Fh 23.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($30.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel  Headset  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Speakers: Logitech - Z333 40 W 2.1ch Speakers  ($74.98 @ B&H) 
Total: $985.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-13 06:32 EST-0500

 

Otherwise:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8500 3 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($235.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B360 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($96.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.87 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: AOC - i2367Fh 23.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($30.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel  Headset  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Speakers: Logitech - Z333 40 W 2.1ch Speakers  ($74.98 @ B&H) 
Total: $993.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-13 06:34 EST-0500

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

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too bad there aren't that many good matx boards for ryzen. but it seems like a fair build for the price

[OnionRings]

1 minute ago, NelizMastr said:

If you're giving him the GTX1060 straight away it's easier for us, as the Ryzen 5 2600 is just the best CPU all round, but it doesn't have graphics built-in. Otherwise, we'd step down to the 2400G, which isn't bad, but not a gaming power house.

 

If you give him the 1060 immediately, this is all he'll need:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($170.98 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($114.46 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($122.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.87 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: AOC - i2367Fh 23.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($30.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel  Headset  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Speakers: Logitech - Z333 40 W 2.1ch Speakers  ($74.98 @ B&H) 
Total: $985.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-13 06:32 EST-0500

 

Otherwise:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8500 3 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($235.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B360 Pro4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($96.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Crucial - P1 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($54.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($65.87 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: AOC - i2367Fh 23.0" 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Keyboard: Redragon - K552 Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($30.99 @ Amazon) 
Mouse: Logitech - G403 Prodigy Wired Optical Mouse  ($34.99 @ Amazon) 
Headphones: Logitech - G430 7.1 Channel  Headset  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Speakers: Logitech - Z333 40 W 2.1ch Speakers  ($74.98 @ B&H) 
Total: $993.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-13 06:34 EST-0500

I'll show him and see what he thinks but he's kinda iffy on spending 1k, but ill show him for sure.

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

too bad there aren't that many good matx boards for ryzen. but it seems like a fair build for the price

Gigabyte is selling Cached drives for quite cheap, so i recommend swapping the A400 in you build with that instead.

 

edit: sadly the pretty good mATX PRO4 boards have gone up in price. kinda ruined the valueproposition of that board.

[LukeSavenije]

7 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Gigabyte is selling Cached drives for quite cheap, so i recommend swapping the A400 in you build with that instead.

 

edit: sadly the pretty good mATX PRO4 boards have gone up in price. kinda ruined the valueproposition of that board.

true. itx boards actually have better vrm cooling on ryzen in general. the 860 evo and mx500 are pretty cheap too these days. you can get a 500 gb 860 evo for just 72 bucks. I paid 120 bucks for it 7 months ago

[NelizMastr]

11 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

too bad there aren't that many good matx boards for ryzen. but it seems like a fair build for the price

The MSI B450 Mortar boards are pretty good, though. They also have a BIOS flashback feature that can update BIOS without a CPU. My gf put one in her new R5 2600 system. It was finally time to let her Haswell Xeon E3 go (previously mine haha).

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, NelizMastr said:

The MSI B450 Mortar boards are pretty good, though. They also have a BIOS flashback feature that can update BIOS without a CPU. My gf put one in her new R5 2600 system. It was finally time to let her Haswell Xeon E3 go.

yeah, i should have said Mortar is one of them. but atx is absolutly the best on ryzen. matx are just a small selection of mobo's already, and gets even less when you want even a vrm heatsink.

[Ertman]

Might have missed this, but is this for gaming? If so, while Ryzen offers better value, Intel for the most part still offers better performance.

[Settlerteo]

+1 for the first build proposition by @LukeSavenije

[LukeSavenije]

1 hour ago, Ertman said:

Might have missed this, but is this for gaming? If so, while Ryzen offers better value, Intel for the most part still offers better performance.

for the most part. true. I want to be surprised at ces next year. they might be able to take over. but who knows...

[OnionRings]

20 hours ago, Ertman said:

Might have missed this, but is this for gaming? If so, while Ryzen offers better value, Intel for the most part still offers better performance.

but intel expensiiiiiiiiiive