2080 ti low fps

[Acceptive]

Hey guys

So I was playing far cry 5 on my new 2080 ti that I just installed today, and my fps was a bit low. I was playing far cry 5 maxed out at 4k and my average fps was around 60-65, it would also drop below 60 alot. I did the benchmark and it averages 55 fps. I honestly was expecting closer to 75-80ish. My pc specs are a 750 watt evga psu, an i7 4790, and 16 gb ddr3 at 1600 mhz. Also I appear to have the latest drivers. Any ideas on what could be wrong?

[dannolt]

Could you give us the exact settings ?

[XR6]

8 minutes ago, Acceptive said:

playing far cry 5 maxed out at 4k

 

8 minutes ago, Acceptive said:

i7 4790

Found your problem. Try lowering the resolution to 1440p.

[TahoeDust]

Haha...we're complaining about maxed out Far Cry 5 at 60-65fps in 4k?  Come on man, I have a 2080ti and would not expect any more.  That's pretty stout.

[Acceptive]

Just now, 1kv said:

 

Found your problem. Try lowering the settings to 1440p.

is my cpu really a bottleneck?

[Acceptive]

Just now, TahoeDust said:

Haha...we're complaining about maxed out Far Cry 5 at 60-65fps in 4k?  Come on man, I have a 2080ti and would not expect any more.  That's pretty stout.

meh it drops below 60 alot, and other people in the youtube videos are getting more fps

[XR6]

Possibly. You've paired it with a 2080 Ti and you're maxing it out at 4K. Plus, the 4790 was released in Q2 2014. That makes it 4 years old. It's still a great CPU though unless you're trying to absolutely max it out at 4K.

Plus, 50+ fps is pretty good for maxed out 4K. 

[TahoeDust]

7 minutes ago, Acceptive said:

is my cpu really a bottleneck?

Probably not.  Your CPU does really not care what res you play at...it is not doing the rendering.  It cares about FPS and providing info for every frame.  60FPS should not bottleneck your 4790.

[TahoeDust]

2 minutes ago, Acceptive said:

meh it drops below 60 alot, and other people in the youtube videos are getting more fps

Hmmm...I play Far Cry 5, but at 3440x1440 100Hz.  I will hook up to my 4k TV and see what frames I get tomorrow.  My 2080 ti just got a water block put on it tonight and is leak testing.  

[Spotty]

9 minutes ago, Acceptive said:

I was playing far cry 5 maxed out at 4k and my average fps was around 60-65, it would also drop below 60 alot. I did the benchmark and it averages 55 fps.

Looking at benchmark and reviews, they're averaging about 70FPS with drops to around 55FPS. You're not that far off.

 

Considering you're using an older CPU and slower DDR3, that might be responsible for the slight performance loss you're seeing. Run MSI afterburners On Screen Display while playing and check what your CPU usage is at during the benchmark. Show all core usage.

 

Otherwise just turn the settings down to "Very High" instead of Ultra.

[Alex Atkin UK]

20 minutes ago, TahoeDust said:

Probably not.  Your CPU does really not care what res you play at...it is not doing the rendering.  It cares about FPS and providing info for every frame.  60FPS should not bottleneck your 4790.

Not true, on an 8600K @ 4.8Ghz I can run Assassins Creed Odyssey with about 60% CPU at 1080p 60Hz, at 4K 50Hz (I prefer that to dropping the rendering resolution) it lingers around 80% with spikes to 100% in towns.  Higher resolution = longer draw distance = more CPU usage, depending on how they set the distance rendering.  That's on an RTX 2080 btw.

Not sure if Far Cry uses the same engine but I would not be surprised.  Its also been identified that Far Cry 5 performs a bit rough (stutters) on anything under eight cores right now.

[TahoeDust]

11 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Not true, on an 8600K @ 4.8Ghz I can run Assassins Creed Odyssey with about 60% CPU at 1080p 60Hz, at 4K 50Hz (I prefer that to dropping the rendering resolution) it lingers around 80% with spikes to 100% in towns.  Higher resolution = longer draw distance = more CPU usage, depending on how they set the distance rendering.  That's on an RTX 2080 btw.

Not sure if Far Cry uses the same engine but I would not be surprised.  Its been identified that Far Cry 5 performs a bit rough on anything under eight cores right now.

In my experience and generally everyone elses I know of, as resolution increases, fps decreases, and so does CPU usage.

 

Try comparing CPU usage at 1080p 240Hz to 4k 60Hz in almost any game.  CPU usage will be lower.

[Acceptive]

15 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Looking at benchmark and reviews, they're averaging about 70FPS with drops to around 55FPS. You're not that far off.

 

Considering you're using an older CPU and slower DDR3, that might be responsible for the slight performance loss you're seeing. Run MSI afterburners On Screen Display while playing and check what your CPU usage is at during the benchmark. Show all core usage.

 

Otherwise just turn the settings down to "Very High" instead of Ultra.

all my temps are great, cpu never goes above 70 percent and gpu stays at over 90 percent usage, its also using half my ram

4 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Not true, on an 8600K @ 4.8Ghz I can run Assassins Creed Odyssey with about 60% CPU at 1080p 60Hz, at 4K 50Hz (I prefer that to dropping the rendering resolution) it lingers around 80% with spikes to 100% in towns.  Higher resolution = longer draw distance = more CPU usage, depending on how they set the distance rendering.  That's on an RTX 2080 btw.

Not sure if Far Cry uses the same engine but I would not be surprised.  Its also been identified that Far Cry 5 performs a bit rough (stutters) on anything under eight cores right now.

well thats some bad news, i spent alot on this card and i dont feel like putting more money into my pc

[Acceptive]

7 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Not true, on an 8600K @ 4.8Ghz I can run Assassins Creed Odyssey with about 60% CPU at 1080p 60Hz, at 4K 50Hz (I prefer that to dropping the rendering resolution) it lingers around 80% with spikes to 100% in towns.  Higher resolution = longer draw distance = more CPU usage, depending on how they set the distance rendering.  That's on an RTX 2080 btw.

Not sure if Far Cry uses the same engine but I would not be surprised.  Its also been identified that Far Cry 5 performs a bit rough (stutters) on anything under eight cores right now.

could overclocking my ram help?

[TahoeDust]

Just now, Acceptive said:

could overclocking my ram help?

I doubt it.

[XR6]

3 minutes ago, Acceptive said:

could overclocking my ram help?

It'd make a small difference at best. Maybe 2-4 fps?

[Acceptive]

yea i saw a video with an 8700k at 5.3 ghz, he was getting like 90 fps, yall think my cpu is just too old?

[Spotty]

5 minutes ago, Acceptive said:

all my temps are great, cpu never goes above 70 percent and gpu stays at over 90 percent usage, its also using half my ram

Turn the settings down to Very High then. Ultra is really not necessary.

 

Just now, Acceptive said:

yea i saw a video with an 8700k at 5.3 ghz, he was getting like 90 fps, yall think my cpu is just too old?

With the same settings?

[xg32]

41 minutes ago, Acceptive said:

Hey guys

So I was playing far cry 5 on my new 2080 ti that I just installed today, and my fps was a bit low. I was playing far cry 5 maxed out at 4k and my average fps was around 60-65, it would also drop below 60 alot. I did the benchmark and it averages 55 fps. I honestly was expecting closer to 75-80ish. My pc specs are a 750 watt evga psu, an i7 4790, and 16 gb ddr3 at 1600 mhz. Also I appear to have the latest drivers. Any ideas on what could be wrong?

your 4790 is bottlenecking for sure, the youtube video with the 8700k, he also turned off stuff like motion blur and bloom, i get slightly less fps than he does on 5.1 on a 9900k, 75-98, i dont think i saw a 75 low on the vid.

 

Even the 8600k bottlenecks in fc5, it's probably not worth upgrading the cpu over 1 game however. The quality setting, even if you turn it lower, does not solve cpu bottlenecks.

[Acceptive]

Just now, Spotty said:

Turn the settings down to Very High then. Ultra is really not necessary.

 

With the same settings?

yes, exact same settings

[Acceptive]

Just now, xg32 said:

your 4790 is bottlenecking for sure, the youtube video with the 8700k, he also turned off stuff like motion blur and bloom, i get slightly less fps than he does on 5.1 on a 9900k, 75-98, i dont think i saw a 75 low on the vid.

sounds about right, although my cpu doesnt go above 70 percent usage.

[xg32]

Just now, Acceptive said:

sounds about right, although my cpu doesnt go above 70 percent usage.

thats just the way the threads are used, you'll rarely see a 8/12/16 thread cpu used to full in a game, i think i get 60%~ on farcry 5 and 85% in ashes.

[Spotty]

1 minute ago, Acceptive said:

sounds about right, although my cpu doesnt go above 70 percent usage.

You will need to show all core usage, not just total usage. There are likely some cores doing light tasks such as handling game audio sitting on 50%, with other cores performing different tasks like AI or physics calculations maxed out at 100%.

[Acceptive]

1 minute ago, Spotty said:

You will need to show all core usage, not just total usage. There are likely some cores doing light tasks such as handling game audio sitting on 50%, with other cores performing different tasks like AI or physics calculations maxed out at 100%.

all cores are within 20 percent of each other

[Cereal5]

22 minutes ago, Acceptive said:

sounds about right, although my cpu doesnt go above 70 percent usage.

Doesn't matter. Even if all your cores stay under 80% or so (generally 80%+ means a bottleneck), the design of the CPU will hinder FPS slightly no matter what. That's just how it works.

 

17 minutes ago, Acceptive said:

all cores are within 20 percent of each other

If one core is at 70 and one is at 90, then you have a bottleneck. Even so, as mentioned above, you simply won't get the frame rates that an 8700K can get.