my brother thought he could do a PC build without me XD (suggestions on a PSU)

[BootyDustBandit]

okay so my brother tried building his own gaming pc. it's decent and will run decent game at a playable FPS. As you can see from the part list I threw together his PSU only has a 4 pin CPU power connector and his motherboard requires an 8 pin. So what would you guys suggest I put in here? I have learned not to trust the TDP pcpartpicker gives me because it always is lower than what it actually ends up being.

specs for the system:
 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - A10-6800K 4.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor	Purchased For $125.00
Motherboard	Gigabyte - GA-F2A78M-HD2 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard	Purchased For $50.00
Memory	Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR3-1333 Memory	Purchased For $65.99
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	Purchased For $44.85
Video Card	PNY - GeForce GT 610 1 GB Video Card	Purchased For $100.00
Power Supply	Logisys - 480 W ATX Power Supply	Purchased For $0.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$385.84
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-29 09:58 EST-0500

 

[LukeSavenije]

a different psu because that one is crap

[AngryBeaver]

5 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

a different psu because that one is crap

For the love of god get him a new GPU. You can get a 970 for less than $100 used now! Also a cheap SSD for the OS would make that thing feel like a rocket ship.

 

Whoops quoted wrong person.

[TH3R34P3R]

1 minute ago, AngryBeaver said:

For the love of god get him a new GPU. You can get a 970 for less than $100 used now!

i was going to say the same thing, you just beat me to it... 

[Sa1tama]

For 100$ get an used 1050 ti with evga 500w. (new 25$)

[ThatBlockishWay]

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-6700-a10-6800k-richland-review,3528-11.html

I was gonna say you may not need the other four pin as they provide 150W but it looks like you may just be power throttling, you may be able to get away with a molex to four pin if you're really strapped for cash or something

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ATX-4-Pin-EPS12V-to-Dual-4-Pin-Molex-Male-Motherboard-Power-Supply-Adapter-Cable/253611087443?hash=item3b0c661653:g:1mMAAOSw6D1a60KZ:rk:1:pf:0&LH_BIN=1

[LukeSavenije]

okay, i'll be direct. where are you buying this? what is your budget? I'll take a look for you then. because I really wouldn't trust that psu

[AngryBeaver]

I would try to do something more like this instead of just a PSU

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NKPBYT
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NKPBYT/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - A10-6800K 4.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (Purchased For $125.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-F2A78M-HD2 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  (Purchased For $50.00)
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  (Purchased For $65.99)
Storage: Patriot - Burst 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($35.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $44.85)
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GT 610 1 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $100.00)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Other: Used GTX 970 (ebay) ($90.00)
Total: $534.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-29 10:24 EST-0500

 

So that puts the total at about $150

[ThatBlockishWay]

2 minutes ago, AngryBeaver said:

I would try to do something more like this instead of just a PSU

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NKPBYT
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/NKPBYT/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - A10-6800K 4.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  (Purchased For $125.00)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-F2A78M-HD2 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard  (Purchased For $50.00)
Memory: Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  (Purchased For $65.99)
Storage: Patriot - Burst 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($35.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $44.85)
Video Card: PNY - GeForce GT 610 1 GB Video Card  (Purchased For $100.00)
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Other: Used GTX 970 (ebay) ($90.00)
Total: $534.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-29 10:24 EST-0500

I beleive he already bought all the parts, but if you're using a ddr3 platform lga 1155 is by farrr a better option especially on the used market

[Fasauceome]

Ok, does your family live outside the US? Because that's the only reason I could see spending that much on those parts. All of it is exorbitantly expensive for what it is. $64 for 8gb of DDR3? That's twice as expensive as it should be. $120 for a that CPU? Ugh. The worst offender is the GT 610 for $100, what a fright. 

[Spotty]

25 minutes ago, AngryBeaver said:

For the love of god get him a new GPU. You can get a 970 for less than $100 used now! Also a cheap SSD for the OS would make that thing feel like a rocket ship.

 

Whoops quoted wrong person.

Could even just run off integrated graphics from the APU and would probably still be an improvement over the GT 610...

[ThatBlockishWay]

Has he not already bought all the parts? These recommended builds are kinda useless without, especially since he just wanted psu recommendation

[brob]

Replace the psu with Cooler Master MasterWatt 550 or Corsair CX550 (2017). Both have the required 12V ATX power connector.

 

As @Spotty says, the integrated gpu is more powerful than the GT 610.

[BootyDustBandit]

49 minutes ago, AngryBeaver said:

For the love of god get him a new GPU. You can get a 970 for less than $100 used now! Also a cheap SSD for the OS would make that thing feel like a rocket ship.

 

Whoops quoted wrong person.

yeah yeah I know i ordered an rx 580 for him for christmas but I cant let him have it till christams, this is what he gets for planning a PC build without me.

[BootyDustBandit]

6 minutes ago, ThatBlockishWay said:

Has he not already bought all the parts? These recommended builds are kinda useless without, especially since he just wanted psu recommendation

thank you, thats what I thought.

[BootyDustBandit]

27 minutes ago, Spotty said:

Could even just run off integrated graphics from the APU and would probably still be an improvement over the GT 610...

i honestly forgot that this was an APU XD

 

36 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Ok, does your family live outside the US? Because that's the only reason I could see spending that much on those parts. All of it is exorbitantly expensive for what it is. $64 for 8gb of DDR3? That's twice as expensive as it should be. $120 for a that CPU? Ugh. The worst offender is the GT 610 for $100, what a fright. 

no we live in the US my brother just went into my spare parts pile because I said I would build him a PC, this is what I bought those parts for back in 2014.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, BootyDustBandit said:

no we live in the US my brother just went into my spare parts pile because I said I would build him a PC, this is what I bought those parts for back in 2014.

This is a lot better. (well, $100 for a 610 has never been a good price, but still). If you wanted to replace the power supply, even the cheap $25 EVGA B series would do better.

https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/outletpc/xDMwrH

[BootyDustBandit]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

This is a lot better. (well, $100 for a 610 has never been a good price, but still). If you wanted to replace the power supply, even the cheap $25 EVGA B series would do better.

https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/outletpc/xDMwrH

it was with a bundle of older 1GB-3GB GPUS

 

[BootyDustBandit]

9 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

This is a lot better. (well, $100 for a 610 has never been a good price, but still). If you wanted to replace the power supply, even the cheap $25 EVGA B series would do better.

https://pcpartpicker.com/mr/outletpc/xDMwrH

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - A10-6800K 4.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor	Purchased For $100.00
Motherboard	Gigabyte - GA-F2A78M-HD2 Micro ATX FM2+ Motherboard	Purchased For $50.00
Memory	Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR3-1333 Memory	Purchased For $65.99
Memory	Kingston - HyperX Fury Black 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR3-1333 Memory	$65.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	MSI - Radeon RX 570 8 GB ARMOR MK2 Video Card	Purchased For $159.99
Case	Rosewill - SCM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$19.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$69.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$551.95
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$531.95
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-11-29 11:20 EST-0500

How is that looking?

[BootyDustBandit]

10 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

well, $100 for a 610 has never been a good price, but still)

and also my brother picked these parts out while I was at work so it isn't like i would have put this in there anyways XD He just wants a dedicated GPU because it "looks cool"

[Fasauceome]

Just now, BootyDustBandit said:

 

How is that looking?

The 570 will boost performance a lot. I see that CPU being a bottleneck in some games because it's really old, but overall that build will have some much better performance.

[BootyDustBandit]

Just now, fasauceome said:

The 570 will boost performance a lot. I see that CPU being a bottleneck in some games because it's really old, but overall that build will have some much better performance.

also someone offered to borrow me a PSU with a 6 pin CPU connector but I don't remember that being a thing, would that work? at least to get it running till I get him stuff for christmas.

[BootyDustBandit]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

The 570 will boost performance a lot. I see that CPU being a bottleneck in some games because it's really old, but overall that build will have some much better performance.

i think he means its a 6 pin PCIE power connector maybe?

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, BootyDustBandit said:

i think he means its a 6 pin PCIE power connector maybe?

Yeah, no such thing as 6 pin CPU power.

[BootyDustBandit]

Just now, fasauceome said:

Yeah, no such thing as 6 pin CPU power.

maybe he means 6+2 pin PCIE? or just a 6 pin but i need 8 pin for that 570