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Laptop Spec, which one is more worth it?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

https://www.asus.com/Laptops/ROG-Zephyrus-S-GX531/Tech-Specs/

 

1. Asus ROG Zephyrus S GX531 GS Version

 - i7-8750H
 - GTX 1070 Max-Q 8GB GDDR5
 - Up to 8GB RAM
 - M.2 NVMe PCIe x2 512GB SSD

 - IPS Panel 144Hz 3ms

 

2. Asus ROG Zephyrus S GX531 GM Version

 - i7-8750H
 - GTX 1060 6GB GDDR5
 - Up to 8GB RAM
 - M.2 NVMe PCIe x4 1TB SSD

 - IPS Panel 144Hz 3ms

 

So I want to buy this laptop, first I thought that I want to buy the GS (GTX 1070 Max-Q 8GB) one, and then I saw that the storage device is different between GS and GM (GTX 1060 6GB) version.

The only difference between the two is its Graphic Card and Storage Device.


Reference:

1. GTX 1070 Max-Q vs GTX 1060 (Laptop)
https://www.notebookcheck.net/GeForce-GTX-1070-Max-Q-vs-GeForce-GTX-1060-Laptop_8008_7362.247598.0.html

 

2. M.2 NVMe PCIe x2 vs M.2 NVME PCIe x4
 - M.2 NVMe PCIe x2 speed up to 1050 MB/s
 - M.2 NVMe PCIe x4 speed up to 2100 MB/s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJCHx7mZEKo

 

I'm not really into gaming that much, but I still do play games like if it hooked me up, I can play all day.

For the planning, I want to use this laptop for Gaming and for Daily Use like Programming, Editing and etc.

 

I wanted to know, from your personal preferences, which one is more better, on the same price, better GPU/Storage?

And why?

 

Thank you :)

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Get the better gpu

You can't upgrade the gpu later on, but you can swap in more storage later on


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First: why you want to but this model?


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Asks worth.

Doesn't give prices.


Brilliant.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

Get the better gpu

You can't upgrade the gpu later on, but you can swap in more storage later on

Hm, if you put it that way, it make sense if I choose GPU over Storage.

But for 1TB NVMe PCIe x4, I need to add $600 more to the price.

 

3 minutes ago, GeneXiS_X said:

First: why you want to but this model?

I'm planning to not buy any laptop after this for like 5 years or more.

I'll use this laptop for working, playing when I wanted to or watching a video.

Basically, I want to use this laptop for my every day doing.

 

Now, why did I want to buy this model?

 

1. Temperature
From what I think, a durable laptop/device must have a good temperature management.

Here from Asus, they have this special Hinge, that can go up and make a small space for the extra air flow. Has a good or more extra fan slice than before.

I watched several video reviews about this model and found out that most of them have a good impression about this model temperature.

 

2. Panel

Aside from the temperature, this model has an IPS panel with a good color gamut (At least barely what I need).

About 99% sRGB and 71% aRGB

With 144Hz refresh rate, 3ms Response time, 1080p resolution and 290 nits.

And a thin bezel.

 

3. It's relatively small, light and strong

This laptop has a dimension of 360 x 268 x 15.75 mm.

Weight 2.1 kg or 4.6 lb

Covered with an aluminum-magnesium.

 

4. Not a gaming laptop like

Lastly, it's model is not like a lot of gaming laptop before.

 

And correct me if I'm wrong, as my knowledge only came from watching a lot of reviews.

 

11 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Asks worth.

Doesn't give prices.


Brilliant.

 

I don't know if this was needed, as I said "On the same price, which one is more worth it"

 

But if you need it maybe this can help.

For the pricing, Asus ROG Zephyrus S GX531GS is about $2000 and Asus ROG Zephyrus S GX531GM is about $1800

I don't know how much is it going to cost if I want to upgrade the GM version's storage into M.2 NVMe PCIe x4 1TB SSD

 

This laptop has yet to come out and it's still only available on the Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/Zephyrus-i7-8750H-Military-Grade-Customizable-GX531GS-AH76/dp/B07G5Z9H8R

 

Thank you :)

 

 

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16 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Better GPU FTW.

Pcie x2 is 1TB/s which is more than enough.

Remember SATA3 only 600GB/s?

True, if it's 1TB/s 😂

 

Isn't it only 600MB/s for SATA3?

So PCIe x2 will have about 1GBps++

 

Anyway thanks for the input. :)

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47 minutes ago, MichaelHT said:

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1. It has bad temps. Such thin chassis will suffer from high temps for sure. That lifting mechanism thing is a bit useful but mostly marketing

2. The panel is indeed excellent, but don't be fooled with the 3ms response times marketing

3. There are better options with similar weight and size

4. It looks like gaming laptop for me

 

Not to mention the awkward keyboard layout and terrible battery life. Looks like Asus has done a really good job in marketing so that people buy it

 

For normal users, a SATA SSD is more than enough. Make sure you get a good SSD model

 

Where are you from? Budget? Preferred max weight and minimum battery life?


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Yeah i mean 600MB/s.

Most PCI-E M2 can reach above 600MB/s, good enough.

The best one can top 3000MB/s (samsung 960), who needs that kinda speed?

And i'm still rocking a SATA SSD myself, still fast enough.

Not reluctant to fill in the empty m2 slot, because its fast enough for now.

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1 hour ago, GeneXiS_X said:

1. It has bad temps. Such thin chassis will suffer from high temps for sure. That lifting mechanism thing is a bit useful but mostly marketing

2. The panel is indeed excellent, but don't be fooled with the 3ms response times marketing

3. There are better options with similar weight and size

4. It looks like gaming laptop for me

 

Not to mention the awkward keyboard layout and terrible battery life. Looks like Asus has done a really good job in marketing so that people buy it

 

For normal users, a SATA SSD is more than enough. Make sure you get a good SSD model

 

Where are you from? Budget? Preferred max weight and minimum battery life?

1. Really? That's not the kind of information I get. I watch his review of this laptop. (Some of the reviews that I watched)

 

2. Yeah I know, For now I'm only looking at the srgb and argb for the panel, the response time doesn't matter much.

3. Can you tell me some recommendations? Which have a good temperature management, relatively small, light and strong? If you have some recommendation, I'll definitely check it out. :)

4. At least it's quite a different model from the previous gaming laptop which has all black and red with thick bezel and so on. :)

 

I don't mind the keyboard position, and yeah it doesn't have the greatest battery life, but I don't mind about it either, because I'll always charge my laptop.

 

This model only has an M.2 slot, so I guess M.2 NVMe PCIe x2 will be fine for now. (And based on the input from others)

 

I'm from Indonesia, my budget is probably at max $2000.

I haven't set any max weight, as I'm looking for a durable laptop for working as well as playing with it. So getting a light laptop is just another bonus.

Battery life with the minimum of 4 hours, I think that's fair. :)

 

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1 hour ago, SupaKomputa said:

Yeah i mean 600MB/s.

Most PCI-E M2 can reach above 600MB/s, good enough.

The best one can top 3000MB/s (samsung 960), who needs that kinda speed?

And i'm still rocking a SATA SSD myself, still fast enough.

Not reluctant to fill in the empty m2 slot, because its fast enough for now.

Ok, I'll take a note at that. :)

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I am pretty sure what @GeneXiS_X  meant is that the it cant possibly be as good as it seems, the only reason reviewers are so surprised isbecause it isnt as bad as thin and light laptops usually are, especially the ones that call them selves the thinnest laptops, thermals might be good, but performance might be throttled, 

even on my machine, which i have an overclocked 1070, i  dont really get thermal issues but i still got power throttled from time to time, 

So with a thin machine like that you can expect something like that to keep temperatures down, lower clock speeds and lower power draw to lower thermals 

 


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2 hours ago, MichaelHT said:

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1. The only flaw in Dave2D laptops reviews is thermal testing. 3DMark is only medium load. Not stressful enough. Also, he didn't mention the clock speeds.

3. No thin and light has good cooling. Just to see which is worse than others

 

Give me a range in weight so that I can pick the right options for you. Also, any links of online stores?


M.2 is enough. Perhaps @DocSwag can provide further explanation


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7 hours ago, Tamesh16 said:
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I am pretty sure what @GeneXiS_X  meant is that the it cant possibly be as good as it seems, the only reason reviewers are so surprised isbecause it isnt as bad as thin and light laptops usually are, especially the ones that call them selves the thinnest laptops, thermals might be good, but performance might be throttled, 

even on my machine, which i have an overclocked 1070, i  dont really get thermal issues but i still got power throttled from time to time, 

So with a thin machine like that you can expect something like that to keep temperatures down, lower clock speeds and lower power draw to lower thermals

 

 

 

 

5 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:
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1. The only flaw in Dave2D laptops reviews is thermal testing. 3DMark is only medium load. Not stressful enough. Also, he didn't mention the clock speeds.

3. No thin and light has good cooling. Just to see which is worse than others

 

Give me a range in weight so that I can pick the right options for you. Also, any links of online stores?


M.2 is enough. Perhaps @DocSwag can provide further explanation

 

 

Ok, I think I get the gist of using this type of thin and light model. I'll try to research more and ask those who already have this model about this thin thermal issue. :)

 

If I were to give a range for the weight, I think below 2.5kg is fine.

For online store, I only use Indonesian Online Store, but I think you can give me recommendation from any store and I'll just filter it out based on my preferences. :)

The point is, I'm looking for a durable laptop can I can also use for gaming that can last for about 5 years or more.

 

I choose this model because I think it fits that point, but after discussing here a bit, there are cases to be considered and I think there's still time to choose before this model came out.

 

As for the Storage Device, I think, going with M.2 NVMe PCIe x2 512GB is fine for now.

 

Thank you. :)

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32 minutes ago, MichaelHT said:

I only use Indonesian Online Store

Any links for that?

32 minutes ago, MichaelHT said:

I'm looking for a durable laptop can I can also use for gaming that can last for about 5 years or more.

If you want best durability: premium business laptops

 

No gaming laptop can handle 5 years of games (demanding titles)


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Brother's Laptop - Aspire 5

Intel Core i5 8250U 1.6-3.4GHZ 4GB+4GB DDR4 2400MHZ RAM WD 1TB HDD+Samsung 850 EVO M.2 250GB Nvidia MX150 2GB

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8 hours ago, GeneXiS_X said:

Any links for that?

If you want best durability: premium business laptops

 

No gaming laptop can handle 5 years of games (demanding titles)

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You can use http://www.tokopedia.com, http://www.bukalapak.com , http://www.lazada.co.id, or even http://www.amazon.com

 

Okay, will be waiting for your recommendation, I don't really mind the weight, you can recommend me any laptop that you think will suit me, I can make some tolerance if it's within most of my preferences.

 

Btw I'll be keeping my contact with this Reviewer that has Asus Zephyrus S GX531GS, he's called OWNorDisown. And have been answering every user comment on his channel.

He is been testing for 5 days currently, and I got this answer yesterday.

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Thanks! The cooling works really well, no need to undervolt. For those that want a laptop that does not need any tweaking this will do the business. Done most of my tests. Just need to finish up some video shots comparing it against the Razer 15.

So I think I'll try to wait a bit more for this model's review. :) 

 

And, can I ask something that is out of this specification topic?
What is the maximum safe temperature for most of the laptop?

Is it safe to play with 86 degree Celcius? I do need some basics for this kind of thing. 😅

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11 hours ago, MichaelHT said:

OWNorDisown

His laptop reviews aren't particular good in thermal testing either. Again, many ppl tend to forget to check clock speeds.

11 hours ago, MichaelHT said:

And, can I ask something that is out of this specification topic?
What is the maximum safe temperature for most of the laptop?

Is it safe to play with 86 degree Celcius? I do need some basics for this kind of thing. 😅

You may see some throttling when the CPU goes past 90C and GPU (Pascal) goes past 74C. However, this doesn't mean that 86C is good. Remember, higher temps kill hardware faster. So you might want the temps to be as low as possible

 

So you don't mind the weight? I'll post the options later


Laptop Reviews:

Laptop Specs:

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My Laptop - Legion Y530

Intel Core i5 8300H 2.3-4.0GHZ Samsung 8GB DDR4 2666MHZ RAM SC Samsung PM981 NVMe 256GB SSD+Seagate ST1000LM035 1TB 5400RPM HDD (spare) Nvidia GTX1050TI 2GB 144Hz LG IPS panel

 

Brother's Laptop - Aspire 5

Intel Core i5 8250U 1.6-3.4GHZ 4GB+4GB DDR4 2400MHZ RAM WD 1TB HDD+Samsung 850 EVO M.2 250GB Nvidia MX150 2GB

My Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (Snapdragon 625, 3GB RAM, 32GB ROM)

 

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