April 27, 2018 - The WAN Show Document

[LinusTech]

 

 

https://soundcloud.com/thewanshow/another-one-bites-the-dust-wan-show-apr27-2018

 

Intel's 10nm Broken, Delayed Until 2019

Source 1: Sampsy https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/921127-intel-loses-manufacturing-edge-with-10nm-delayed-to-2019/

Source 2: https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-cpu-10nm-earnings-amd,36967.html

 

• During its quarterly earnings call on Thursday, Intel revealed unveiled serious production problems with its 10nm process.

• Intel announced that it is shipping yet more 14nm iterations this year.

  • Whiskey Lake processors for the desktop

  • Cascade Lake Xeons for the data center.

• the company is shipping Cannon Lake in low volume, but the company hasn't pointed to specific customers or products

  • Intel's multi-patterning process is generating too many yield-reducing defects to produce 10nm cost-effectively.

• Intel originally promised it would deliver the 10nm process in 2015.

  • After several delays, the company assured that it would deliver 10nm processors to market in 2017.

  • That was further refined to the second half of 2018

  • Now delayed to an unspecified time in 2019

• Meanwhile,competitors like TSMC are beginning high volume manufacturing of 7nm alternatives.

  • semiconductor node naming conventions aren't based on traditional measurements, so TSMC's 7nm isn't entirely on par with Intel's 10nm process.

• Intel has sold processors based on the underlying Skylake microarchitecture since 2015, and it's been stuck at the 14nm process since 2014.

• Krzanich explained that the company "bit off a little too much on this thing" by increasing 10nm density 2.7X over the 14nm node.

  • Intel increased density by only 2.4X when it moved to 14nm.

  • The industry average for density improvements is only 1.5-2X per node transition.

  • Intel has now revised its density target back to 2.4X for the transition to the 7nm node.

 

Rumour: Apple to move touch digitizer, ditch 3D touch

Source 1: OhYou_ https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/921268-apple-to-move-touch-digitizer-to-the-phones-glass/

Source 2: https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3021021/iphone-x2-apples-61in-iphone-will-reportedly-ditch-3d-touch

 

• Apples upcoming entry-level 6.1” iPhone will use a new technology called 'Cover Glass Sensor' (CGS) that will see the handset's touch control module relocated from the display panel to the actual glass.

• CGS glass will reportedly make for a lighter and more shock resistant display, but will cost 26 per touch panel, compared to $23 for current technology

• To offset the cost of the new display tech, Apple will get rid of the 3D Touch functionality on the 6.1in iPhone.

  • However, it'll remain intact on Apple's 5.8in and 6.5in OLED iPhones

  • These might be the last two iPhones to offer the functionality, though, as Apple plans to incorporate the CGS tech into future iPhones OLED models starting in 2019

 

Jim Keller joins Intel

Source 1: NumLock21 https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/920762-jim-keller-joins-intel/

Source 2: https://wccftech.com/former-amd-zen-athlon64-cpu-architect-jim-keller-joins-intel/

 

• AMD’s former CPU architect and current head of AI hardware at Tesla is reportedly leaving to join Intel.

• Jim Keller played key roles in developing the K7 and K8 CPU cores.

  • K7 was the original Athlon, the first CPU to hit 1GHz and the first CPU to really challenge Intel

• Keller will join Intel as a senior vice president, leading the company’s silicon engineering, which encompasses system-on-chip development and integration.

• Keller spent a multi-year stint at Apple between his contributions to the K8 design and coming back to lead the engineering efforts on AMD’s latest CPU microarchitecture, Zen in 2012.

  • At Apple he led the design team to build the company’s class leading mobile processors.

  • In 2015 he left AMD to join Tesla, where he’s been leading the company’s AI chip design teams to date.

Windows 10 Redstone 5 Gets Telephony APIs, hinting at Surface Phone(?)

Source 1: AluminiumTech https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/921271-windows-10-redstone-5-gets-telephony-apis-hinting-at-surface-phone/

Source 2: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/04/new-phone-apis-in-windows-renews-speculation-about-the-mythical-surface-phone/

 

• Windows 10 build 17650—a preview of Redstone 5, the next Windows update after the delayed April update—includes some telephony APIs.

• The new APIs cover support for a range of typical phone features:

  • dialing numbers and contacts, blocking withheld numbers, support for Bluetooth headsets and speakerphone mode, etc

  • There also looks to be some kind of video-calling support, suggesting support for 3G or LTE video calling.

• Is this a strong indicator that a Surface Phone is on the way?

• Or will calling be added to LTE-equipped Windows laptops?

 

Microsoft rolls out Xbox April Update

Source 1: aluminiumTech https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/921257-microsoft-rolls-out-xbox-april-update-with-freesync-support-and-1440p-support/

Source 2: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12687/microsoft-rolls-out-xbox-april-update-freesync-and-more

 

• Xbox One will support FreeSync and FreeSync 2 across the entire device lineup – including the original Xbox One

  • You’ll of course need a FreeSync certified display, and it will need to support FreeSync over HDMI

• Added support for the 2560x1440 display resolution on both the Xbox One X and Xbox One S.

  • S only gets media at this resolution, X gets gaming

• support for Auto Low-Latency Mode, which will tell your television when you’re playing a game so it can switch the display mode

• Updated the Mixer streaming service to include the ability to share control of a game with a user on Mixer.com, where a virtual controller will allow them to input commands, or they can plug in an Xbox controller to their PC to control it that way.

  • Xbox now lets you share screenshots and clips directly to Twitter as well, through the Broadcasting and Capture tab

• ability to selectively balance game audio against background music within the Guide, so if you want your streaming music louder or softer, it’s much easier to adjust on the fly

• audio has also been updated on the dashboard itself to support spatial audio

 

Man Jailed For Making "Counterfeit" Windows Restore Disks

Source 1: kenblu24 https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/921071-prison-for-making-counterfeit-windows-restore-disks/

Source 2: https://www.polygon.com/windows/2018/4/25/17280178/eric-lundgren-windows-restore-disks-microsoft-prison

 

• A California man is headed for a 15-month stay in federal prison over “restore CDs”: disks that reinstall Microsoft’s Windows operating system after a failure

• Eric Lundgren, 33, was found to have infringed Microsoft’s intellectual property by $700,000 for ordering and importing the restore disks

  • Such disks may only be used on computers that already have a license for the Windows operating system

  • Lundgren had 28,000 of these disks made and shipped to Florida, where he and a broker planned to sell them to computer repair shops for about 25 cents each.

• Lundgren, an activist against “e-waste,” saw the disks as a way to keep consumers from tossing old computers when they believed them to be broken.

• U.S. customs agents, seized a shipment of the disks, then got the Florida broker to flip on Lundgren, catching him in a conspiracy where all of $3,400 was transacted.

• Both got indicted on a charge of conspiracy to traffic counterfeit goods and criminal copyright infringement,

  • The snitch got off with a six-month home-arrest sentence for his cooperation.

• neither Microsoft nor any other computer manufacturers sell any restore disks.

  • Microsoft’s lawyer argued to the court that the sales of the disks “displaced Microsoft’s potential sales of genuine operating systems,”

Finland Classifies Esports as Traditional Sport

Source 1: SC2Mitch https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/921150-finlands-government-now-classifies-esports-as-a-traditional-sport/

Source 2: https://news.unikrn.com/article/finland-governement-recognizes-esports-sports

 

• The Finnish office of European Affairs, Culture and Sport has announced that the Federation of Finnish Electronic Sports will be classified as a charitable organization by the government, giving it classification as a traditional sport, as well as funding youth programs for Finland's youth.

• "Esports is now being treated as a traditional sport in an administrative sense, though we don't want to outweigh the importance of traditional sports."

• If classified as sports, governments have processes in place to help players traveling to their country for events obtain visas, help teams obtain government funding if they are based in that country, and tax benefits for athletes.

 

Anandtech's Initial remarks about their unusual Ryzen 2 benchmarks

Source 1: Lathlaer https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/920425-anandtechs-initial-remarks-about-their-unusual-ryzen-2-benchmarks/

Source 2: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12678/a-timely-discovery-examining-amd-2nd-gen-ryzen-results

 

• Due to the tight deadlines, Anandtech pushed both our CPU and gaming tests for their Ryzen 2 review without as much formal analysis as they typically like to do.

• It quickly became clear that some of their results were not aligned with those from other media.

• Initially they thought this was as a result of the Spectre and Meltdown updates, as they were one of the media outlets to test under the new standard.

• Nonetheless, they decided to take an extensive internal audit of their testing and found their inconsistencies were due to High Precision Event Timer (HPET) peculiarities.

• Moving forward, Anandtech will do all future CPU testing with HPET force-enabled

• They will also re-test all of the processors used in the Ryzen 2000-series review.

  • This goes for both the review and for Bench.

 

Amazing: AI Reconstructs Photos with Realistic Results

Source 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg0F5JjKmhA

Source 2: https://news.developer.nvidia.com/new-ai-imaging-technique-reconstructs-photos-with-realistic-results/?ncid=nv-twi-37107

 

• Researchers from NVIDIA have introduced a state-of-the-art deep learning method that can edit images or reconstruct a corrupted image- one that has holes or is missing pixels.

• “image inpainting”, could be implemented in photo editing software to remove unwanted content, filling it with a realistic computer-generated alternative.

• “Our model can robustly handle holes of any shape, size, location, or distance from the image border”

 

Battery-free HD Video Streaming

Source 1: https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/19/technique-to-beam-hd-video-with-99-percent-less-power-could-sharpen-the-eyes-of-smart-homes/

Source 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=97&v=0H9MHixUVko

 

• Cameras found in smart homes or wearables need to transmit HD video, but it takes a lot of power to process that video and then transmit the encoded data over Wi-Fi.

• Researchers at the University of Washington are using a technique called Backscatter to decouple image sensors from their power-hungry antennae

  • A signal is sent out from one source, say a router or phone, and another antenna essentially reflects that signal, but modifies it.

• In the end, a full-color HD signal at 60FPS can be sent with less than a watt of power, and a more modest but still very useful signal — say, 720p at 10FPS — can be sent for under 80 microwatts.

• there’s no reason their technique for efficient, quick backscatter transmission couldn’t be used for non-video data.

 

AMD's heatsink warranty ‘Nontroversy’ leads to update

Source 1: PopReference https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/920591-amds-heatsink-warranty-nontroversy-leads-to-update/?tab=comments#comment-11281037

Source 2:

https://support.amd.com/en-us/search/faq/147

Source 3: https://www.pcper.com/news/Processors/AMD-Clarifies-Warranty-Terms-Ryzen-CPU-use-Third-Party-Coolers?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

 

• This week a Reddit user found a support page on AMD's website which stated that use of any other "heatsink/fan" than the included one with AMD "Processor-in-Box" products would invalidate their warranty.

• This caused some concern from owners and potential purchasers of Ryzen CPUs.

  • How would AMD be able to tell if you were using a third-party cooler?

  • What about the Ryzen 1000 series SKUs that didn't come with coolers?

• As it turns out, this was an older support page that does not accurately reflect the warranty of modern AMD processors. AMD has since updated the warranty page to provide clarification.

• Now, the page reads that the warranty shall be null and void if the processor "is used with any heatsink/fan (HSF) that does not support operation of the AMD processor in conformance with AMD’s publicly available specifications."

 

Taiwan Graphics Card makers to see shipments plunge 40% in April

Source 1: https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180425PD205.html

Source 2: https://www.pcgamesn.com/graphics-card-shipments-40-percent-down

 

• Taiwan-based graphics card makers including Gigabyte Technology, MSI and TUL are expected to see their shipments for April plunge over 40% compared to last month, as many clients have suspended taking shipments in response to the drastic slowdown in demand for cryptocurrency mining machines

• Many mining farm operators are awaiting the rollout of Ethereum mining machines by China's Bitmain in the third quarter of 2018.

 

Rumour: Apple working on 8K times 2 VR headset

Source 1: https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-is-working-on-an-ar-augmented-reality-vr-virtual-reality-headset-powered-by-a-wireless-wigig-hub/?ftag=COS-05-10aaa0b&linkId=51043864

Source 2:

 

• Apple is reportedly working on an AR and VR capable headset, codenamed T288, slated for release in 2020.

• Plans so far call for:

  • an 8K display for each eye

  • A headset that would be untethered from a computer or smartphone.

  • It would connect to a dedicated box using a high-speed, short-range wireless technology

  • The box would be powered by a custom Apple processor more powerful than anything currently available,

  • The box would act as the brain for the headset. In its current state, the box resembles a PC tower, but it won't be an actual Mac computer.

  • users wouldn't have to install special cameras in a room to detect their location. Everything would be built into Apple's headset and box

 

Total Meltdown

Source 1: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/it-must-patch-against-total-meltdown-now-the-source-code-is-on-github/

Source 2:

 

• The source code for Total Meltdown, a vulnerability created when Microsoft tried to patch the initial Meltdown flaw, is now available on GitHub.

• it allows "any process to access and modify page table entries."

[Tech_Dreamer]

ferhst. #1

[Guest]

If this global trend of E-Sports being an athletic sport keeps up I might the the first athlete to die of obstructive coronary heart disease. 

[Stefan Payne]

I have a question about Floatplane:
What are your plans for that?
What Creators do you want?

Do you want it to be only Tech Stuff??

 

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Intel's 10nm Broken, Delayed Until 2019

You mentioned that you don't remember when AMD was ahead of Intel. But I think I do. 

It might have been the 180nm (0,18µ at the time) copper process, that was used with the K6-2+ and K6-3+ at the time, later for the K7 (first ones were in 250nm).

 

Somewhere around that time, when AMD still had their fabs, they were able to mach Intel for a time, around the Hight of the K7.

 

 

What you said about the Market and Intel:
In the past, when AMD was ahead, the Market didn't shift that much, sadly.

 

It was the case in the early 2000s, up until 2006 (Core 2 Duo) and it didn't change that much - but that's also the time where Intel was fined by almost every FTC like thing around the Wold (1,07 Billion Euros in Europe for example)...

 

And later, when AMD had the Phenom II, wich was pretty close to the Core 2, especially in multi Threaded applications, people didn't really buy AMD and went for Intel instead...

 

Though one had to admit that they totally messed up their 65nm production line (wich the first Phenom used)...

PS: Imagine the AMD FX came a year or two earlier...

Not in 2012 but in 2010, maybe 11...

 

PPS:
I had a couple of RAMBUS systems.

S423 P4T

S478 P4T533.

And dual Socke 603 with an RDRAM Rizer and 1,5GiB at the time (I think).

And even an ASUS P3C (i820 for Slot1!!)

 

But you can't give that shit to anyone today - don't forget the CRIMM!!

But 170MHz FSB on that P3C - no problem whatsoever, even without RAM Overclocking...

 

 

as for AMD CPUs:
K5 was pretty good actually. Nothing wrong with it, however, the usual Clockrate problems. That was the main problem, that the clockrate was that low. And the K5 already had a P-Rating, later ones were like 100MHz with a PR133 Rating.
The K6 had a not so stellar FPU - wich was needed at the Time for games and not even an AMD Design! 

It was a modified NexGen NX686...

[MikeSK]

 

 

The following wiki link more closely resembles my understanding of Rambus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rambus

[Egg-Roll]

Linus, MS went after the guy for the full value of the OS, the courts came to a value of $700,000.

 

Also @LinusTech using the 200km/h as a metaphor after this week in Toronto is a very poor decision as a Canadian. (also using the metaphor with the title of the wan show too)

Care to explain your logic to the witnesses, victims and the families of, as to why someone speeding in a school zone shouldn't see jail time? Maybe 3 of them would have died if the van was only doing city speed. Not to mention this is coming from a parent who has kids young enough that SPEEDING should be a concern.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/van-attack-fund-1.4638102

https://globalnews.ca/news/4170272/toronto-van-attacker-new-video-sidewalk/ (the video here shows the van speeding up), the street should have a shit load of cameras, be happy we don't get to see what the cops do, or the people who witnessed it.

 

Also https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/ferrari-driver-clocked-at-210-km-h-dons-mask-outside-b-c-courthouse-1.3901294 So the punishment could be worst.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/opp-clocks-16-year-old-motorcyclist-at-192-km-h

https://www.cp24.com/news/officer-teaching-students-about-speeding-clocks-markham-teen-at-87-km-h-over-speed-limit-1.3901922

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/west-island-young-driver-caught-doing-116-km-h-in-50-zone

So yes in some cases esp the one you stated should carry a imprisonment time along with fines and loss of license, for life. If you want to drive your vehicle w/o a care for others safety around you, maybe you should be charged as tho your wielding a weapon with the intent on using it?

[MadDuke]

Hi

This is my breaker in Croatia (building is from 1936 so...)

 

  But, re-modelling so getting rid of it in the next 6 months.  

 

Good thing is. If I wanted to make a mining factory. All is well cause we don't have "any" limit on the electricity.  

At least. Wifi is stable on 100 megabit internet  hehehehe

 

On global. Internet speed is great unless you have to use ADSL. In that case you will have anything between 10 megabit and optimistic 30 megabit   

[MattMatt]

7 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

Linus, MS went after the guy for the full value of the OS, the courts came to a value of $700,000.

 

Also @LinusTech using the 200km/h as a metaphor after this week in Toronto is a very poor decision as a Canadian. (also using the metaphor with the title of the wan show too)

Care to explain your logic to the witnesses, victims and the families of, as to why someone speeding in a school zone shouldn't see jail time? Maybe 3 of them would have died if the van was only doing city speed. Not to mention this is coming from a parent who has kids young enough that SPEEDING should be a concern.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/van-attack-fund-1.4638102

https://globalnews.ca/news/4170272/toronto-van-attacker-new-video-sidewalk/ (the video here shows the van speeding up), the street should have a shit load of cameras, be happy we don't get to see what the cops do, or the people who witnessed it.

 

Also https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/ferrari-driver-clocked-at-210-km-h-dons-mask-outside-b-c-courthouse-1.3901294 So the punishment could be worst.

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/opp-clocks-16-year-old-motorcyclist-at-192-km-h

https://www.cp24.com/news/officer-teaching-students-about-speeding-clocks-markham-teen-at-87-km-h-over-speed-limit-1.3901922

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/west-island-young-driver-caught-doing-116-km-h-in-50-zone

So yes in some cases esp the one you stated should carry a imprisonment time along with fines and loss of license, for life. If you want to drive your vehicle w/o a care for others safety around you, maybe you should be charged as tho your wielding a weapon with the intent on using it?

I think you've misunderstood Linus's perspective. In all the evidence you've shown, the drivers were caught speeding, and those who didn't hurt any one despite going ridiculous speeds where simply given fines and/or bans. Linus is not saying that these people shouldn't be getting jail time. He (and I) think it's ridiculous that someone selling Microsoft repair disks with the best of intentions gets a lengthy jail sentence yet someone endangering people's lives does not. The punishments aren't equally fitting for the crimes.

[Egg-Roll]

1 hour ago, MattMatt said:

I think you've misunderstood Linus's perspective. In all the evidence you've shown, the drivers were caught speeding, and those who didn't hurt any one despite going ridiculous speeds where simply given fines and/or bans. Linus is not saying that these people shouldn't be getting jail time. He (and I) think it's ridiculous that someone selling Microsoft repair disks with the best of intentions gets a lengthy jail sentence yet someone endangering people's lives does not. The punishments aren't equally fitting for the crimes.

What he should have used was petty theft or insider trading which is on a similar level. The issue is Linus's wording actually put peoples lives at risk or a high potential of it, all 4 speeding cases that I listed while were not in school zones however at least one based on speed is likely in a housing community. I for one wouldn't want someone racing down a street where kids are (in or outside) at 200 km/h w/o some sort of heavy penalty.

 

I think 15 months is a reasonable time, it's not devastatingly long but nor is it 2 years, sure it could have been 6 months or 1 year. However associating a person who "stole" based on a set number of discs with a driver who even in a smart car at the time a bunch of school kids are leaving and possibly crossing the road is a horrible comparision to do, even if no school kids or it was during a summer day and no one was around it's still a bad thing to compare because most schools are near parks homes or other community places that still could have kids. If said person was to lose control of their vehicle it would be like a missile possibly going into a house.

 

Basically Linus compared

This:

 

To this:

 

 

Also are you implying that Linus thinks it's ok to speed at a high rate of speed in a school zone as long as you don't get caught? Also in one case they are still going threw the system even tho it's been already over a year, so the guy still can lose his license or possibly jail time or whatever the courts decide.

 

To me the comparison was done in poor taste mostly because Linus should have known better to not of made such an example after the events that have happened this week. It was careless of him, busy or not because chances are it was on the news in BC as well.

[MadDuke]

42 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

what are those tubes on the right? o_o

It's a casing. You put a fuse inside.  That's where "blow a fuse" comes from. Not, toggle the switch on a fuse back later hehe

Once you have a short circuit it will blow a fuse, you unscrew the tube part. Put a new fuse inside and screw it back in place.  In my case. I have 4 x 10A(so 2.3kW)  fuses and 1x16A(3.68kW kitchen) fuse.   

The missing ones are from high powered devices we no longer use (water tank, infrared heating lamp in the bathroom...) since switching to gas 20 years ago.  

[MadDuke]

1 hour ago, Egg-Roll said:

What he should have used was petty theft or insider trading which is on a similar level. The issue is Linus's wording actually put peoples lives at risk or a high potential of it, all 4 speeding cases that I listed while were not in school zones however at least one based on speed is likely in a housing community. I for one wouldn't want someone racing down a street where kids are (in or outside) at 200 km/h w/o some sort of heavy penalty.

 

I think 15 months is a reasonable time, it's not devastatingly long but nor is it 2 years, sure it could have been 6 months or 1 year. However associating a person who "stole" based on a set number of discs with a driver who even in a smart car at the time a bunch of school kids are leaving and possibly crossing the road is a horrible comparision to do, even if no school kids or it was during a summer day and no one was around it's still a bad thing to compare because most schools are near parks homes or other community places that still could have kids. If said person was to lose control of their vehicle it would be like a missile possibly going into a house.

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1 hour ago, Egg-Roll said:

 

Also are you implying that Linus thinks it's ok to speed at a high rate of speed in a school zone as long as you don't get caught? Also in one case they are still going threw the system even tho it's been already over a year, so the guy still can lose his license or possibly jail time or whatever the courts decide.

 

To me the comparison was done in poor taste mostly because Linus should have known better to not of made such an example after the events that have happened this week. It was careless of him, busy or not because chances are it was on the news in BC as well.

 

It's a live show.  Don't get your panties in the bunch.  After all. People mostly always revert to "car analogies" in the "heat of the moment" which NEVER work, but if you "read it" with understanding just as people are saying that it's not that important to follow the letter of the law as much as the spirit of the law. All is great. 

 

On a personal note. I will never understand people who are OK to taking 15 months of someones life (which is priceless) because of something like this.  15 months is huge.  

[SpaceGhostC2C]

12 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

 

You mentioned that you don't remember when AMD was ahead of Intel. But I think I do. 

It might have been the 180nm (0,18µ at the time) copper process, that was used with the K6-2+ and K6-3+ at the time, later for the K7 (first ones were in 250nm).

 

Somewhere around that time, when AMD still had their fabs, they were able to mach Intel for a time, around the Hight of the K7.

 

You don't need to go that far back. Core 2 and X58 were 45nm, same as Phenom II, and Sandy Bridge was 32nm, same as Bulldozer. In fact, it wasn't until Ivy Bridge (22nm) vs Piledriver (32nm) that there started to be a gap, which continued to widen as Skylake moved to 14nm while Excavator was still on 28nm.

So when Linus said 20 years, he meant 5 years (the time between IB and Zen). But I guess after all the "old Linus" jokes he had to try to appear younger than he is  

 

 

[Egg-Roll]

1 hour ago, Mad_Duke said:

It's a live show.  Don't get your panties in the bunch.  After all. People mostly always revert to "car analogies" in the "heat of the moment" which NEVER work, but if you "read it" with understanding just as people are saying that it's not that important to follow the letter of the law as much as the spirit of the law. All is great. 

 

On a personal note. I will never understand people who are OK to taking 15 months of someones life (which is priceless) because of something like this.  15 months is huge.  

My main issue is the fact he used it within the same week as a event as such happened, the event was big enough it made it to the stateside as well. So he should have known better, regardless live or not. The title also doesn't work with those words and said events either, imagine one of the victims or families of or possibly worst someone who witnessed it (and revisioning it) getting hold of this video where Linus compares a person getting 15 months with someone who could literally remove lives off this planet. Like I said there are far better options that would have taken no longer to of thought of. Also as stated all of his words came from a parent as well where speed should be a concern in a school zone.

 

As for the spirit of the law, the law has no spirit, it's a bunch of words that you are expected to abide by, simple. If you follow them you are safe from prosecution, if you break them you can face the punishments outlined according to the words you broke.  For example many drivers think they have the full right of way with a choice of lanes with a left turn advance in a 2+ lane road (turning onto), most parts in North America this is not true. The fact is the law usually states you have to enter the most left lane when turning left, the law also states the person turning right if/when safe to do so has to go esp if a car is behind them because that then is seen as holding up traffic. So the car turning right has to either risk getting hit by the idiot turning left illegally going into the right lane or possibly get charged with holding up traffic, most choose the later but then usually endangered pedestrians because they see the green light and clear intersection then just go, which could also have a failure to yield charge too. Life isn't easy, but saying the law has spirit is idiotic, don't like the laws you live under? Leave.

 

Simple, don't want to do the time don't do the crime. The guy knowingly copied (or ordered, whatever the case may be) protected software onto discs with the intent to sell, regardless of keys or not or the price he was going to sell them at those are factors that are hard to prove w/o physical evidence(none given). I personally don't think 15 months will destroy his life, unless he does something "stupid" in prison and gets himself killed. I do know one thing tho his career in anything software related is over including e-waste, because he is now seen as untrustworthy. Regardless of intent, the internet has a million different solutions on his so called solution, some legal some not, but that isn't his responsibility, he got caught so now he gets to do the time.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

11 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

 

Care to explain your logic to the witnesses, victims and the families of, as to why someone speeding in a school zone shouldn't see jail time? Maybe 3 of them would have died if the van was only doing city speed. Not to mention this is coming from a parent who has kids young enough that SPEEDING should be a concern.

You don't seem to understand it, even though other people have explained it to you, so let's try one last time: you are basically agreeing with Linus. You say speeding is dangerous. He said speeding is dangerous. He stated that, as it is, you don't get 15 months of jail for speeding if the potential consequences don't materialize. This guy is getting 15 months for what seems to be a much lesser offense. 

In other words, he's not presenting speeding as a minor thing, he's presenting speeding as something worse that gets a lesser punishment with current laws.

[Egg-Roll]

1 hour ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

You don't seem to understand it, even though other people have explained it to you, so let's try one last time: you are basically agreeing with Linus. You say speeding is dangerous. He said speeding is dangerous. He stated that, as it is, you don't get 15 months of jail for speeding if the potential consequences don't materialize. This guy is getting 15 months for what seems to be a much lesser offense. 

In other words, he's not presenting speeding as a minor thing, he's presenting speeding as something worse that gets a lesser punishment with current laws.

I understand what he's trying to convey, but regardless due to events in the past week it should not have been done and avoided.

 

Also like I just said the law is the law and that's what happened, and the guy accepted it. Should he have gotten less? Maybe but like I said 6-12 months I would have expected something along these lines to have gotten, which is 3-9 months longer. Months not years, if we were talking years I would agree, but we aren't

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That qualified Lundgren for 15 months in the joint and a $50,000 fine

You want messed up jail times go watch the big house from the history channel, there's people in for life for doing a few too many stupid things that didn't physically harm anyone, or at least what they are admitting to. I'm also sure everyone here can find someone getting years in prison for something stupid yet a DUI gets away with nothing in comparison for sentencing.

 

It's also not like the judge threw the book at the guy saying how dare you do that here's X months w/o even looking into the law, the courts actually halted MS and fixed it just imagine his fine and time in jail if they didn't do that... I also think speeding laws esp in community areas are way too lax, and if kids are present you should be jailed after a speed threshold along with or at least a loss of a license for life.

[HimymCZe]

3 hours ago, VegetableStu said:

what are those tubes on the right? o_o

This. ..., but the old way.

Old fuse was a ceramic cylinder containing thin wire, that would burn down if you try to pull a lot of A.
New circuit breakers create a strong magnetic field which break the circuit upon trying to pull a lot of A.

... same thing.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

3 hours ago, Egg-Roll said:

I understand what he's trying to convey, but regardless due to events in the past week it should not have been done and avoided.ç

What? Are you trying to find a reason to be offended? Come to think about it, weren't you also supporting the idea that the tampon/pad video was inappropriate?

I'm starting to wonder if taking offense is what you do for a living...

[JoostinOnline]

I'm sad Max is leaving.  She seemed like a really nice person, and I liked her voice.  I know that sounds weird, but voices affect me a lot.  I can love or hate a video just based on how the person sounds.  It's why I listen to Bob Ross videos (I rarely actually watch them) a lot.

 

She was rarely in anything, but her voice was calming.  One of the LMG members (I won't say whom because I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings) stresses me out.

 

Edit: I probably just weirded everyone out.

[Egg-Roll]

1 hour ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

What? Are you trying to find a reason to be offended? Come to think about it, weren't you also supporting the idea that the tampon/pad video was inappropriate?

I'm starting to wonder if taking offense is what you do for a living...

No, it's called common sense, esp if he listened to the news at all. If I was offended 24/7 by him or everyone I would pick Linus apart for everything he says and does, now wouldn't I?

 

He should have known better and chose a different example, nothing more nothing less.

[Bouzoo]

Don't worry Max, almost everyone in Croatia has Wi-Fi so you're good if you get to a more populated area. I don't even want to ask where you're going to think that. Seriously, it has to be a god forsaken place. 

Also the old breaker in the capital is a usual sight as well. It works. I have one. 

[Canada EH]

15 months in prison in the usa, so out in 1 year. Hope its not a rough penal system, like Cali.

While the other perp got off with easy peasy house arrest for ratting out his biz partner, house arrest can be scammed so easily its not even funny. plus depends on the P.O.

 

 

[KhandakeF]

Sorry for interrupting, but do you guys know which WAN show had that amazing sponser lineup of ifixit, squarespace, and freshbooks and Linus and Luke chained all of them together?

[DoctorWho1975]

In relation to the Intel shenanigans. In an MMO I play there is someone on a 6th gen i5 who is crashing six ways from Sunday. Add on crashes, game crashes, stream crashes.. its bad. I've been trying to get them to see the ways of Ryzen but they just will not consider it even though Ryzen 1700 is PERFECT for what they do. Instead they will spend a lot more on the latest Intel sack of shit, stuck with 4 cores/8 threads and may have an improved experience but still will have issues. I think it's just because they have indoctrinated in the Intel religion, they can't fathom someone other then Intel could actually put out a superior multi-tasking product at far cheaper prices.

[DoctorWho1975]

To punctuate the absurdity of Lundgren's prison time I present the case of Akai Gurley.. who was shot by a cop in New York City. Cop was convicted of 5 counts including manslaughter and criminally negligent homicide. The cops did not offer assistance, Gurley's girlfriend did the CPR. The cop got N O jailtime. NONE. NADA. ZIP. ZILCH. Merely probation and community service. So a cop killing a citizen, being convicted of crimes that can carry 15 years in prison is no jail time meanwhile infringing upon IP carries a year and a half in jail.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Akai_Gurley

[Dakkomakko]

I want to see the meme! Can anyone find it for me?