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I bought into the 4k hype and watched Thor Ragnorok on Blu ray the other day. It looked pretty amazing but I couldn't help but notice all that detail made every scene look too real. I found it so easy to tell that these were actors in a studio in front of a green screen, I could see which parts of the scene were real and which parts were CGI. The actors all looked like they were actors wearing costumes, as opposed to actual believable characters. Don't get me wrong the CGI was really impressive but I don't remember watching DVDs back in the day and thinking 'Well I can see the aliasing on those edges and these transitions between real scenery and CGI scenery are awful'. 

 

This wasn't the soap opera effect as I had the motion option turned off.

What do you guys think? Do I need to try some films with less CGI?

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1 minute ago, Blebekblebek said:

So which part of your description makes 4k sucks?

maybe read again?

 

 

Personally i really like 4k and yes, it sometimes gives a "too real"-effect but i don't watch too close to see every little detail and difference from CGI to RL. I tend to enjoy the movie instead, lol.

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2 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

maybe read again?

 

 

Personally i really like 4k and yes, it sometimes gives a "too real"-effect but i don't watch too close to see every little detail and difference from CGI to RL. I tend to enjoy the movie instead, lol.

which one?

 

This one " It looked pretty amazing but I couldn't help but notice all that detail made every scene look too real "

 

This make it sucks?

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1 minute ago, Blebekblebek said:

which one?

This one " It looked pretty amazing but I couldn't help but notice all that detail made every scene look too real "

This make it sucks?

It breaks the illusion. 'Too real' might not be the correct description--maybe uncanny or distracting. 

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3 minutes ago, Blebekblebek said:

which one?

 

This one " It looked pretty amazing but I couldn't help but notice all that detail made every scene look too real "

 

This make it sucks?

maybe read more than the first sentence? come on dude...

 

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I found it so easy to tell that these were actors in a studio in front of a green screen, I could see which parts of the scene were real and which parts were CGI. The actors all looked like they were actors wearing costumes, as opposed to actual believable characters.

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Just now, WoodenMarker said:

It breaks the illusion. 'Too real' might not be the correct description--maybe uncanny or distracting. 

I don't think so, maybe it just the "movie" that sucks

 

Thor ragnarok even looks cartonny on 720p screen, let alone 4k screen.

 

Point is, the movie sucks rather than the screen. Period.

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The only problem with 4k movies is they're still like 8 pixels tall and 500000000000000000000000000000000 wide. This super wide shit needs to stop and settle, it's freaking ridiculous how many aspect ratios there are for movies, and almost none of them are ever 16:9  

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If look for something with less CGI. I watch The Gran Tour on Amazon. It's 4K, and it looks amazing. I've seen the occasional movie on 4K, but it's all been streaming. I don't have a 4K player yet.

 

I like 4K in things that aren't as CGI heavy. I think it gives more justice to the look. Some movies, like marvel, are very CGI looking even at 1080.

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6 minutes ago, Ryujin2003 said:

If look for something with less CGI. I watch The Gran Tour on Amazon. It's 4K, and it looks amazing. I've seen the occasional movie on 4K, but it's all been streaming. I don't have a 4K player yet.

 

I like 4K in things that aren't as CGI heavy. I think it gives more justice to the look. Some movies, like marvel, are very CGI looking even at 1080.

Grand Tour in 4k is phenomenal! I even think it adds some more fluidity even though it's probably both 24fps. 

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25 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

It breaks the illusion. 'Too real' might not be the correct description--maybe uncanny or distracting. 

Breaking the illusion is what I meant, it's supposed to be a super natural film, I'm supposed to believe these are real people but it seemed far too easy to tell they were actors in front of a green screen. I'd have to watch a DVD version to compare, maybe a more realistic film with less CGI would be better

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2 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

Grand Tour in 4k is phenomenal! I even think it adds some more fluidity even though it's probably both 24fps. 

Amazon also has a formula 1 series today is amazing and is also in 4K.

 

I think Gran Tour is 60FPS. I know they or a lot of production into it. They have a NatGeo crew for filming (it at least did for season 1).

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That's not 4k at fault. That's the filming and effects of the film, and your (our) "trained" visual and cultural acceptance.

 

No one watching anime in 4k says it looks "too real", because the eyes/brain are trained to accept it as a "cartoon". Watching a nature documentary in 4k is great (though mainly the colour+HDR+ slight detail, good 1080p is very close).

 

Watching a Action/Super Hero movie with the CGI sent to the lowest bidder (Disney stopped doing in house stuff :( and the good studios went bankrupt!)? Looks naff at 4k!

 

If you want a fix, try a smoothing/noise filter or something to soften the image. Lol. :D

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2 minutes ago, TechyBen said:

That's not 4k at fault. That's the filming and effects of the film, and your (our) "trained" visual and cultural acceptance.

 

No one watching anime in 4k says it looks "too real", because the eyes/brain are trained to accept it as a "cartoon". Watching a nature documentary in 4k is great (though mainly the colour+HDR+ slight detail, good 1080p is very close).

 

Watching a Action/Super Hero movie with the CGI sent to the lowest bidder (Disney stopped doing in house stuff :( and the good studios went bankrupt!)? Looks naff at 4k!

 

If you want a fix, try a smoothing/noise filter or something to soften the image. Lol. :D

Yeah I think that's the problem, I'd be interested to see the DVD version of the film. The thought of adjusting TV settings to make the image look worse on purpose is just crazy!

I'll definitely check out some non CGI content though.  

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Well... yeah, I always felt that way looking at the 4k TVs with auto "upscale" from SD... yes, SD, not even HD. It looked like someone smeared Vaseline on the screen then ran the Photoshop bubble/median filters! :D

 

But it generally depends on the original content format. I'm just thankful I no longer have to worry about -scanlines- !

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You’ll get used to it. People said the same thing about HD and FHD

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10 hours ago, Blebekblebek said:

I don't think so, maybe it just the "movie" that sucks

 

Thor ragnarok even looks cartonny on 720p screen, let alone 4k screen.

 

Point is, the movie sucks rather than the screen. Period.

Wow, you busted the guys balls just so you could say Thor sucked? What a jerk.

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Keep in mind that if you saw the movie in a decent theatre with newer equipment? You probably already watched it in 4K.

 

No, there's no inherent problem with 4K content or movies. The problem is only when the studio cheaps out on the production budget and/or visual effects budget. When the set design and visual effects aren't up to snuff, 4K makes it easier to detect those flaws.

 

But on the other hand, when 4K content has the proper quality sets and visual effects to back it up? Oh damn - it looks kickass.

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movies are not about 4k or CGI but a good story, but i'm old fashioned.

4k, 3d, etc are all selling points/gimmicks to get people to see crap.

4k only makes sense if you have a big tv, apart from it's just marketing selling products most people don't even need.

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